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do you everr think about just how powerrless you arre and just how powerrful the people in charrge arre? i get rreally mad and sometimes rreally deprressed that i have to sit back underr the laws of the countrry. i know we can't have no rrule BUT nowadays the law is too obtrrusive. what do you think? do u think it is time the goverrnments laid off a bit? (not that it will everr happen, and now with all this terrrrorrism...) |
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tear the club up thug personally when i'm dissatisfied i take action |
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please specify. |
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Agreed with Anus Prresley...too much inefficient, obtrusive, politically-charged government is causing all sorts of problems and solving none of them... :( |
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mm.. this is all much too abstract.. specify.. |
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I'm pretty much okay with authority as long as it keeps it's distance from me... Well if I had a gun I'd shoot every traffic cop I'd see on sight! I hate those guys more than everything in the whole world... Never been pulled over though. |
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i don't want to tear down the system. i'd rather tear down reality. |
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i wish that everryone was as brright as us lot and then maybe we wouldent need the system. |
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wish they'd stop educating us just so that we can go on a make money for our country... that sort of pisses me off. and if raising children is so important, and neccessary to capitalism, why dont parents raising children get paid respectively? my mum keeps talking about this, and i see her point |
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i wish that everryone was as brright as us lot and then maybe we wouldent need the system. not sure about that... first, are we all that bright here? i do and say very stupid things sometimes... besides, i have a constant lack of attention, and i'm lazy... if there wasn't any system, i don't think i would work _ and i think many people, despite their brightness maybe, wouldn't work anymore... would be a big mess... |
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i was humoring people. i wanted to say "as me" |
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some bright people don't really work either. a certain richard d. james, for example. and would they (the bright people) accept to do all the hard repetitive manual works? i may be numb, but without any organization, i highly doubt it would work... |
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like i say a countrry with no rule would be no good, but at the same time being bent overr and haveing bullshit nitty gritty rrules rrammed 10 inches up my arrse is no good eitherr |
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desguised as "forr ourr own good" |
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governments are evil like christianity, oppresors all of em. "harm none, do what thou wilt" should be standard policy for governments. some laws should be kept though, like traffic laws. |
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again, what is it exactly that irritates you..? only saying how evil your government is, doesn't make a very convincing argument. |
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i don't care, it's eveil i tell ye! if this was truly a free country prostitution and drugs would be legal. freedom no longer frees us, it's freedom with their exception, which to some is no freedom at all. |
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we are free to make money to pay taxes to line their pockets is what it boils down to. |
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fundamentally no different than a goddamn kingdom of the middle ages in europe, it's just more complex |
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I agree with uzims opening statement. Let's tear down reality. If only I knew how. |
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ok herre is a nitty-grritty example... at 16 in the Uk you can have sex, but not buy porrn. at 16 in the UK you arre not legally entitled to a minimum wage but if you worrk a cerrtain amount of hourrs still get taxed. |
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so? |
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so we're all gonna vote liberal democrats then........ |
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so therre arre too many laws, therre arre to many things set up to keep people on this perrfect line, no wonderr people go off the rails a little, they are so thin. its ok when you arrent that 16 yearr old who is shot out on the strreet trrying to worrk but who dosent have enough money to live on, that turrns to stealing. |
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middle ages + technology= modern times |
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You stupid ****s. You should be thankful you're born in a country and in a time where the standard of living is so high. If you were born even 100 years ago you'd think this was bloody paradise. Of course it's not perfect and probably never will be but remember you are one of the lucky ones. |
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i agree with what u said |
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i feel fortunate to live in the UK. but comparing now to 100 years ago is ridiculous. |
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well..you have to remember.. the people running things are bright..they wouldnt be in that position otherwise... err.. the president doesnt count... but its not an issue of intelligence.. more of intentions.. the people who pursue careers in politics and coporate business arent exactly doing it for the good of mankind... i'd say about 99.9% of them are in it for the power alone.. and in order to keep that power secure.. they have to keep you in line with more rules.. the majority of people accept these rules because they're convinced its for their own good.. most people are more than willing to give up a little freedom for more security and if you arent...well, you're out of luck i guess |
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i obey the rrules, but i don't like them |
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But in the UK the gap between richest and poorest is at its greatest since records began in the 19th century. |
