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what' your view/opinion on religion? I think it's all bullocks, I don't hold peoples religion against them,.. but I hate it when they try to force stuff on to me, I also hate it when people try to convince religous people that there is no god/budha, whatever, If god forgives all then why is there a hell? as if that argument is going to make a christian doubt his beliefs, it's just silly |
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I don't know and I'm not soul searching to find out. If god sticks his head through the clouds and say's hi, I'll say hi back ............ and that's about it =oD |
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Nicely put. |
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I'm with pOgO on that one aswell! |
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Best fun is arguing with Jehovahs witnesses, "Don't you think it's flawed to right the holy text of your religion 42 years after your religion was started? Surely people jsut wrote stuff to back up what they already believed? Doesn't that make your "scripture" worthless?" |
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You know... I've always entertained a nagging hunch that p0g0 is the Messiah. don't ask me why.... :) |
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Jehovahs witnesses are so much fun... I forgot to ask them for there crazy bible!! Damn.. next time then.. I invited them into my room and all!!! Jehovahs witnesses chillin' with da prrrrinco! ;) |
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Hear about the dyslexic, insomniac, philosopher? He spent all night wondering if there was a Dog *heh heh |
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pogo's post is the best ever posted. ever. |
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=oO I've been had ! *pulls apart the clouds and returns home to daddy* |
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I don't know about God but: "I believe that religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind - that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overcome by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking." - H.L. Mencken |
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i think the situation is more complicated that we think or that we can imagine... maybe there are many things that we don't know but could be called "god" or "gods", because they would have the ability of controlling us or because they would had created our universe... maybe a force, maybe an alien population, maybe something else we can't imagine... i don't think anything is eternal though -- and i hope it is so... i wouldn't like to be dominated by one only god (and if he had a personality that would be catastrophic!), especially forever... maybe we control and create universes too, without knowing it, in another dimensions, by our thoughts or chain reactions or whatever... so everyone would be "god" in another world (or several), and everyone would have one or several "gods" too... who knows? |
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Ceri> or the old Bill Hicks question "Dinosaur?" well why aren't they mentioned in the bible huh? the story of the universe since its creation... and you missed out the meetings of man with 200 tonne lizards...... sure :) apparently they believe Dinosaur fossils are fakes buried by God to test our faith in him.... Fuck that ; any religion that believes that God is Jeremy Beadle has to be a joke :) |
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I agreed to go to one of their church services for a laugh. It was really scary these 2 guys kept on ringing me all the time asking me to go to their prayer session (it was on the same evening as my kung fu class) and how it was God's will that I went. In the end I asked them to stop calling... Still, at least you can take solace in the fact that those of them who lose their faith/are excommunicated for disagreeing with an elder usually commit suicide as their whole life (family, friends, job, etc) is based around their faith... Smokehammer: That would make Jar a male verison of Mary (or something)... |
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I think that the human mind cannot grasp the fact that when we die we just die ! The human mind is so complex and emotions feel so real that there "must" be a place for them to go !! When realy it's just chemicals and shit in your body making you feel that way It also helps you greave when you think of a loved one in a better place |
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i agree with you pOgO... ' _ ' |
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"Its just a ride" (Hicks) |
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best way to deal with Jehovahs Witnesses is to answer the door naked!!! they soon fuck off |
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"Life of Brian" says it all really.... Anyway, one should really define what one means by "God". A "force", an intelligence, a feeling... whatever that means..... Lets get down to it! |
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I don't know if I believe in the catholic god or in any other. I believe in the law of entropy / I don't know if it's equivalent to believe in god. |
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I once spied the jehova's approaching my door, i quickly ran into my room to get the "spawn" soundtrack and turned it up full ball,. skipped to song 2 and pressed pause key [m] = me [J] = jehova [S] = stereo [m]*waits [J]*suit wearing, neat, reserved group of two approach door, bible under each arm *knock knock [M]*presses play *chuckles [S] *cd spinning sound "SATAN SATAN SATAN SATAN!!! *followed by trashy hard rock [J]*look around heaps worried and walk off down the street, not even going to the next house I laughed/cried for an hour straight afterwards,.. it was that damn funny |
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"Its just a ride... but we always kill the guys that tell us that.... Gandhi... KILLED Kennedy...KILLED Malcolm X...KILLED Lennon....KILLED Reagan....wounded :D |
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Ever noticed that the number of Gods increases with the degree of ethnic tension ? I mean, Northern Ireland appears to have two Gods , but that doesn't make it twice as peaceful. Surely its better to forget God and get along with each other . |
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I don't believe in a god.. but I won't say it couldn't be possible.. |
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I declare a new religion phobiazeroism total gods: - 3 thats right - 3 |
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The basis of the God concept at the end of the day, HAS to be economic ultimately... it is in northern ireland anyway, those stupid fuckers! It seems to be the driving force of this planet anyway. Anyone see "Network"? Ned Beatty's corporate speach to that guy who started preaching benevolence to the world. Ned says "There is no god, no countries, no people..... only the dollar". I'm glad there is music |
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no more questions, just listen and obey : - |:| |
