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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:10 [#00495854]
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1. If you are psycho and you take drugs, the drugs will only bring out your fucked up tendencies. So dont blame drugs because they made you go psycho. You were psycho to begin with.
2. Shrooms are not party drugs. The are mainly for spiritual purposes only. Any and all questions can potentially be answered during the shroom 'peak'
3. If you smoke weed once, chances are it will not do anything to you. Try smoking more.
4. Weed will not make you lazy. YOU are lazy, deal with it or change.
5. Weed makes you paranoid because its illegal. Smoke somewhere far away from the 'law'.
6. Alcahol has killed more people than coke, heroin, X, and crack - combined!
No one has ever died from marijuana. So remember that the next time you go drinking.
Thats your lesson for today. Toodles!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:12 [#00495855]
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Sorry about the misleading title. This is thread is more about drugs in general. Now all I have to do is sit back and wait for replies on how 'dumb' this thread is. Cant wait for my own death :|
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 20:16 [#00495859]
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sorry, but you're a fucking moron
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:16 [#00495860]
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completely agree with you the word needs to be let out.
but they are not for everyone, for some cannot handle the awesome powers of shrooms
they will go on thru their life, living dull, meaningless lives, never wondering what the possibilities are
conservation
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:18 [#00495862]
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i hate ppl like earthleakage if you don't haev ne thing good to say, dont say ne thing
else do it in a respectable fashion your disagreements? etc
i do shrooms occasionally, and am grateful for them
i smoke quite often (weed only)
and drink every now and then
just because they are tagged 'illigal' doesn't mean they will take over your lives.
if drugs take you over, that is your fault.
like weatherd said, YOU are lazy.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:19 [#00495865]
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And your a bigger moron for proving me right. Fuckface.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:21 [#00495867]
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why? i certainly have _my_ life together.
no complaints on life here
bring tomorrow on!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 20:29 [#00495872]
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ok man
i like you ive talked to you on slsk i like you
BUT what i meant to say was your post was fucking moronic
you see.....
drugs are like being on a plane, time change... you gain, you lose...
but some time you gotta get off, because the plane's crashing and if you leave it to late you're gonna be on it when it does
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 20:39 [#00495880]
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1. other way around - psychos are FAR more likely to take drugs hence the certainties with psychosis
2. shrooms are for fuckheads who have nothing better to do - if you do them then reap the consequences and don't fucking blame it on anyone else but yourself
3. encouraging people to smoke weed is realy dumb in anyone's books
4. weed encourages lethargism mentally, this is obvious im not even going to argue with this, its obvious to all smokers
5. weed makes you paranoid not becasue its illegal but because of itd psychoactuve properties so don't blame it on something else, please
6. true - alchohol releated deaths are far greater than every other drugs combined because its far more readily available, obviously. no-one has ever dies from marajuana? oh come on, thats like saying that no-one has ever dies from smoking and plenty of deaths have been contributed towards heroin and crack ODs
Thats your lesson for today. Toodles!
duh
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:39 [#00495881]
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Thats for hardcore stuff like crack, coke, heroin and X. Its true for those. But i've known people who have been smoking weed for over 30 years and they are fine.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:42 [#00495884]
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I'm not encouraging anyone to smoke. If you are going to try weed, dont smoke once. You will NOT get high if you take 1 or 2 hits. People say "Oh i smoked weed once and it didn't do anything" I had to smoke 3 days in a row to finally get "high".
No one has died from weed, please try to prove me otherwise. Yes people have died from smoking cigs, but that doesn't say anything about weed does it?
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Gubb
on 2002-12-30 20:43 [#00495886]
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you are an idiot.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:44 [#00495887]
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Every person I've ever smoked with has said the same thing - they're paranoid because they dont want to get caught. There is no reason to be paranoid if weed was legal. I've smoked hundreds of times in safe places and not once did I get the paranoid feeling.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 20:46 [#00495888]
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"1. other way around - psychos are FAR more likely to take drugs hence the certainties with psychosis "
That is not true.
"2. shrooms are for fuckheads who have nothing better to do -
if you do them then reap the consequences and don't fucking
blame it on anyone else but yourself "
Wow! For starters, yes people do take shrooms because they have nothing else to do. But is that statement true for 100% of the people? NO.
And yes if you do take it, be prepared for what lies ahead. I've shroomed about 3 times and I'm fine. So now what? Am I a fuckhead for finding spirituality?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 20:52 [#00495892]
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well done, thanks for your input, now go back to the playground and stick to playing conkers with your mates
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:12 [#00495909]
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weed does make you paranoid.
go smoke, chill in a dark room by yourself, watch a movie, etc. you get the idea.
sitting in your house alone isn't going to make you worry about the law.
however, i can honestly say that drugs have really given me a better perspective on life and what I need to do to meet my goals.
i look at many people now,and wonder if they are blind? they really are just following paths and not creating their own goals or lifestyles.
ive shroomed 5 times over the past 2years or so, lil more.
i dig exerting myself away from reality now and then.
i learn a lot about myself, and others.
