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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-11 17:07 [#00478004]
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i guess there's something wrong with me, but i dont find any of those stuff addictive
i can easilly quit any of that
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-11 17:08 [#00478005]
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hummm......i suppose i'll weigh in my opinion since opinions were solicited.
i not comfortable calling anyone a LOSER i don't personally know or have dealings with, however DRUGS and the ABUSE and RELIANCE on any KIND of DRUG (yes that includes the BIG legal one ALCOHOL) can in NO WAY be seen as GOOD FOR YOU.
it's a crutch IMO and something that i never have need of, now or ever. i don't need drugs to enjoy music, art, or the company of people. i enjoy being AWARE of my surroundings, and whats going on in the world.
i do enjoy fine wine, especially with a nice meal it can really add lovely flavours, and i occasionally imbibe socially. i've never had a problem controlling my intake, and being around drunks, in a WORD is a DRAG!
my .02 cents
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-12-11 20:57 [#00478220]
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hmmmmm...
well lets see, I use my fair share of drugs, and I'm DEFINETLY not a loser...
so no
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-12-11 21:10 [#00478224]
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I just think the only "losers" are people who are so quick to label whole massive groups of people based on whether the get drunk or take drugs or sumn.
It's like "omg youve smoked weed once in your life I will no associate with you"
that's the olnly real wack behaviour in my opinion.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-12-11 21:13 [#00478226]
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exactly, people like that are complete assholes, it's the same thing as not liking someone because of the color of their skin or what religion they follow... very sad and ignorant way to live your live
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-12-11 21:18 [#00478231]
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well said.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-12-11 21:22 [#00478234]
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agreed
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:12 [#00478304]
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i cope with life just fine. do you mean only recreational drugs? what about prescription drugs that are worse than recreational drugs, but necessary for some condition? i doubt you'd argue that. how about ceremonial drugs? are the peruvian natives all losers? the entire culture?! or the native columbians who live in high altitude. the men chew coca all day long, ever day of their life. been going on since the dawn of time as far as they're concerned. you should really try to consider that there are exceptions to most rules, especially asshole biased ones like" drugs are for weak losers who can't cope with life."
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-11 23:12 [#00478305]
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Your only a loser if you DIE! muhahahha
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:20 [#00478310]
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right on od_step_cloack, corngrower and jupitah.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:21 [#00478311]
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got me salvia divinorum plant in the mail today. it doesn't take kindly to repotting so i had to put it in a 16 inch pot for it to fully grow, but the plant is only two inches above the soil. it's funny if you could see it.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:24 [#00478312]
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cool. i've heard good things about that plant.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:31 [#00478315]
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yes, very special plant. the dea is pushing to schedule this harmless, ancient medicine. they're to get congress to pass something that will allow them to schedule without doing all the testing and proving it's harm. what's with all the us government abuse lately? bush gets complete power to call war, homeland security bill allows pretty much unlimited access to emails and personal files. and this plant may not matter to many people, but it's an endagered species and sacred to many, and the dea is going to illegalize it on the basis that they say it is bad.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-11 23:32 [#00478317]
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makes me cringe.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-12-12 00:14 [#00478334]
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ive done way to many drugs a couple of years ago...mostly shrooms and pot. And now i can't remember things that happended a week ago. If anyone ever says that pot doesnt fry your brain, i will smack them down so hard...
I have also had several breakdowns because my past slowly came back to me, after being put away in a pot-swamp for years.
Do some adranalin-pumping sport instead....jump off a building....
For me it's offfcourse ok to get high once a year or so (maybe a couple more, depends on the situation). But the fact that i can't stop, fucking sucks.
It always feel like there's something missing, and the only thing you can think off is the smoke of the joint....
drugs ARE for losers....
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-12-12 00:35 [#00478337]
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Well I consider myself aliogut drug user.
couple of pills every few weeks and a bit of speed and a few cones on the weekend and abuot a 6 pack or two over the weekend. rarely two, mostly oly one on friday night.
havent dont any other drugs in aaages.
but it's not an event in itself, i do it coz it kind of adds a different angle on a night when youre doing somethign fun in itself.
i am the enhancement smoker from half baked
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-12-12 01:40 [#00478356]
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aliought = a light.
damn, plz excuse typos.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-12-12 02:07 [#00478361]
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'no way im poisoning my body with that shite
only fuckin chemicals.
no fuckin way.'
<- slams down bourbon and
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-12-12 02:52 [#00478376]
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many great music artist have done alot off drugs exe curt cobein and probebly many electronic artist and im sure aphex have done alot of drugs he must have and do you think they are lossers
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 02:54 [#00478379]
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Well, Cobain ended up dead so...
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-12-12 02:56 [#00478381]
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maybe he wanted to die
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C738
from Outer Space on 2002-12-12 02:58 [#00478382]
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Cobain used drugs in order to kill the pain of his stomach illness I heard.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 02:59 [#00478384]
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Maybe, but I don't think it helped him.
Drugs: Just Say No
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-12 03:00 [#00478385]
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Yeppers....
But yeah, tonns of cash and alot of time on your hands, these things happen.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 03:35 [#00478394]
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Yeah, you're right jonesy. Drugs are for mugs.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 03:38 [#00478395]
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I sometimes wonder if that Grange Hill did any good at all.
