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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 17:01 [#00419601]
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hello.

I have been working all night on reinstalling XP as it
imploded in the middle of the day.

yes, reinstalling, which meant formatting my harddrive. I
was very angry. all data on my laptop is lost.

luckily I had recently made a back-up, so I have all my
music, but most of my writing is gone.

FUCKKKKKK!


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 17:02 [#00419603]
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why reformat?...that sound drastic...

XP is great in my experience and I run several heavy-weight
NT/XP servers with no problems whatsoever...


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-10-28 17:04 [#00419605]
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youve learned a lesson, from now on, partition your hard
drive...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 17:06 [#00419609]
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somehow a 'hive' -file got corrupt, or was lost.. windows
wouldn't run, whatever I tried. so I phoned the helpdesk at
Dell and that person said "shit, thats bad, you need to
reinstall XP" and there is no way to reinstall XP without
formatting.

I thought it was drastic too.. :(


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 17:06 [#00419611]
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As do I jand......

I have no problem with it..I do have a backup
though.....lol.Don't trust it.

I don't fancy it fucking up.....Good luck to you qrter.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 17:06 [#00419612]
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according to the helpdesk, Microsoft says this can happen in
XP and they have no idea how it happens..


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 17:07 [#00419613]
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thanks, Tone..

seems to be up and running now..


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 17:21 [#00419625]
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"there is no way to reinstall XP without
formatting. "...that guy was feeding you bollocks...

And wtf is a hive file?....

but glad you got things back up n running...



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 17:38 [#00419635]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



supposedly ' hives' are the buildingblocks of Windows.. if
one goes bad, the whole thing collapses..

well, he could well have fed me bollocks, as I'm not very
good at this stuff..


 

offline doug from Sydney (Australia) on 2002-10-28 18:18 [#00419657]
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Definately partition your drive so you can format the OS
partition whenever it fucks up, but keep your others safe..
its saved me so many times.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 18:23 [#00419658]
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mm.. sounds like a sound idea, yes..


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-28 18:29 [#00419660]
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What the fuck causes OS things to crash? Fucker happened to
me a while back. Methinks I'm going to back this shit up
next week, I'm getting paranoid.

Everytime I boot my cpu up, I'm afraid it won't get past the
boot... I'm nervous as hell with this thing. I always expect
the worst when it freezes or I see a blue screen. I can't
live with this tension.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-10-28 18:33 [#00419664]
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my Windows 2000 professional OS, has YET to crash on me...
the reason I only "thought" it did, was because my sound
card did not have the proper drivers & so... winamp wouldn't
play anything, or rather, there would be no sound,
whatsoever.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-10-28 19:06 [#00419698]
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BUY A MAC!!!!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-10-28 19:43 [#00419748]
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my computer is fucked up... I think it's going to explode
soon...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 20:48 [#00419812]
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The only piece of software to crash XP I've found, is
Soulseek...

And that's only happened twice in over a year....bad crash
tho, it reset the machine which if you know how stable XP
is, is a very hard thing to do...



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2002-10-28 21:48 [#00419890]
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"somehow a 'hive' -file got corrupt, or was lost.. windows
wouldn't run, whatever I tried. so I phoned the helpdesk at
Dell and that person said "shit, thats bad, you need to
reinstall XP" and there is no way to reinstall XP without
formatting. "

Utter rubbish. You just got taken for a ride. Basically they
wanted to get you off the phone as quickly as possible
because every support call costs them money.

Your registry (hive shmive) was toast (or part of it was)
but I guarantee the filesystem was not damaged at all. You
could have put that drive as a slave into another XP/Win2K
system and accessed the data just fine.

Also, large companies like Dell often don't give you a real
operating system CD, just a restore CD that, as you learned,
wipes out everything before reinstalling.

It's easier that way, and studies indicate people are happy
to bend over and let themselves be sodomized.

Next time something like that happens, take your PC to a mom
and pop shop and have a real tech copy your data out onto a
CD or another hard drive--IF your data is worth the effort.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 21:55 [#00419896]
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^^^^ true true true....



 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-10-28 22:10 [#00419907]
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I keep all my important data on seperate drives from the OS.
And I really want to avoid winXP but I'm gettting a new
comp this week, so I'm kinda screwed, unless I format it
immediately...


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-10-28 22:48 [#00419922]
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XP aint all that bad... It's kinda cheesy but it does the
job well. Saved alot of time using this OS.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-10-28 23:21 [#00419946]
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i love XP, personally


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 23:45 [#00419983]
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once you get rid of all that Fisher Price interface lark,
it's not that cheesy...

but that style does seem to be popular with newbie computer
users for some reason...

and yeah, I love XP as well...bought an Epson printer the
other day and instantly upon connecting the USB cable, XP
went off to the internet, downlaoded the drivers, installed
me without me having to do a thing...very smooth indeed...

same goes for when my cable modem was installed...it just
worked...

what more can you ask of an OS?...


