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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:09 [#00511500]
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Hehe... just kidding ;-) I also bought this album today (yes... an expensive day for me today :-s... but this store was giving a way a free exclusive cd-single with every purchase... and i really wanted that, so i had to buy something, and confield was the only interesting thing i could find. :-) So that makes it okay :-p)
I had sort of anticipated hating it on first listen... and on the way home in the train, i had already decided i would make a topic about it called "confield... what were they thinking?!?" Lol...
Hm... but now i wonder what all the fuss was about? Everyone saying it's so extreme and inaccesable? I listened to it one time this evening, and instantly liked it. The rhythms are very complicated... i'll give it that. Sometimes it seems almost random... but the melodies sound very clear to my ears. And that made it rather enjoyable already this first time :-) (i find LP5 much harder to get into for instance).
Also i have to disagree with everyone who has said that it sounds cold. I feel the exact opposite... it made me feel very warm and safe... The sounds really seemed to wrap themselves around me. I felt like an unborn baby, cozy in his womb or something :-)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-12 13:11 [#00511501]
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what was the cd-single?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:12 [#00511503]
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well it's a dutch artist called Spinvis. But it also has dutch vocals... so i really doubt anyone outside of holland will have heard of him :-)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-12 13:15 [#00511505]
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I speak fluent Dutch... :)
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uzim
on 2003-01-12 13:16 [#00511506]
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i agree. :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-12 13:17 [#00511508]
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i also agree that spookly luke speaks fluent dutch
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 13:18 [#00511509]
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cfern and pen expers were the only tracks I liked instantly. The rest took longer to click.
I still don't like eidetic casein. The sound wobbles and warbles in a way that makes me nauseous - it's like being forced to ride a bus through the worst hangover ever, over a bad bumpy road through a district of mutants and industrial parks.
Hmmm, now I wanna go listen to it again!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:18 [#00511510]
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Ohja? Dat wist ik niet :-) Dan moet je de cd van Spinvis ook maar eens kopen! :-p Briljante muziek! En die single was een speciale promosingle van het nummer "bagagedrager" met een heel nieuw nummer als b-kant!! :-)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-01-12 13:19 [#00511514]
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I like CONFIELD......nuff said !
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-01-12 13:20 [#00511517]
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I agree on this agreement.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 13:20 [#00511518]
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Heh heh. He's talking crazy talk.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 13:21 [#00511519]
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Hey, Spinvis is completely overrated... I just don't think it's funny..
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:22 [#00511523]
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It's nice to see to the board in such a state of agreement for a change :-p
I really don't know any songtitles yet...eidetic casein? I'll have to listen to it again to see what you mean. I remember the 3rd and the 4th track especially were giving me goosebumps all over!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 13:24 [#00511526]
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Haha, that's cfern and pen expers. To this day I still think they're the two catchiest tracks on Confield.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 13:25 [#00511529]
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O wait, fuckit, that's pen expers and sim gishel. Another theory bites the dust.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:25 [#00511530]
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You sir, are wrong! Wrong wrong wrong wrong.
he ;-)
Well i guess everyone is entitled to his opinion. But let me just assure you that Spinvis is not intended to be funny! It's very serious and beautiful music. It gives me all sorts of emotions... but has never made me laugh.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-12 13:26 [#00511531]
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Confield is the best IDM album ever, and I'm willing to bet Draft Whatever won't top it...
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 13:26 [#00511533]
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But Spinvis did come in second or third in VPRO's 'luisteraars top 100'.... right after QOTSA....
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 13:27 [#00511536]
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So I guess i AM wrong.......sorry!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:29 [#00511537]
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lol ;-) Maybe i'm mistaken? But i'm quite sure it was the 3rd and 4th track...
I'll doublecheck later tonight :-p Maybe your theory still has a chance?
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-12 13:29 [#00511538]
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jah :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:35 [#00511547]
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"But Spinvis did come in second or third in VPRO's 'luisteraars top 100'.... right after QOTSA...."
ha! I didn't know that yet. But i'm not surprised. It got raving reviews all over the place... and everyone seems to love it.