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Religion is bullshit but i am a strong beleiver in spirituality. I have a relationship with a higher power of my understanding which i choose to call god. That's pretty much the jist of my beliefs. I hate organized religion. It's mind control in the form of easy answers. I say believing in whatever you want is the way. Atheists are weak people though. You've got to stand for something in my opinion. I believe it's all just one god and he really dosn't give a fuck about all the petty bullshit religion says he does. It's fucking ridiculous to organize something as beautiful as individual spirituality. I fucking hate christians also. They're the worlds most shallow hypocrites. |
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every night i pray that there is a heaven i'm unsure if my prayers have been answered, i'm much more concerned about finding pot... that's my view on religion, i'm sure i'll get a lot more sentemental/speculative when my grandmother dies, but 'til then, i'll stick w/ my herbal sacrement |
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I'm very religious. It's never failed me. However, fanatics, right wing crazies, people pushing religion, is simply wrong. The worst thing for me is religious people who claim homosexuality is so wrong. I wonder which trait God likes more, hate and anger, or compassion? yeah, thought so. I am 100% traditionally religious though, it keeps me alive sometimes, but I'm always open to a dialouge though. |
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funny thing about christians,.. 000 til 1900 drugs used in all types of ceremonies 1900 til now very, very, anti drugs it appears god changed his mind |
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my brain has the capacity to do a lot more than it does. As does the human race coleectively. We are our own fucking God. Stop looking out there and take a look in the fucking mirror. We should all just wake the fuck up!!! |
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" I fucking hate christians also. They're the worlds most shallow hypocrites. " Bit of a swepeing generalisation there... could you be more specific, perhaps, catholicism or money making tv evangelists or irritating jehovah's witnesses? Such a broad statement hardly seems fair... |
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so keyfumbler is saying that we were just all of a sudden here . You're saying there is no power greater than yourself. Any power greater than yourself is defined as a god. WAKE THE FUCK UP! |
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DNA controlling us all,.. to him we are all experiments |
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I've never met a christian who accepted me as a person, they ridicule my lifestyle then go and do the same. At least every christian i 've ever known . Including my mother. I grew up strict southern baptist so i guess you could say i was religiously raped. |
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Sadly, I know a lot who are like that. There are a few of us (I know 3 others) who aren't like that. I don't have a go at anyone, I don't try to ram religion down anyone's neck etc. I really don't think that's what God wants... |
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No, we developed from a complicated process of electrochemical reactions initiated at the beginning of our known time and the concept of "what happed BEFORE that" is as unknowable to us at the moment as how a calculator works would be unknowable to a monkey. We got lots to learn and the first thing whould be that God concepts are a left over from more primative times. Maybe we can never grasp the full meaning of it all... maybe thats like asking a fish to grasp Digital Signal Processing.. it maybe inherently ungraspable by the human mind. I'm awake.Are you from Kansas where evolution is ignored? |
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so wierd reading this thread... I'm an ex-jehovah witness. I was raised by my parents as one, and didn't get out till I was 19 or so. I actually "pioneered" for a couple years, which means i knocked on people's doors for 20 hours a week. god I hated that... what someone said about ex-jehovahs commiting suicide is true. i know the only reason i didn't leave earlier was because everyone you've ever known your whole life will shun you. all the ex-jehovahs i know are seriously messed up, heroine seems to be the drug of choice, and i can't really blame them, just hope that they get through it. if you want them to stop coming to your house just tell them that you should be on their list as a do-not-call. they'll understand and will only be back every couple years or so. |
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I thought you were irish? Surely you fall into Catholic/protestant? ;) It must get on your wick when people assume that, eh? (An irish mate of my brother gets really pissed of when people assume he's religious because he's irish) |
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KeyFumbler, I'm god of my body, maybe, but I don't feel I'm god of my fate, I leave that to a higher power. |
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i was born catholic alright. but thats cultural, and is something i left when i gained enough knowledge to form my own opinion. if i had a kid, i would raise it as a catholic because my religious education was interesting, allowed for a well rounded childhood, and served the purpose of being a sourse of guidance when there was nothing else. .. on turning 15 i would of course say to my child... "now you do know that all that reigious crap was just a handy way of stableising you, bu now that you are stable... forget about it, man and have a spliff!" i don't feel like im go of my fate but i AM actually, i'm just lazy |
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i agree with blatentecho on his last point made. Well said. |
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Cheers for the info. Have you read the book, "Survivour" by Chuck Palahniuck? bTW I was joking about it being funny they commit suicide, it's a tradgedy in anyone's book. |
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He he, you warped man. Nah, I think a strict upbringing is healthy, just let them do what they like when they've grown up. |
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why is god so insecure? why does he want us to praise him, tell him how great he is all the time? |
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he dosn't you simple minded one track nothing. He only wants to see our happiness now and in the end. But your simple minded concepts block your portrayal of that element. |
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good question: no where does it indicate we must praise him constantly. Going to church/prayer is important, but doesn't need to revolve around "GOD IS GREAT" it is important to only have one true God, in a Judeo Christian world that is. SOme groups take it way to far..... |
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Praising God certianly shouldn't be a repeticious, meaningless task like chanting a mantra... |
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he doesn't .... man has built that in to religion because it is a control technique for man to praise the established, rich clergymen. I like Shintoism and buddishm... They recogised that man should look after the planet and himself ahead of the thievery of christianity and jewdaism..... Yes they have their supernatural side but they more or less acknowledge that siide of religion as being a tool... an abstract, creative device for elevating spiritual values above material ones. Western religion got bogged down in taking things too literally. its a mess... |
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