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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-09-04 19:52 [#00378919]
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Yep. Sad isn't it? I watched the new music video of them..forget which track..but that lead singer guy is lying down on pavement in the rain...and like colors are going all over the place...and rainbows! and the song itself just reeks pop. lets get back to the glory days! EVERYONE IS TURNING EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-09-04 19:52 [#00378921]
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For those who don't believe me, here's a list artists that have currently turned to the darkside:
Photek Daft Punk Chemical Brothers
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 19:52 [#00378922]
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Yeah, I was down about that loads. -.-
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 19:53 [#00378925]
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Oh man you are so right!
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Asche XL
on 2002-09-04 20:15 [#00378973]
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I like Underworld.
and photek, chem bros. and daft punk.
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electro
from detroit on 2002-09-04 21:02 [#00379079]
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no they are not pop? you silly cow :D ;D
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:04 [#00379085]
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they went pop about 6 years ago didn't they?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:04 [#00379087]
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They arent pop. Well not in the Britney, Liberty X, Robbie Williams sense of the word. Stop being so pretentious.
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-09-04 21:09 [#00379095]
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i love all the bands above cept photek
chem bros. new album is probably their best effort yet. you cant diss star guitar.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-09-04 21:12 [#00379098]
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ORBITAL! ORBITAL! ORBITAL! ORBITAL!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-09-04 21:15 [#00379103]
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I never liked any of the artists listed here. My electronic intro was Aphex Twin, and all of those guys would just be taking a step or five backwards from him.
Always seemed like glossy electronica pop to me even when I knew shit about IDM.
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-09-04 21:17 [#00379107]
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godbless glossy electronica pop
thats what i say
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:24 [#00379116]
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What's going on under your gown?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-04 21:31 [#00379126]
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there's a midget in there going to work!
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:35 [#00379134]
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They're new track is great! a big stomping dancey fest.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 21:36 [#00379136]
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lol!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:34 [#00379245]
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This is a bit silly...my philiosophy is that as long as it isn't manufactured (in an S Club 7/Britney kind of way) it is viable. All music has it's place....I am not afraid to admit I enjoy listening to some bizzare-cheesy robot-poppy Daft Punk just as much as some Aphex Twin, but obviously for different reasons.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:38 [#00379255]
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"Rez" is Underworld's all time great record, tho. Although everyone says "Born Slippy"..
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:39 [#00379256]
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I'm sure if we're honest we all like some stuff of DEBATABLE substance...
I recently bought the Dirty Vegas single...
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2002-09-04 22:40 [#00379259]
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WHO CARES IF THEY WENT POP?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2002-09-04 22:42 [#00379270]
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yay orbital.orbital. and beaucoup fish !
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-09-04 22:48 [#00379294]
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I think its funny how people say stuff like.... have an open mind... listen to idm... listen to gabber or glitch.... and when someone comes out with new release by a somewhat well known electronic artist... all these (what I like to call) IDM elitist folk really bash it ... not because its horrible but because somewhat mainstream (looked down upon because of its like of dsp tweakage), or that its not "underground". I like Underworld and photek, chem bros. and daft punk too. Just like I like gabber, glitch, braindance and early rave (prodigy, juno reactor), black metal, metal, classic rock, 80's pop, hip hop, industrial, classical, ambient and funk....... all kinds.. it all has its place really. I am sure some people think that underworld is complete shit, and that is totally OK because its their opinion and I respect that. But I am pretty sure a lot of these IDM elitist folk hardly ever listen to music outside of the "IDM" genra, and I think thats sad because people should listen to all styles of music really. Spice Girls Forever!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-09-04 22:50 [#00379300]
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and by the way.... Underworld.... DID in fact start out as a pop group.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-04 22:54 [#00379310]
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well said Mickey Mouse.....
Strange, didn't we used to have arguments about Autechre??
I like them now anyway...;)
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-09-04 23:40 [#00379390]
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CS2x I still am interested in hearing your tracks.... can you give me a link?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-09-04 23:48 [#00379397]
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off the topic....
I just bought Sasha's Airdrawndagger and Leftfield's Rhythm and Stealth.
Both of those albums rule!
On Topic:
I agree with Mickey Mouse, it's sad that majority of the people here bash other styles of electronica. Sure IDM is the best is most cases, but there are so many other great sounds.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-09-05 00:39 [#00379473]
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I like the new UNDERWORLD track !!!!!!!!!!!
Two Days off
Everyone dload it ! Tho there is better trance !
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-09-05 01:01 [#00379516]
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remixes are better than the original
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-09-05 01:03 [#00379518]
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ugh it sounds so eurodance (whatever it's called), i didn't think it was underworld when i heard it on the radio... a cheap trick
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-09-05 01:23 [#00379535]
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Underworld are just boring - I've seen them live too, and they were boring then
*oh no, it's the Velvet Underground soundtracked commercial for Ford*
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-09-05 01:24 [#00379536]
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*Hyunadai
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kluizenaar
from Netherlands Antilles on 2002-09-05 01:28 [#00379540]
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my cousin used to sell weed at pink pop (he and his heavilly mustashed(?) father)
ANd they once sold their entire stash for the day to underworld.