Still it's nice to know :-) Thanks! I'm sure Spinvis himself will be happy about all the recognition.
"Confield is the best IDM album ever, and I'm willing to bet Draft Whatever won't top it... "
Best idm-album ever eh? Hm... well it's a little too soon for me to make such judgements about it. But i did really like it :-)
And i think it's wise of you to have such expectations for the next album... if you were expecting it to be even better, you would have probably been dissapointed. And now you won't be... and maybe the new album will even take you by surprise and prove to be better after all :-p (*has alot of confidence in ae*)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 13:35 [#00511549]
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cfern is the second track with a real swingin' 6/4 rhythm.
pen expers is the third track. It has a hip-hoppity beat and some valiant organ notes that try to come in partway through the track and get beaten down by the percussion.
sim gishel is the fourth track. It has a melody best described as "indeterminate". If you listen to it on good headphones it sounds like little carbonated explosions are going off in your spine.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:36 [#00511552]
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hehe... if you drop the -h, you'll atleast speak one word of dutch fluently ;-)
ja!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-12 13:38 [#00511556]
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YES! SURROUNDED! I LOVE YOU!!
not on the Spinvis thing, as I don't like his stuff, no I mean-
at last someone else who doesn't think Confield is cold!!
we will rule the earth one day.. :P
and that gobbledygook that surrounded wrote, wasn't dutch at all. he's making it up as he goes along.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:41 [#00511561]
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"If you listen to it on good headphones it sounds like little carbonated explosions are going off in your spine."
lol, sounds like i should avoid headphones for that one! :-p
I've printed that little post of yours, when i listen to confield again later this night, i'll see if i agree with you on those descriptions.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-01-12 13:43 [#00511567]
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surrounded, the melody in cfern seems to be a continuity to the one in VI scose doesnt it....i also recommend you check out the meanings of the titles ;)
good purchase sir!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:47 [#00511576]
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"and that gobbledygook that surrounded wrote, wasn't dutch at all. he's making it up as he goes along. "
Hey i never said that was dutch! I guess you just proved you're a lying evil bastard :-)
Dat was écht wel nederlands... Hoor!
But it's okay, i love you too buddy ;-)
Yeah really... it amazes me how anyone could think of confield as cold? Other ae-albums do sound cold to me (esp. tri repetae)... but confield absolutely not.
But you don't like Spinvis?! tsk tsk...
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 13:48 [#00511580]
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No it wasn't dutch..... it was just a proposal for a very, VERY long new Autechre track title........ wasn't it???
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:51 [#00511585]
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"i also recommend you check out the meanings of the titles ;)"
And where might i find those?
VI scose is the first track right? I remember that... and if i combine that with what jeebus... fleetmouse said... i take it you're saying the first and the 2nd track sort of have the same melody? Interesting! :-) I'll have to pay attention to that.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 13:56 [#00511595]
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*adressing the rest of the board* "look into my eyes people... look into george's friendly trustworthy eyes :-) Who are you going to believe? Qrter? Who is his avatar looks like he's stoned and drunk... or polynomial-c? Who looks like satan himself? :-p Just trust george, i was definitly speaking dutch there"
Now THAT would be interesting! Autechre with dutch songtitles :-D
I think sonic youth already once made an EP that had dutch songtitles... hehe... one of the tracks was called "slaapkamers met slagroom" (bedrooms with whipped cream). It'd be awesome if autechre did that!
Us dutchies could charge the rest of the board huge sums of money to translate the titles for them! ;-)
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 13:58 [#00511598]
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Hey, in one of the Ventolin remixes you hear a dutch kid counting from 1 to 13... So even RDJ loves us Dutchies...