Poor Zammo.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 03:45 [#00478399]
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. "Here comes a fella named Vanilla Ice!" (sucking) "Here comes M.C. Hammer!" (sucking) "Here's Madonna, with two heads!" (sucking) Suckin' Satan's pecker, suck it! It's only your dignity, suck it! It's only your dignity, suck it! M.C. Hammer - oh, I'm sorry, it's 'Hammer', he dropped the M.C. I can't wait till he drops the Hammer too. How about this, drop it all. Good.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 03:46 [#00478400]
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See, I think drugs have done some good things for us, I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor, go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know what, the musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years... rrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs. Man, the Beatles were so high, they let Ringo sing a couple of tunes. Tell me they weren't partying. (singing) "We all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine." We all live in a-do you know how fucking high they were when they wrote that? They had to pull Ringo off the ceiling with a rake to sing that fucking song. (Beatle voices) John, get Ringo, he's in the corner. Ooh, look at him scoot, grab him! Hook his bellbottom, hook his bellbottom! He's got a song he wants to sing us. Something about living in a yellow tambourine or something. Ringo, Yoko's gone, come down, we can party again! They were real high, they wrote great music, drugs did have a positive effect.
Okay, I'll tell you what else. I'm gonna extend the theory to our generation, now, so it's more plicable. The musicians today, who don't do drugs, and in fact speak out against it-"We're rockers against drugs"-boy, they suck. Suck. Ball-less, soul-less, spirit-less, corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-12-12 03:58 [#00478406]
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The world of music, art, litterature etc.. would be considerably more borring if it weren't for drugs.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 04:16 [#00478415]
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Bill Hicks (the real one) just spouted a load of stuff liberal lefties wanted to hear.
"Oh Bill, you're so right. Aren't we kerrrrrrrrrazy".
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 04:24 [#00478422]
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I'm not even going to rise to that (obviously) antagonistic statement jonesy.
Bill was one of the few people who spoke the truth all the time, regardless of who it offended. That is why he was ostracised by the media (letterman etc) and died relatively unknown.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 04:31 [#00478426]
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Bill Hicks is an overated cult figure for students and lefties.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 04:41 [#00478428]
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He may well be a cult figure for students and lefties but that doesn't neccessarily make him automatically shite does it? What exactly is it that you dislike so much about students and lefties? Did your further education experience disappoint you? Did some student steal your girlfriend/boyfriend? Did some lefty run off with your mum? You obviously have some issues that need dealing with.
Jonesy, I'm here for you if you want to talk.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 04:44 [#00478431]
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He's just such a cliche.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 04:48 [#00478433]
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could you elaborate on that rather peculiar statement?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-12 04:49 [#00478436]
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Maybe we should change the name of this topic in whether Bill Hicks (the real one) is a loser or not..
just a suggestion :)
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2002-12-12 04:52 [#00478438]
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keep your suggestions to yourself, you clog wearing twat.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 04:53 [#00478439]
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You're right. this isn't the place to discuss Mr Cliche.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-12 05:00 [#00478440]
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Nice.
I think Bill Hicks was funny, but he is overrated. I also disagree with some of the things he said regarding smoking etc.
People who quote his railing against religion always seem to neglect to mention (or not know...) that he reverted to being a baptist (the religion he was brough up in) in his final days before he coofed it.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-12 05:07 [#00478443]
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well i'm sure the real one was more friendly than this wannabe
:P
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 05:11 [#00478444]
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That's in the spirit of your idol
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-12 05:12 [#00478445]
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Pussy. When I die, as an unavowed atheist, I will not cave in. My last breath shall carry the words "Fuck you God, you're not real anyway...and you smell of poo".
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-12 05:17 [#00478447]
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maybe everyone who calls himself bill should be put in a billabong
or on the moon
including bill gates
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-12 05:18 [#00478448]
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just another suggestion..
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-12 05:26 [#00478451]
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Well, Henry Miller said he wasn't sure if there was a God, but if he ever met him he'd calmly walk up to him and spit in his face.
When asked in an interview what he would say to God if he met him when he died, Burt Reynolds said, "Boy, I've made some mistakes in my time, but you've made far worse ones."
Seems quite strange to call God "Boy", good way of becoming a tower of salt if you ask me ;)
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nacmat
on 2002-12-12 05:29 [#00478454]
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drugs are... who knows
I see the pain its causing in my family... but anyway I wont judge anybody
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-12 05:33 [#00478457]
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i only brought this up cos i'm having a bit of a renaissance period at the mo and are getting back into getting wrecked and staying up all night speaking gibberish and staying up all night. what fun. i love being branded a junkie and a loser.
it doesn't give me a purpose in life,but its better than working 9 to 5 for someone, in my opinion anyway.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-12 05:39 [#00478461]
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How do you fund such a habit?
Not having a go, just interested...
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-12 05:45 [#00478465]
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i have a job. and friends who all share their purchases to ensure that a good weekend is had by all.
when i say i am anti 9 - 5 i mean that i don't work for a massive company, i work for a mate who is into late nights and understands what i do too.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-12-12 05:49 [#00478468]
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Ah, cool. It can be quite tiring going out till 3am then starting work at 9.00. Not that I do it very often, but sometimes it ends up happening. I've always thought it'd be cool to work with/for a mate at yuor own company, but I'd be worried you'd fall out over it- Stop telling me what to do! But I'm your boss?! etc.
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