i used to be a very shy kid growing up, and i rolled every now and then (safely, 5htp, tested pills, etc, didnt go to raves or shit like that) and i think it has really helped me. i can speak my feelings a lot better, and don't bottle things up inside.
this plays a large role in my life now, being able to say things.
but you can't say that drugs helped you with a problem, no no, drugs only _cause_ problems, right?
im only 19, so what do i really have to say? im only a comp. engineering student, already with a career job in network engineering, bankin some big ass $$$$ and working with multi million dollar equipment on a daily basis.
shit
must be the pot.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:15 [#00495914]
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although i can't say that
because one thing that really does bother me when in drug conversations/debates is when ppl start breaking out the:
"oh this guy i know is a 4.0 student blah blah enigneer and he smokes on a dialy basis"
i hear that far too often and disagree with that argument, it doesn't hold water and isn't a valid point that should be used widely.
but it can be used to show how pot doesn't nec. make you lazy....
a hard working individual will get to his goals no matter what, if he truely wants to meet them
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 21:22 [#00495928]
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you hate me becuase i speak the truth and you will realise this soon enough
drugs wil impair you of your goals, there's no doubt
i don't want to seem a kiljoy, but its a stage, you do what you wanna do for whatever reason, that's cool, but you've got to realise its not gonna last forever, just like anything else
make the most of it while it lasts, get whatever you want out of it, but there's always going to be a finality about everything whether be it drugs, relationships, jobs, life , whatever
understand that and you're on your way
:)
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xeno
on 2002-12-30 21:23 [#00495929]
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its whore.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:26 [#00495933]
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earth, i agree with that.
it's my young years
i'm not saying i'm going to smoke the rest of my life, or party as hard as i do.
i realize that someday i will settle down with a family,and all that will be over with.
this is like a "mid-life crisis" for kids, but some ppl take that too far and can really screw up their lives.
i don't hate you, i have no reason to hate someone for looking after me on the topic.
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2002-12-30 21:26 [#00495934]
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doesn't smoking damage your lungs violently, no matter what you smoke? God bless the Weed though...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:28 [#00495937]
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yes most definetely
glad i don't smoke ciggies :/
a lot of my friends try and quit but nope doesn't happen :(
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xeno
on 2002-12-30 21:33 [#00495944]
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alcohol is one of the worst drugs there is. i talked to guys who told me quitting heroin and coke was easy compared to booze.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 21:35 [#00495948]
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worse in what way?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:39 [#00495954]
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i had never danced my entire life until i rolled. dancing is very important to me, and i have mdma to thank. i don't use it any more because that sort of ecstasy doesn't quite deliver the goods, but the revelation it brought me is priceless.
earthleakage you should chill on the ignorance and righteousness... maybe drugs are just not for you? ever consider that your experience doesn't explain everyone else in this world?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-30 21:52 [#00495964]
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you've missed the point.
ive been there, done that. and please don't judge me by calling me ignorant and righteous.
because i only post to serve and educate becasue i have no other reason to push my method of madness on anyone else.
you either take my advice or leave it.
i've done pleanty of drugs, i suspect more than you've have hot dinners (as the saying goes). i'm not gonna hammer it down your throat about the bullshit about ecstacy or whatever (although i'd be especially careful about that one), i just want to promote self awareness where its needed, and to me it sure is needed in this context
what offends me is people who somoke weed or pop pills knocking pissheads and chain smokers clearly without realising that the REAL reasons that alchohol & nicotine are legal and that other drugs are not. i'm not goning to patronise you either because believe it or not i used to be 19 so i can think like a 19 year old if needs be - i have your concerns im not knocking you in any way.
sorry if you think this but its late i have to go, so if you want to continue this converstaion (for your own benefit) then bring it up tomorrow or the next day and i'll happily give my... ahem... advice.
all the best, happy new year,
pete. x.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2002-12-30 21:56 [#00495965]
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good day, sar.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-30 22:02 [#00495968]
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wait a minute? What ARE the 'real' reasons marijuana is illegal? Are you saying that Pissheads and chain smokers are better than other people who use drugs?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-30 22:11 [#00495972]
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g'night earth.
you can read this tomorrow if you see it.
about the ignorance, there are a few things that make me think you are being a wee bit. i'd like to know what the "real reasons" are that marijuana is illegal, but alcohol is not. maybe you've never seen alcohol aid in the destruction of somebody's life? i've seen both alcohol and marijuana use involved in sad stories (more so with alcohol) but i don't blame the drugs. it's the people. other wise i'd be in the same rut, cause i smoke the cannabis, and have a beer or wine on occasion.
"shrooms are for fuckheads who have nothing better to do." need i say anything? you know that all mushroom users are of this type? didn't you know that the mazatecs of mexico have a religious use for psilocybes? did you know that people in "developed" cultures use mushrooms for religious purposes?
i could go on about all the things you said in a similar fashion. an extremely accurate analogy which i've brought up is fire. you know all about the burn victims and maybe were burned yourself so you preach "fire is bad, there is no such thing as safe use of fire." you claim heavy drug use. is it possible that you can't see past your own problems that manifested as irresponsible/uneducated drug use?