I've never heard their music tho ,is it good?
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Weakling Child
from Atlanta (United States) on 2002-09-05 01:33 [#00379544]
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Wait...what is the definition of going pop? More than 25 people liking you? Remember, these people are trying to make a living. They are not going to deny themselves fans..
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-09-05 01:38 [#00379547]
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everything that IDM heads think is pop is usually not even so.
I'm like hey basment jaxx = pop everyone I know says no I'm like hey daft punk = pop everyone I know says no I'm like hey dirty vegas = pop everyone I know says no it's odd I still love that stuff though!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-09-05 01:39 [#00379548]
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Youre right there, WC - What's wrong with changing your musical direction if it means more people will buy your records? Maybe even a few ad agencies will take a shine to it and Underworld could be advertising healthy fizzy drinks or sumpthin'
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-09-05 02:01 [#00379563]
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I guess i consider myself an idm / art elitest... i don't know. i KNOW for a fact underworld could do better than what they are doing because they did Pearl's girl and born slippy...rocking tracks.
going pop is loosing steam imo. going pop is like daft punk loosing their sweet house style of homework to the commercial radio-playables of discovery. I mean take the last track? what was that? backstreet boys type singing? my word! what were they smoking!? photek making house is just as bad as aphex twin making country music. its just so bad when artists get lazy i guess. i just REALLY REALLY hope autechre don't do anything rash and get weak and come out with something everyone will like. that's it...i'll leave music altogether if that happens.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-09-05 03:07 [#00379615]
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Don't be so quick to bash house music....Mike Paradinas and artists off the deFocus label all use house elements.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-09-05 03:46 [#00379626]
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i dont liek house music. i cant help it, but i dislike it coz itshouse nto coz its mainstream.
i still love the chemical brothers, but their new stuff isnt as funky and energetic as the dig your own hole album.
i never liekd underworld much.
i liek fatboy slim even tho some of his enw stuff is a bit crap. some of its still ok though imho.
i dont liek the enw prodigy much either, but at east theyre doing their own thing and not jsut making dance.
PS i do go to raves and listen to dance music and stuff.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-09-05 04:02 [#00379637]
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yeh... a lot of bands have recently been loured by the CC...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-09-05 04:25 [#00379647]
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Underworld were always POP..that started out as a POP/New Wave band...and their niche in Electronic was bringing singing pop brand of pop to Elctronica
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-09-05 04:26 [#00379648]
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I guess yall talking about FRENCH FILTER house or whatever !? But I tellz you there is some great DEEP House out there you should check out.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-05 04:28 [#00379649]
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you all DO have some really warped perception of "pop". by your logic 99% of music seems to be pop.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-09-05 04:34 [#00379652]
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i really like the new song... =) lets all be friends
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-09-05 05:33 [#00379700]
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Yep...if it's not wacked out, clinically insane, abstract IDM it IS considered pop..
Im kidding by the way
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-09-05 05:38 [#00379704]
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I'm glad Mickey mentioned that, that they did begin as a pop-rock band! SOO cheesey!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-09-05 05:39 [#00379705]
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pop = popular music by my standards afx is almost pop. im not saying theres anything wrong with it, i still love afx, but the fact is that he's fairly popular
like you could ask most kids on the street "have you heard of the aphex twin?" and they say yes, anbd most of them would even know his name etc etc....
liek eminem waging war on the pop groups....but he's pop himself.
to me pop is a cross between a genre and a status
ie you can have techno, then techno pop and rap and then rap pop etc...
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-09-05 05:48 [#00379714]
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I'm glad Mickey mentioned that, that they did begin as a pop-rock band! SOO cheesey!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-05 06:16 [#00379765]
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I'm glad Mickey mentioned that, that they did begin as a pop-rock band! SOO cheesey!
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2002-09-05 06:20 [#00379771]
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my friend got the DVD...
heh, if Mike gets it, its gotta be POP!
=]
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-09-05 06:36 [#00379801]
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its funny people bring photek into this... not knowing his intentions in releasing a tech-house record... his roots were apparently in the house scene..and he had become disgusted with the current dnb scene..so he tried to distance himself from it by returning to house..
and as for underworld going pop..yes they did...like nearly 20 years ago
really..aphex could be called 'pop' too..seeing as he's about as well known as underworld, and has a similar sized fan base.. sure his music may not be as 'accessable' ..but that doesnt make him any less popular...because for every person who dismisses it as 'weird noise' theres at least two more who embrace it for the sheer fact the first hates it ...since 'understanding' something others dont always makes you cooler right?
and dont think that aphex releases albums only for himself, disregarding his audience..he has said that he keeps many tracks unreleased because he doesnt think people will like them
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