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offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 13:25 [#00449687]
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do you everr think about just how powerrless you arre and
just how powerrful the people in charrge arre?

i get rreally mad and sometimes rreally deprressed that i
have to sit back underr the laws of the countrry. i know we
can't have no rrule BUT nowadays the law is too obtrrusive.


what do you think? do u think it is time the goverrnments
laid off a bit?

(not that it will everr happen, and now with all this
terrrrorrism...)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-20 13:25 [#00449689]
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tear the club up thug

personally when i'm dissatisfied i take action


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-20 13:27 [#00449691]
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please specify.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-11-20 13:28 [#00449692]
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Agreed with Anus Prresley...too much inefficient, obtrusive,
politically-charged government is causing all sorts of
problems and solving none of them...

:(


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-20 13:31 [#00449694]
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mm.. this is all much too abstract.. specify..


 

offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2002-11-20 13:35 [#00449695]
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I'm pretty much okay with authority as long as it keeps it's
distance from me... Well if I had a gun I'd shoot every
traffic cop I'd see on sight! I hate those guys more than
everything in the whole world... Never been pulled over
though.


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-20 13:50 [#00449702]
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i don't want to tear down the system.
i'd rather tear down reality.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 13:52 [#00449704]
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i wish that everryone was as brright as us lot and then
maybe we wouldent need the system.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-20 13:58 [#00449708]
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wish they'd stop educating us just so that we can go on a
make money for our country... that sort of pisses me off.

and if raising children is so important, and neccessary to
capitalism, why dont parents raising children get paid
respectively? my mum keeps talking about this, and i see her
point


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-20 14:05 [#00449711]
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i wish that everryone was as brright as us lot and then
maybe we wouldent need the system.


not sure about that...
first, are we all that bright here? i do and say very stupid
things sometimes... besides, i have a constant lack of
attention, and i'm lazy...
if there wasn't any system, i don't think i would work _ and
i think many people, despite their brightness maybe,
wouldn't work anymore... would be a big mess...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 14:08 [#00449713]
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i was humoring people. i wanted to say "as me"


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-20 14:08 [#00449714]
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some bright people don't really work either.
a certain richard d. james, for example.

and would they (the bright people) accept to do all the hard
repetitive manual works?
i may be numb, but without any organization, i highly doubt
it would work...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 14:10 [#00449716]
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like i say a countrry with no rule would be no good, but at
the same time being bent overr and haveing bullshit nitty
gritty rrules rrammed 10 inches up my arrse is no good
eitherr


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 14:11 [#00449717]
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desguised as "forr ourr own good"


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 14:14 [#00449720]
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governments are evil like christianity, oppresors all of em.

"harm none, do what thou wilt" should be standard policy for
governments. some laws should be kept though, like traffic
laws.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-20 14:35 [#00449734]
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again, what is it exactly that irritates you..?

only saying how evil your government is, doesn't make a very
convincing argument.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 14:39 [#00449737]
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i don't care, it's eveil i tell ye!
if this was truly a free country prostitution and drugs
would be legal. freedom no longer frees us, it's freedom
with their exception, which to some is no freedom at all.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 14:45 [#00449740]
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we are free to make money to pay taxes to line their pockets
is what it boils down to.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 14:46 [#00449742]
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fundamentally no different than a goddamn kingdom of the
middle ages in europe, it's just more complex


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2002-11-20 14:48 [#00449743]
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I agree with uzims opening statement. Let's tear down
reality. If only I knew how.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 14:49 [#00449744]
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ok herre is a nitty-grritty example...

at 16 in the Uk you can have sex, but not buy porrn.

at 16 in the UK you arre not legally entitled to a minimum
wage but if you worrk a cerrtain amount of hourrs still get
taxed.




 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-20 14:52 [#00449747]
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so?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-20 14:55 [#00449751]
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so we're all gonna vote liberal democrats then........



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-20 14:55 [#00449752]
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so therre arre too many laws, therre arre to many things set
up to keep people on this perrfect line, no wonderr people
go off the rails a little, they are so thin.

its ok when you arrent that 16 yearr old who is shot out on
the strreet trrying to worrk but who dosent have enough
money to live on, that turrns to stealing.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 15:08 [#00449761]
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middle ages + technology= modern times


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-20 16:24 [#00449803]
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You stupid ****s. You should be thankful you're born in a
country and in a time where the standard of living is so
high. If you were born even 100 years ago you'd think this
was bloody paradise. Of course it's not perfect and probably
never will be but remember you are one of the lucky ones.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-20 16:29 [#00449804]
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i agree with what u said


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-20 16:37 [#00449805]
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i feel fortunate to live in the UK. but comparing now to 100
years ago is ridiculous.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-11-20 16:57 [#00449811]
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well..you have to remember.. the people running things are
bright..they wouldnt be in that position otherwise... err..
the president doesnt count...

but its not an issue of intelligence.. more of intentions..
the people who pursue careers in politics and coporate
business arent exactly doing it for the good of mankind...
i'd say about 99.9% of them are in it for the power alone..
and in order to keep that power secure.. they have to keep
you in line with more rules..
the majority of people accept these rules because they're
convinced its for their own good.. most people are more than
willing to give up a little freedom for more security

and if you arent...well, you're out of luck i guess


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-21 07:14 [#00450351]
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i obey the rrules, but i don't like them


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-11-21 07:41 [#00450388]
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But in the UK the gap between richest and poorest is at its
greatest since records began in the 19th century.


