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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 22:18 [#00331171]
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Being a bit of a lurker on this site, plus having the worst connection known to man, i have not noticed too many comments on Astrobotnia II, which i believe, is believed to be the work of rdj.
Excuses over now, but am i right in thinking that? I have been listening to it for about 5 days solid now and it has grown on me immensely. Every track is a beaut, especially 2 and 3 but i'm still a little on edge about not knowing who it's by. If it were anyone else involved, i wouldn't care, but for some reason with Aphex i simply must know.
What does everyone else reckon? What do you think of it? Is it rdj? Is this a one off style? More to come on MEN? Why the mystery? I don't have Astro III but have number I, who did those? I think it's conclusive that Ovuca did number 1, right, but how different is 3? What are the odds of it being another UI?
Now correct me if i dreamt this, cos i have a vague memory of an interview rdj did where he said that he's released loads of stuff that no one knows was him. This leads me to question why it is then that he releases music at all. I mean he said that he only releases music to earn a bit of dough to buy his kit. I mean he said of the missing mp3 player that that was his pay day. And cos he lost it, out comes drukqs, in case it goes on the net.
Apparently he makes his music for him and his mates to listen to, but why then release his 2 remixes by AFX, when it can make comparitively little money. Analogues Bubblebath 3 is a cut price cd. I know and appreciate that big promotion of albums is probably a real pain in the ass, but he doesn't need to do that.
I'm just a bit confused that's all. Maybe, i suppose, that's the point.
Just one of those things i guess.
Damn that evil genius! Give me more!
Oh, yes, any views on Astro II?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 22:19 [#00331173]
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Uh
I like it
Er....
yup!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-30 22:26 [#00331180]
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Astrobotnia is not who you think it is. Of course parts 123 sound like people you may know, but in reality Astrobotnia is a new artist. Maybe Richard and Mike and Ovuca helped produced parts 123 but all in all, i think that it is the original work of someone new.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-30 22:26 [#00331181]
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I definately think that part 2 is not AFX because he would have done a way better job with it.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 22:45 [#00331200]
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I think its funny that people are not certain on who made astrobotnia. I sure dont have a clue who it is, except maybe some elaborate collaberation or some rdj hoax. I think its kinda neat to be mysterious like that. I dont think that there is anyone on this site who posts regularly that would know who it is either. So I think its best just to be happy that its good music and leave it at that
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-07-30 22:49 [#00331207]
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it is Ovuca, all three parts.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-07-30 22:51 [#00331210]
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astrobotnia part 2 is GREAT. excellent!!!
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 22:52 [#00331212]
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i don't think there'd be an rdj hoaxer on rephlex, eh Mickey?
A new artist, weatheredstoned? Not thought of that? Hopefully so, but i'm still not convinced. Rdj had his grubby mitts in number II for defo.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-30 22:52 [#00331214]
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some of part2 sounded a lot like afx to me, too. but i hear ovuca is a master of the imitation.
i like part 2 least, btw... most of the tracks don't seem to go anywhere.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-07-30 22:54 [#00331218]
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was it released on cd?-part two that is
anyone knows if its still avaliable somewhere?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-07-30 22:55 [#00331220]
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vinyl only.
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-30 22:55 [#00331222]
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steamtank trusts mr phobia...
astrobotnia=ovuca
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-07-30 22:56 [#00331224]
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i thought so
don't like vinyls ill just have to wait for a cd release
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 23:00 [#00331231]
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I always wanted to ask this:
Phobiazero you always seem to have this insider info that no one else seems to have... my friend and I who have frequently visited this site have two hypothesis. One... you are some artist on either mu, rephlex or warp.. and it would explain the inside information and the afx and squarepusher propiganda/information.. or that you are friends with grant or somebody else in high places at a well known label and are just a big fan. Cause I think you were one of the first sites with the Go Plastic info... so I dont know. Could you tell me what kind of contacts you have that are nice enough to give you your info? And if drukqs was aphex twins last release... like SOME people say it is.. :*)
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 23:01 [#00331232]
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Phobiazero - is that a fact or a guess?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-30 23:01 [#00331233]
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hmm i say option b :)
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jingle
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:05 [#00331241]
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astrobotnia=mish mash of various rephlex artists past and present, check out the "trademark" sounds that each artist has put in...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-07-30 23:05 [#00331244]
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too many question, folks.
the ovuca info is from a "reliable" source. i can't guarantee whether it's right or wrong tho.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 23:06 [#00331248]
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jamesa - by saying a rdj hoax I meant something like a bradley strider type thing or like powerpill... sorry for the confusion
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 23:07 [#00331250]
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things that make you go hmmm.......
