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offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-22 10:38 [#00413068]
Points: 3787 Status: Regular | Followup to Laserbeak: #00411807



THIS

"I think that because many people believe in god he exists
in a way."

is also one of the most interesting thoughts i've read in a
long time! You're absolutely right... religion is making
millions of people all over the world lead happy lives,
helping them and comforting them etc.... that can't be
called "nothing" indeed. And i agree with laserbeak there...
in a way the faith of all those people has made god real.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-10-22 10:40 [#00413070]
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intrasting



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 10:42 [#00413071]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



I hate "something-ism", where people say they don't believe
in a biblical god, but "well, there must be something" and
then start pointing at mountains and sunsets and insects
saying: "just look around you, that can't be coincidence,
can it?".

why not? thats the whole point of coincidence - its just
that, however small the chances are.
I think its human reasoning to think there must always be a
higher system that creates something less complicated..

"something-ism" seems to me like a cop-out - "I can't stand
the idea that there isn't some reason for existance, but I
don't really believe in anything, so I'll go with something
vague.."..


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 10:43 [#00413072]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



religion...

they found a box of bones belonging to jesus's brother.
apparently jesus had lots of brothers and sisters!! well it
was news to me anyway :)



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-22 10:55 [#00413078]
Points: 3787 Status: Regular | Followup to qrter: #00413071



i can see your point and understand why you feel that way...
but still i've found no better way to put it :-p

I don't believe in the bible, but i also don't believe it
was all just a coincidence! I find both these options to
amazing and unbelievable to be true... so it must be
something inbetween. Just haven't figured out what yet.
Maybe in 20 years time my anwser will be be somewhat less
vague.

It also probably has something to do with the fact that i
HOPE there is some sort of a higher being. When i think
about the coincidence-theory... everything just is, and has
no meaning whatsoever... that's a really scary thought to me
:-s

There's even a name for this phenomena :-p Lots of people
don't believe in God anymore... But in the place of their
lives where god used to be, there is now a god-shaped
hole... or so they say. And many people are looking for
something to fill that hole.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-22 10:58 [#00413079]
Points: 3787 Status: Regular | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00413072



they did? That's crazy! :-p
But how can they be sure whose brother a couple of bones
used to be? You'd think they'd need a bone of jesus himself
to compare the dna and whatnot?



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 11:02 [#00413084]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker | Followup to surrounded: #00413079



it was just on the news. the bone box had an inscription
saying something like 'this is whassisname, brother of
jesus.' apparently, normally those bone boxes only have an
inscription mentioning the name of the deceased and his
father.....

presumably jesus had already performed enough miracles to be
important enough to be mentioned on his brother's bone box
:O


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 11:02 [#00413085]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



they also say this proves jesus actually existed at some
time...


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-22 11:35 [#00413109]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker | Followup to Hiller_: #00412349



Hiller, do you know anything about the artwork or the artist
of your avatar? It seems a little contradictory to your
view point. Not that you can't enjoy art without
understanding or agreeing with it; it just caught my
attention.


 

offline BrokenCerebreum from Boise (United States) on 2002-10-22 11:37 [#00413111]
Points: 38 Status: Regular



there is so many possibilities... you just have to keep an
open mind


 

offline Gubb on 2002-10-22 11:47 [#00413114]
Points: 439 Status: Regular



beliving in got is like beliving in trolls, elves, big foot,
alien ufos etc.. IMO.

okey, perehaps somene gets a kick when he belive god is
watching his back or feels good when he know he will be
reborn as a toad or whatever but in the bigger picture
religon brings suffering and breeds ignorance. IMO


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2002-10-22 12:45 [#00413144]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker



i just want to believe what i want ! why should i believe in
god ? because i'm a christian ? and who the fuck asked me if
i want to be a christian ? i have the worst mark in
religion...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-22 12:57 [#00413151]
Points: 3787 Status: Regular | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00413084



yeah yeah, i just watched the news... and at the end of it
they announced they would have an item on those bones in the
late news, later this evening :-) I'll try to remember to
watch it!

It's probably a fake though... relics usually turn out to be
fakes. Throughout history there have been so many splinters
of wood from jesus' cross, you could have built at least 20
crosses from them :-p

Still it's an interesting discovery...


 


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