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this dude ripped it up... and isnt pitchfork like a rock obsessed review site? |
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I'd be surprised if those guys over at Pitchfork ever liked anything. Not a big Godspeed fan myself though. |
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yeah, they are pretty harsh and bitter most of the time... :S |
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I don't know why I look there for reviews so much. They are a bunch of xenophobic dicks! Still, it was their Radiohead reviews that helped convince me to get some of their stuff. Check out Kid A review by the way. |
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I don't see that at all. There are lots of 9+/10 records reviewed on their site. In fact, all of the other GYBE! records. |
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Sorry, guess I just end up seeing more of the badly rated ones. |
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Question authority people. "And I told the judge..." |
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a rumble from a ruined speaker to maybe bring the government down one sorry heart at a time |
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hes just mad that theres no samples and that its different. hes saying that it has no meaning if theres no samples. well I too dont like the the nonuse of samples I still wouldnt hold that against the album. pitchfork talks so much shit anyways, I just read their reviews anyways for some reason. |
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At least it wasn't one of those narrative reviews where the writer is writing a letter to a dead poet or talking to his imaginary friend about a childhood trip to the zoo. Me, I fuckin hate that. Lately I get the sense that Pitchfork writers are desperately searching for the next big thing, and since they haven't found it they have to roast anything from the recent past--nothing worse than being seen wearing last year's t-shirt. Whatever the next big thing is (minimal Bengali polka-hop?) I doubt Pitchfork will be the way I find out about it. |
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pitchfork reviews mean nothing to me but a cheap laugh. 90% of what their writers say in the reviews is pompous, conceited, facetious, and most importantly, very misleading. by saying this album is bad because it lacks samples of strangers is to show that they miss the point of godspeed's music if they're just in it for the cute clips of lunatics and short wave radio chatterboxes. that's like their fucking hip-hop reviews, grading solely by the eccenticities of the beats or how it rates on their scale of music to get high to, god forbid they actually analyze the lyrical content and delivery that is central to rapping. pitchfork = poseurs who get lucky sometimes with their positive reviews. |
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i agree with you 100% on this one titsworth. if i see an album that they give a 9 or 10 and an album they give a 5 its really means no difference to me because what they give a 5 could be a 10 and what they give a 10, id give a 5. example #1: Wilco - yhf, id give it like a 6 or 6.5, its nothing special at all, kamera is the worst track ever. the only reason they gave a damn about yhf was because it was in a label struggle. it didnt even change labels! it just switched from one label to another under the same owner. nonesuch is not independent at all its owned by a f ucking l. |
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whoops Aol-Time warner |
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my advice to people who DO read pitchfork reviews: ignore the # they rate the cd and pay attention to the review itself. look at how they describe the cd. are they being facetious? i read a review of blackalicious' "nia" where the reviewer took the guise of some angry grandmother. pitchfork throw a ton of curveballs because they're way up their own asses ("arses"). just pay attention to how they are reviewing the music, if they are at all. |
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funniest pitchfork review was jimmy eat world. one time i actually like what they had to say. but that Godspeed review was harsh. |
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didn't pitchfork give And You Will Know Us By The Trail of the Dead's newest album a 10 or something? Like come on, they're nothing special!! |
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i found it amusing how the poem that guy goes onto read turns to be an iron maiden song, when he claims he wrote it. |
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yea, "virus".. godspeed didn't know it was maiden tho, they took him at his word |
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Yeah, Pitchfork reviews are generally quite arbitrary. That's what is fun about reading them....to see whether Ryan Schreiber or one of his goons gushes all over some new release, or rips it apart. Pitchfork loves: Pitchfork hates: |
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yo homeboy bust it |
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Haha, yeah, I read that Jimmy Eat World review... that was good stuff. I don't like it when their reviews get too ''weird''... the narrative bullshit. But some of them really crack me up, and I actually agree with their reviews quite often. Although sometimes I come away wondering what the fuck I just read... random self concious gibberish and some number pasted there... |
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hah ..i figured out what the review was going to be like before i even read it.. "eh, its ok..but nowhere near as great as (insert past album by band, and/or other similar band)" in every review i've read there, the reviewer focuses on comparing the album to other albums.. even in the rare positive reviews, the album is never as good as the 'masterpiece' the reviewer has established as a reference point |
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and in the rare case when they DON'T establish a direct comparison, their line of positive thinking is "TRUST US, loyal pitchfork listener, i would NOT steal you wrong. if you don't like it you can give me 10 lashings with river cuomos' glasses," or something stupid like that. they NEVER really evaluate the music itself, just the image of how cool or uncool it is. |