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-07-30 23:09 [#00331252]
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do i look like an idm superstar? don't think so.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 23:14 [#00331261]
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you could have taken a picture of your uncle or a cousin.. i mean the internet is very mysterious like that. But by saying that Astrobotnia IS Ovuca... and then saying that : "I cant guarantee whether it's right or wrong tho" it makes you wonder.... sorry to piss you off or anything like that
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 23:16 [#00331263]
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in an intreview with aleksi aka astrobotnia in sleaze nation a uk style mag interviewing aleski from helsinki it's pretty clear the aleski they are interviewing is the same aleski perala from helsinki that also uses the ovica name and the same aleski perala that has been preforming astrobotnia tracks across europe and america all year (i''ve seen him 2wice in london).
so stop guessing and accept it.
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 23:20 [#00331270]
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Ah, mickey, yes, i see now.
OK, so what about those pics that were up on the rephlex site. I can't quite remember but wasn't there more than one person in them? I really don't think they're all by one person.
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 23:29 [#00331288]
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So... who were those pics of?
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 23:30 [#00331291]
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Phobiazero? Any ideas?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-07-30 23:31 [#00331292]
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I have to agree with you there jamesa
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-30 23:36 [#00331296]
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I always that it was ovuca with some help from friends..
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-30 23:48 [#00331311]
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Do you reckon we'll ever know? Can someone who actually knows just tell me?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-31 00:51 [#00331363]
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if astrobotnia is a new artist there'd be interviews with him and writing and production credits on the albums. speaking of interviews, how come no interviewers have asked ovuca point blank about being astrobotnia? are journalists that uninvolved in idm that they're unaware of the whole controversy?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 15:08 [#00331879]
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christ - as i said earlier which you all plainly ignored cos you so want it to be more intersting or you are bored or something - the english mag sleaze nation interviewed astrobitnia in their last interview - he was named as aleski from helsinki ie ovuca- i' and thousands of other s have heard him play these tracks - there is even one on the warp tour comp - a tour he appeared on playing these tracks - noe fuckin lay it to rest for christs sake
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-31 15:31 [#00331917]
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Why Astrobotnia is NOT Aphex:
1. Aphex JUST released Drukqs, he said it himself that he's not putting out another album (for a long time)
2. Part 2 is NOT his style. Part 2 is not even the best of the 3. If you listen closely you'll realize its not him. Why you ask? Take notice that in all 3 parts the drum patterns all sound alike. Richard would not use the same style drum sequence for all those songs.
3. Astrobotnia is BORING when compared to Richards other work. Had it been his own stuff in its entirety it would be way more involved.
4. Netlon Sentinel is right, a lot of the songs dont go anywhere, thus proving point # 3 even more.
5. Lack of emotion in part 2. There are no real good melody's, chord changes, etc. Its mostly stacked rhythms IMO
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Asche XL
on 2002-07-31 15:59 [#00331951]
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I'm new to AStrobotnia. I just got all three parts. Amazing. Simply.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 16:00 [#00331952]
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how long did that take you to think up - aphex isn't ovuca - ovuca is aleski perala who is astrobotnia
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 16:02 [#00331954]
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these are also opinions rather than indications that it isn't him based on deduction and factual evidence ..
are you thick or something?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 16:03 [#00331955]
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these are also opinionsbased on preferences of taste rather than indications that it isn't him based on deduction and factual evidence ..
are you thick or something?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 16:05 [#00331957]
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you are also trying to second guess an artists style through aspects of his previous music - as you aren't the artist who are you to say what an artists style should be ?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-31 16:59 [#00332032]
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which astrobotnia track is on the warp magic bus cd?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-31 17:29 [#00332087]
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everyone - the satan is our pal thing
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-31 23:17 [#00332620]
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all i was saying astrid, was that firstly i was unsure of who it was as the last i had heard, there were rumours that it could be aphex on Astro II. I had no factual evidence when i posted this. I hadn't read any interviews and what with those non revealing rephlex pics, left the whole astrobotnia II thing in a small cloud of mystery - as some may and have said, it does sound a bit like rdj. I accept what you said now that they are all ovuca, but no need to get pissy. Christ.
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2002-10-27 09:45 [#00418385]
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Does anyone have the tracklisting for Astrobotnia part II?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-10-27 10:19 [#00418401]
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A1 untitled 04:54 A2 untitled 03:45 A3 untitled 04:30 B1 untitled 04:31 B2 untitled 04:53 B3 untitled 04:50
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-27 10:20 [#00418403]
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it is so obvious that astrobotnia is ovuca, any ovuca fan will tell you this
please please stop asking this!
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-10-27 10:36 [#00418418]
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-27 11:19 [#00418439]
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thanks flappy.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2002-10-27 12:35 [#00418461]
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On part III there is a song called "I am Mr. P."....... can you see? Mr. Perala.......
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