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-10-28 23:46 [#00419988]
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2k of course, go off with xp spyware shiat, that just help
gates (c=


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-10-29 00:51 [#00420034]
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Even a telly-tubby could use it.... :D


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-10-29 01:42 [#00420044]
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xp has a lot of bugs but it boots up damn fast compared to
win2k ;D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-29 01:47 [#00420047]
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Surely borrow a bootable drive from someone else, set that
as the master an your old drive as slave then copy all your
old files to the new one, re-format the old one then move
the files back?

Jand: re XP: Yep, I used to think it wasn't a "serious" OS
because of the kiddy interface, but like you say 99% of new
hardware works first time. Great when setting up a new
machine to not have to mess around with drivers etc. there
are also lots of little improvements that you only notice
when going back to 98 and they aren't there.

Damn, just spotted fleetmouse said the same thing as me :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 03:21 [#00420100]
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yeah well, that would've been a viable option if I knew
someone with said bootable drive.

anyway, as I said, I know shit about this stuff, so there
you go.. :(


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-29 03:29 [#00420108]
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Grr, sorry they lied to you on the support desk. Ring them
up and ask to speak to a supervisor and say you're annoyed
at having been lied to just to cut down call time.

In future post here before ringing a helpdesk :)


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-29 03:55 [#00420118]
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When I get my new PC it will have NT5/Win2000 on and nothing
else. I also plan on getting an AmigaOne. I won't touch XP
but NT5 is the best MS OS IMO. }:>


 

offline magiker from Östersund (Sweden) on 2002-10-29 05:57 [#00420187]
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<-- Happy Linux user, XP on the side.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 07:08 [#00420220]
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thanks.. I would have posted here, but I couldn't even get
XP up and running in safe mode.. :(


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 07:13 [#00420225]
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Ceri, qrter has a laptop. Is it then possible to insert
another hd as a master drive OR insert his hd as slave in
another comp. with a (working) bootable master hd?
I wonder...


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 07:21 [#00420236]
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magiker, i don't know much about linux, but is there good
linux audio software available?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-29 07:27 [#00420239]
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If he could have borrowed an external parallel cable one...
hard to come by though and quite small in space. Sorry, I
hadn't noticed it was a laptop :(


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 07:43 [#00420247]
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mm..I'm getting partition magic now.. do some hardass
partitioning..


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 07:52 [#00420256]
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that's a good boy:)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2002-10-29 16:07 [#00420624]
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Ya know qrter, it occurs to me that even if you have
separate document partitions, that goddamned Dell recovery
CD you have is probably going to blow them away and create
one big partition and reformat it again next time this shit
happens.... I would be surprised if it didn't.

Did the tech have you fdisk and format it yourself or did
you just boot with the disk in the C drive and click one or
two buttons for the whole shebang?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-29 18:20 [#00420754]
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well.. he made me boot with the disk.. it did ask which
partition I wanted to use.. could be it then still would
format everything.. hope I never find out.

just made a seperate partition for music + writing..


 

offline dmise from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-10-29 21:09 [#00420912]
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One of my lecturers was demonstrating iMovie in a tute the
other day and his Mac kept crashing and he had to reboot. It
got to the point where he had to talk about something else
cause it kept crashing and he couldn't demostrate anything.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-12-15 03:03 [#00481339]
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So soulseek crashes XP? That doesn't sound good..
Im thinking of going XP this weekend.


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-12-15 03:28 [#00481346]
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i feel yea i had a major problem with my cdrw and i had to
call the company and they sent me a fix, but i would have
never known without major research, time and effort :P


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-12-15 04:34 [#00481366]
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i heard of implementing windows applications in linux,
called LinDos or something. it 'd be great to have the
stability of linux os combined with the compatibility of
windows proggs!


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-12-15 04:44 [#00481370]
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Windows NT and 2000, and I am quite sure it also accounts
for XP, have a repair function on the install CD. If you
could get a proper install CD maybe repairing the
installation would have helped.
Qrter, do you have a 'regular' pc in addition to your
lappie?
If both have network interfaces, you could link them with a
crosscable and backup to the other PC.
I know this is 'mosterd na de maaltijd'* but maybe its handy
to prevent another disaster like this.

*translation: Mustard after dinner


 

offline Verkrampte from Renton (United States) on 2002-12-15 14:33 [#00481689]
Points: 1182 Status: Regular



WIN M.E all the way!


 


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