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but what do you (as in: everyone who's heard it) think about the new GYBE-album? I thought that was what this thread was going to be about. Most of the times i disagree completely with pitchfork... but some of their reviews are written so enthusiasticly that you actually feel like running out to the store to immediately buy that cd... which is cool i think :-D The nice thing about pitchfork is they give their writers ALOT of freedom. |
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I think the new GY!BE album is really good, much more akin to the Wire review than the Pitchfork one. Incidentally the Pitchfork review is so far off the mark I wonder if they were listening to the right CD at all. Some of you may have downloaded a track off the net called 'Tazer Floyd'. This track appears on Yanqui UXO as 'Rocket Falls On Rocket Falls'. It's been reworked from the live version that I heard in Bradford and is the standout track on the album. Tracks 1&2 - '09-15-00' - got my attention on the first listen and are excellent, but 4&5 - 'motherfucker=redeemer' didn't. I suspect they will grow on me though. It's actually very rare that I really get into an album on the first listen, so so far it's doing better than can be expected! |
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Hm... i haven't heard the new one yet myself. I'm still having doubts whether i'll buy it. Actually (having heard their first 3 releases) i sort of agree with this bit: "Or that they just keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, hoping for a different result. Someone tell Godspeed that orchestras play all kinds of music and that uprising can take other forms in music than apexes conveying abandonment, loss or apocalypse." I completely fell in love with Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada (which was the first GYBE i heard) when i bought it, and listened to it an incredible number of times... never ever getting bored with it. Then i bought the first album... and still thought it was great. Sure the songs were a little similar, but they were all great songs, and enjoyed the album lots. When Skinny Fists was released... i bought it immediately... but felt slightly dissapointed. Sure the songs were great (again, as usual)... but i really got the feeling that i'd heard it all before :-/ GYBE don't seem to be making alot of progress. And i kinda feel buying this new release would be like buying the same cd for the fourth time. Sure they are a unique amazing and talented band... but they should move on already, try something new. But then again, maybe they did :-) I'm hoping this new album will sound differently from the last 3 albums. I'll listen to it next time i'm in a decent recordstore for sure... but this time GYBE will have to convince me the album will really be worth it. |
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They do make Playthroughs sound pretty compelling. I'm eager to check it out. Surely it can't be as mediocre as that Trail of Dead they raved about. But I tell ya that was the last time I'm buying something unheard on PF's say-so. |
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fleetmouse: they suckered me into checking out trail of dead (hated it; if i wanted to listen to something that sounded like sonic youth in their 80s heyday i'd listen to my fucking sonic youth albums); shalabi effect (yaaaaawn, the only gybe! related cd i haven't liked); and most recently, playthrough (fucking pointless). fortunately i didn't buy any of those. 3 strikes and they're out though; i'm not going to check out any of their "trust us, it's so good!" albums anymore cos all they care about is how cool it'll appear to trendy fuckfaces, not how interesting or good the music actually is. |
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Ugh, Shalabi Effect. I bought Sam Shalabi and the Kristian/Shalabi/St. Onge CDs too, all boring as hell. I would really recommend Yanqui UXO to Surrounded. To me it seems a much more tightly focused and directed album, particularly in comparison to Skinny Fists. Of course it's unmistakably GY!BE, but they've cut down on a lot of the meaningless musical meanderings (!) of the past. Another thing to note is that these tracks aren't beautiful epics. To me they're quite brutal ones, the tone being much darker and harsher than in the past. There's certainly plenty here to distinguish the album from it's predecessors. |
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"There's certainly plenty here to distinguish the album from it's predecessors" That is exactly what i was hoping for :-D I hope i'll agree with you! |
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so who has the album and what is it like? |
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Jesus, I wonder how many other suckers were fucked over by that Trail of Dead review. I was so let down when I finally heard it that I took the cd out halfway through and tossed it in garbage. |
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ehm... trail of dead got good reviews everywhere! I agree the record is nothing special, but still... pitchfork was not the only one praising it. There must be something about it that appeals specifically to music-reviewers or something... |
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yea, trendiness |
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hehe, i'm beginning to see what you mean ;-) |
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i have no idea what they were thinking, i mean they give relationship of command a 6.5 and trail of dead a 10?! clearly atdi's album is waaaaay better. the wilco album is also nowhere near a 10. i dont even need to think about buying the enw gybe because I know itll be good. they only release quality music. |
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...relationship of command... Now that is one great rockalbum! I'm so sad they decided to split up :-( (saw Sparta live in concert a while back and they were horrible... not even close to atdi). There was a time when that cd (ROC) never left my cd-player for a couple of weeks straight... it's just awesome! Totally crawls under your skin, and has a drive and so much energy... unlike any other band i know. I forget the songtitles, but i love the song where they keep screaming: "manuscript replica!"... and also the one with the kidnap-telephone call as intro... ah... actually i love them all! Fantastic cd! |
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