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-12 14:32 [#00511666]
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will provide...ja
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-12 14:45 [#00511681]
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OR DOES OHE?!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-12 14:49 [#00511687]
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Confield is quite good. (understatement) i think it's too organic to sound cold
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-12 14:52 [#00511691]
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Hey...they could be counting in afrikaans...u never know...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-12 14:55 [#00511693]
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actually, it sounds like a Belgian accent.
although it is Dutch.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-12 14:57 [#00511695]
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qrter > i guess you have been playing the Ventolin remixes for the last hour, haven't you?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-12 15:01 [#00511701]
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nah. but its kind of hard to miss.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 17:26 [#00511798]
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"cfern is the second track with a real swingin' 6/4 rhythm."
Actually i'll admit right away that i have no musical knowledge whatsoever, so i have no idea what a 6/4 rhythm is. But I know what i hear, and it sounds great! The rhythm is swinging... but i think it also sounds sort of... tired? Like the song is dragging itself forward... one exhausted step at a time. It's just the way those drums sound a little sloppy... sometimes they come in a little too soon or a little too late (which i love... it gives the track it's character!)... but i think that is why i feel it as sort of tired :-) The little melody in there is wonderful!
"pen expers is the third track. It has a hip-hoppity beat and some valiant organ notes that try to come in partway through the track and get beaten down by the percussion."
Well i almost agree with you there :-) I hear exactly what you hear... except i wouldn't say the organ part gets "beaten down" by the percussion? At first they sound very weak, and indeed are mostly obscured by the percussion. But the organ-melody becomes clearer and more upfront all the time! If anyone's beating anyone... i'd say that organ is giving the percussion a rough time ;-) No but seriously... it sounds very optimistic and victorious to me. That melody just won't be pushed away, and through all the chaos becomes louder and louder! Beautiful! Even though this song somehow also reminds me of a sad funeral march... damn... this music is unlike anything i've ever heard! So much associations, all at the same time... i love it! :-)
But as it turns out, these two were actually the ones that had been giving me goosebumps. Not to say that the other tracks don't do anything for me. But these two in particular stood out to me on the first listen :-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-12 17:28 [#00511799]
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"Hey, in one of the Ventolin remixes you hear a dutch kid counting from 1 to 13..."
really? Well... That's interesting :-) I haven't heard those remixes, so i didn't know.
But we probably shouldn't feel too special just yet ;-) In windowlicker he used some woman saying something about biting her dog in french :-p
I think he just enjoys weird stuff that he can't understand.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 19:19 [#00511881]
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cfern is so cool... the more you listen to it the more the "off" beats make sense.
I get the feeling they had two rhythms, one at the beginning and one at the end, and somehow let a piece of software create a gradient between them so the beat morphs. At one point in the song it swerves back and forth like it could go either way. Wicked.
I wonder if that's something they did with that Kyma setup they are reputed to have used.
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nacmat
on 2003-01-12 19:37 [#00511889]
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confield is warm...who said its cold?
m r a warm a r m
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nacmat
on 2003-01-12 19:38 [#00511890]
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as ophecks said
"Confield is the best IDM album ever"
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-12 21:28 [#00511931]
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hey, I used to dislike Confield, then I thought it was cold, but still the best IDM album ever, and about two weeks ago I realized it's all wrong. Now I just think it's insanely great, and not cold. Just inhuman.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-12 21:49 [#00511941]
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Cfern is one of those rare Autechre tracks with some real SWING and some ZING. Definitely a first rate ass shaker. I love it when the beats kind of speed up out of control and then catch themselves and get back in time.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-12 22:02 [#00511950]
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I could stand a whole album of that action.
:: crosses fingers ::
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-12 22:26 [#00511964]
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damn Fleetmo and your avatars you make me gasp with excitement each time Roy rules totally
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-12 23:05 [#00512000]
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yeah I never got the fuss about Confield's alleged inaccessibility..I loved it from the word go and still do...but then again EP7 had amply prepared me for it as well...
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AE_King
from Australia on 2003-01-12 23:33 [#00512029]
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pfft...I hate Confield with a passion, although I haven't heard it for 3 months or so...maybe like so many of you here I'll like it when I hear it again, lol
Next release better be like Incunabula :D
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