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2002-12-30 22:11 [#00495974]
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hey my dad used to have interesting relationship w/alcohol: he got about 8 (eight) bottles of beer every evening, not to mention his day take, and still he wasn't an alcoholic. That means, when mom told him like "we're going on a vacation, so could you please drink not this much", he stopped for half a year. TOTALLY. And not suffering at all! He was relieved, saying he's happy without the stuff, but his life being so miserable he doesn't want to keep himself dry.
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Gubb
on 2002-12-31 07:17 [#00496404]
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i had begun to write som stuff arguing with you but then i rememberd its no use since you are an idiot, earthleakage.
i wish you an very unhappy new year. i hope it will be your worst and last.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-31 07:24 [#00496411]
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Dobbin's got more brains than the lot of you, I agree with everything he says (apart from the mushrooms) and the rest of you kids need to shut the fuck up.
Especially you Gubb, you fucking waste of space
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-31 07:30 [#00496420]
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Gubb, you ARE an ass sometimes. Wishing him a very unhappy new year because he disagrees with you? Wishing he were dead because of it? You sound like a GOP card-carrying Republican you fuckwit...
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-31 07:37 [#00496431]
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well it will be his last NEW year then..... we're always being told to recycle old stuff.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-12-31 07:54 [#00496457]
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i had begun to write som stuff arguing with you but then i
rememberd its no use since you are an idiot, earthleakage.
i wish you an very unhappy new year. i hope it will be your worst and last.
well, that speeks for itself. i was not aware of such fuckers 'round here. it usually is a more friendly place.
go somewhere else.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-31 07:56 [#00496462]
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first time i smoked weed i thought my head would explode really, and i felt as i was 2 persons
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-31 07:57 [#00496466]
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Things you should know about natures drugs....
turns people into machoistic monsters, as we've just found out.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-12-31 08:00 [#00496468]
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i quit taking drugs since they don't give me anything, i can easily do without the 'high' feeling. i didnt take the harder stuff, though.
but i smoked weed a lot, and from what i can say, it simply is not necessary. +i just post my opinion as everybody else does, ok
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-12-31 08:03 [#00496474]
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that's very true, at least for some
bunch of some smart asses
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Gubb
on 2002-12-31 08:20 [#00496488]
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my post is not that much worse then stuff that earthy has said to me in the past, but no one reacted then, so you can go and fuck yourselfs Jarworski, marlowe and Cheffe1979.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-31 08:28 [#00496495]
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i agrree with both sides herre. i don't know ALOT about drrugs but i think its all down to the perrson.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-31 08:36 [#00496498]
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I thought you were above such cheapness, Gubb
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-31 09:29 [#00496516]
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WTF Gubb?!@
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-31 09:30 [#00496517]
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I'm a bit confused Jar. You said you agree with dobbin, but dobbin hasn't posted in this thread (unless he has a different name :\ )
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-31 09:31 [#00496518]
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drugs doesn't turn people into masochistic monsters, they are that way to begin with :P
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2002-12-31 09:57 [#00496543]
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most has been said, but heres my shit and my experience: 1. you are what us is, (lazy, or para) 2. weed lets you show more of your unconscouis and can make you more extreme (which i think is not bad, if u think of it as a accelarator in finding out who you really are. but sadly most people dont want to see and keep up with bad habits. the prblem these people have with weed then is that they also can influence their moods instead of making a change.
3. weed is not harmless 4. alc and pills arent either 5. weed is far less bad for lunges than cig i agree that weed should be legal, mainly because i like it and everyone should have the possibility to check for himself without a.the fun or b.the paras
of doing forbidden shit.
to shrooms, most people i know that did em werent good examples...
i wished i had a priest like in mexico, to guide my journey and then i would eventuall do em...
take what u want and take care, but make up your mind why.. peace
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-31 09:58 [#00496545]
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dobbin is earthleakage stoney :)
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-31 10:42 [#00496593]
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I'll have to agree with earthleakage\jarworski here. i have to admit that i dont or have never taken drugs but from my own experience, i think they would just fuck life up more than help. its also a waste of $, if drugs do help you, they only help for a short period and not forever, so your constantly spending $ to feel better. anyways thats my opinion, im not trying to get any of you to stop or anything because whatever helps you, your able to do anything you want so whatever, its up to you guys. most people when theyre older get so fucked up and regretful after doing them so I just want that kind of life at all, i think i'll steer clear of drugs.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-12-31 15:04 [#00496719]
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It depends on what you'ved lived through, and where you live right now. If you we're in my shoes you'd be smoking 10 joints a day. Fortunately I'm in control more than most people, I actually quit smoking for the past 10 days, it was VERY easy but I plan on sparking a J for new years tonight.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-31 15:34 [#00496731]
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people who've never taken drugs have no idea ;) they think it will be this or that, little do they know it's nothing they can have a real opinion on until after they've experienced it.
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