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If you were born even 100 years ago you'd think this was bloody paradise. yeah, and if i were born in 1885 and would complain, you'd say that i'm a cunt because it was worse in 1785? -_- |
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still, we're very lucky compared to people in poor countries, with war, hunger, grievous diseases incurable because of lack of money, etc. i agree with that. (knowing that i'm more lucky than most other people doesn't make me happy in any way though. it'd just make me feel more sad for the other people. but i have difficulty to realize that... seeing famine, diseases, poverty, etc. every day on tv make some of us feel saturated, and desensibilized...) |
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Just live with the rules and try to bend them, use them in your advance where ever possible I'd say. Talking about porn... Porn on TV should be only shown deep in the night, while from 8 PM we can happily watch people shooting at eachother, on the news or just as a movie. |
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yeah... x-rated movies very deep in the night, horror movies in the dead of night... arf |
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to expound, i agree with your sentiment diablo, but i can realise i'm lucky and still complain. it's my right and duty as an american. you ass, it's the american way to point out things wrong with the system in search of a better way. or are you forgetting that's how the usa originated? |
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Yeah but it just pissed me off someone goin "yeah tear down the system" when theyre obviously benefitting from it. I dunno whatever. It just seemed kind of pathetic moaning about not being able to buy porn when theres people getting killed and stuff for political beliefs in other countries etc. |
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Ah, the duality of man. Whilst we hate the shackles of conformity and law and order, at the same time we crave the freedoms it gives us. Jonesy: Yes, in financial terms, but in actual quality of life they've never been closer. Even the "poor" can often afford cars, wine, holidays and general luxeries. It's just that richer people have a) ones of a better quality and b) more of them. Not saying that's right, just that the poor now are better of in terms of lifestyle than the rich even 200 years ago. More exotic foods available- bette rhealthcare, better travel etc. |
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ok, on these points i totally agree with you. people criticize the system, but are still taking profit from it... it's hypocritical. maybe some of them would only like to fix the absurdities in the system though, absurdities from which they don't take profit at all. and about much more grievous problems, priorities, solidarity and stuff... if we would stop producing weapons during a short time, or if we stopped buying perfume during one year, etc. the problem of world famine could be solved, as they say... but no one will ever do it. sad. =( |
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on the other hand... if these people don't really stand a chance to beat the system they're criticizing, there's no point in not taking profit of it, since it won't make the situation any "worse"... |
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"it's the american way to point out things wrong with the system in search of a better way. " i thought the american way was: i dont care as long as i get my car, my mcDonalds, mind numbing tv shows and lower those taxes for christ sake! :) anyone trying to disrupt anything of the above is to be classed as a terrorist and should be bombed. |
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i wonder how things could be different if some of us spent half the time rating computer tracks and tried their hands at 'governing'. -'poor people' do not have more now, we simply have a different rating system. -there are more poor people in the world, because there are too many people for each to support themselves -the geographic scale technology encompasses is at odds with humans' communal abilities -organized governments have an advantage in supplying necessities and more -we will become more and more a police state because society expects more and more from the government, and is more and more demoralised about the prospects of having 'a say'. - communism sounds nice, but doesn't work at large scales - democracy makes sence, but increasingly has problems at large scales - god sounds nice, but i'll never know for sure if you feel too controlled, try living somewhere else. you might not have your DSL hookup, or police protection when you are brutally mutilated, or your chance at lotto. but it will probably be there soon. now get back to work! |
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"Yeah but it just pissed me off someone goin "yeah tear down the system" when theyre obviously benefitting from it. I dunno whatever. It just seemed kind of pathetic moaning about not being able to buy porn when theres people getting killed and stuff for political beliefs in other countries etc." forr a starrt it was just a simple topic name. and secondly that porrn comment was a example that i pointed out was nitty grritty and childish just so i could show the contrradictions in the law. i can buy porrn if i want. |
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whoa! that was good. i'm scared. |
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and i can moan, i can moan all i want, its my human rright. i'm not happy that people die in otherr contrries, i am quite awarre but therre is always someone worrse off. you can't say to the one arrmed man that he can't be sad he has one arrm because theirr arre people with no arrms. |
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why arre you taking this attitude with me? what have done to you? |
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Sorry it came across so harsh. It was how I felt. Lets face it none of us has an answer. |
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Life is too damn good in the western world. We are so unbelievably spoiled. I love it when people in rich countries complain and moan, it's good for a laugh. Pray to God or whoever or whatever you believe in that you're not reincarnated as an Ethiopian or something. |
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i do. but also prrey to God you don't come back as a homeless perrson in the Uk |
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