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-21 08:21 [#00450429]
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If you were born even 100 years ago you'd think this was
bloody paradise.


yeah, and if i were born in 1885 and would complain, you'd
say that i'm a cunt because it was worse in 1785? -_-


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-21 08:27 [#00450440]
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still, we're very lucky compared to people in poor
countries, with war, hunger, grievous diseases incurable
because of lack of money, etc. i agree with that.

(knowing that i'm more lucky than most other people doesn't
make me happy in any way though. it'd just make me feel more
sad for the other people.
but i have difficulty to realize that... seeing famine,
diseases, poverty, etc. every day on tv make some of us feel
saturated, and desensibilized...)


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-21 08:32 [#00450449]
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Just live with the rules and try to bend them, use them in
your advance where ever possible I'd say.
Talking about porn...
Porn on TV should be only shown deep in the night, while
from 8 PM we can happily watch people shooting at eachother,
on the news or just as a movie.



 

offline uzim on 2002-11-21 08:35 [#00450451]
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yeah...
x-rated movies very deep in the night, horror movies in the
dead of night... arf


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-21 08:40 [#00450457]
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to expound, i agree with your sentiment diablo, but i can
realise i'm lucky and still complain. it's my right and duty
as an american. you ass, it's the american way to point out
things wrong with the system in search of a better way. or
are you forgetting that's how the usa originated?


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-21 09:39 [#00450533]
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Yeah but it just pissed me off someone goin "yeah tear down
the system" when theyre obviously benefitting from it. I
dunno whatever. It just seemed kind of pathetic moaning
about not being able to buy porn when theres people getting
killed and stuff for political beliefs in other countries
etc.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-21 09:57 [#00450541]
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Ah, the duality of man. Whilst we hate the shackles of
conformity and law and order, at the same time we crave the
freedoms it gives us.

Jonesy: Yes, in financial terms, but in actual quality of
life they've never been closer. Even the "poor" can often
afford cars, wine, holidays and general luxeries. It's just
that richer people have a) ones of a better quality and b)
more of them.

Not saying that's right, just that the poor now are better
of in terms of lifestyle than the rich even 200 years ago.
More exotic foods available- bette rhealthcare, better
travel etc.


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-21 09:58 [#00450543]
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ok, on these points i totally agree with you.

people criticize the system, but are still taking profit
from it... it's hypocritical.
maybe some of them would only like to fix the absurdities in
the system though, absurdities from which they don't take
profit at all.

and about much more grievous problems, priorities,
solidarity and stuff... if we would stop producing weapons
during a short time, or if we stopped buying perfume during
one year, etc. the problem of world famine could be solved,
as they say...
but no one will ever do it. sad. =(


 

offline uzim on 2002-11-21 10:01 [#00450545]
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on the other hand...

if these people don't really stand a chance to beat the
system they're criticizing, there's no point in not taking
profit of it, since it won't make the situation any
"worse"...


 

offline Gubb on 2002-11-21 10:43 [#00450565]
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"it's the american way to point out
things wrong with the system in search of a better way. "

i thought the american way was: i dont care as long as i get
my car, my mcDonalds, mind numbing tv shows and lower those
taxes for christ sake! :)

anyone trying to disrupt anything of the above is to be
classed as a terrorist and should be bombed.


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2002-11-21 10:45 [#00450567]
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i wonder how things could be different if some of us spent
half the time rating computer tracks and tried their hands
at 'governing'.

-'poor people' do not have more now, we simply have a
different rating system.
-there are more poor people in the world, because there are
too many people for each to support themselves
-the geographic scale technology encompasses is at odds with
humans' communal abilities
-organized governments have an advantage in supplying
necessities and more
-we will become more and more a police state because society
expects more and more from the government, and is more and
more demoralised about the prospects of having 'a say'.
- communism sounds nice, but doesn't work at large scales
- democracy makes sence, but increasingly has problems at
large scales
- god sounds nice, but i'll never know for sure

if you feel too controlled, try living somewhere else.
you might not have your DSL hookup, or police protection
when you are brutally mutilated, or your chance at lotto.

but it will probably be there soon.

now get back to work!



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-21 10:49 [#00450570]
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"Yeah but it just pissed me off someone goin "yeah tear down
the system" when theyre obviously benefitting from it. I
dunno whatever. It just seemed kind of pathetic moaning
about not being able to buy porn when theres people getting
killed and stuff for political beliefs in other countries
etc."

forr a starrt it was just a simple topic name. and secondly
that porrn comment was a example that i pointed out was
nitty grritty and childish just so i could show the
contrradictions in the law. i can buy porrn if i want.


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-21 10:50 [#00450571]
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whoa! that was good. i'm scared.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-21 10:51 [#00450572]
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and i can moan, i can moan all i want, its my human rright.
i'm not happy that people die in otherr contrries, i am
quite awarre but therre is always someone worrse off. you
can't say to the one arrmed man that he can't be sad he has
one arrm because theirr arre people with no arrms.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-21 10:53 [#00450575]
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why arre you taking this attitude with me? what have done to
you?


 

offline diablo on 2002-11-21 11:00 [#00450586]
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Sorry it came across so harsh. It was how I felt. Lets face
it none of us has an answer.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-11-21 12:00 [#00450653]
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Life is too damn good in the western world. We are so
unbelievably spoiled. I love it when people in rich
countries complain and moan, it's good for a laugh. Pray to
God or whoever or whatever you believe in that you're not
reincarnated as an Ethiopian or something.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-21 15:00 [#00450815]
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i do. but also prrey to God you don't come back as a
homeless perrson in the Uk


 


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