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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 02:38 [#00267231] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | circumsized = handicapped? 
 j/k
 
 i have a 100% fleshed penis with foreskin. why do so many
 countries cut pieces off their baby's penisis? how cruel!
 =0(
 
 how does this affect you? well...for once you can't
 masterbate too well without getting your dick slippery. and
 it's hard to piss without getting it all over the floor, but
 maybe you've devloped a technique to prevent that?
 
 WHY do they even do it? 'coz it keeps your penis more
 clean?? (that's what they say) and well it's a tradition
 among jews aswell.  it's unneccesery, the cleaning bit is
 not a problem at all, you just have to take regular baths
 like everyone else.
 
 so i ask you my fellow aphextwin.nu mb member, are you
 circumsized and what are you thoughts of this matter?
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2002-06-15 02:44 [#00267232] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | no I am not... nowadays the only real fact is that by circumsizing you avoid problems when having sex, such as
 those cases in which the affected cannot take the skin back
 (know what I mean: phimosys)
 
 
 
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         |  Ctrl Alt Del
             from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-06-15 02:51 [#00267234] Points: 2190 Status: Lurker
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 | Alot of woman in 3rd world countries have their clitoris removed to reduce their sexual pleasure so they wont cheat
 on their husbands.
 
 Its wrong, very wrong.
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-15 02:53 [#00267236] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | I'm not circumsized, and I don't really have ANY thoughts on the matter... it's unnecessary, but it isn't a big issue. If
 certain religions want to do it, or parents want to, I won't
 protest.
 
 The WOMEN being circumsized, that's just sick.
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 02:56 [#00267238] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | well... 
 for awhile it was a cleanliness thing... but its no longer
 and issue, cause we live in a time where we shower alot and
 stuff.
 
 i am circumsized, but only because the doctor did it without
 asking my parents. i went in for an operation when i was a
 baby, and he said "i circumsized him for ya too"
 
 man, my mom also killed him
 they almost sued him
 
 id like my foreskin back... just cause no one asked me
 
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 02:57 [#00267239] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | *almost 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 02:58 [#00267242] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah well, but why don't they wait until you've reached the age when you've matured enaugh to make you decide wether you
 want it or not? I wouldn't like anyone to just decide to cut
 off pieces of my body without my permission.
 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 03:00 [#00267244] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | they should have sued him, he had no right! is he insane?!? 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:00 [#00267245] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah, well... i dunno 
 my parents planned on having me keep it
 
 fucking asshole doctor... he even botched up the operation i
 went in for, and had to get it redone
 
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:00 [#00267246] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah, im not sure why they didnt... 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 03:01 [#00267247] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | makes me think of that character played by Billy Bob Thorton in the movie 'U-Turn'. I fucking hated him >(
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:02 [#00267250] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | hmm... didnt see that 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-15 03:03 [#00267251] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | What age ARE you mature enough to decide? And by then, you'd be so used to it, you wouldn't WANT it gone... you can't be
 asking 5 year olds if they want their dick snipped.
 
 
 
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         |  Zeus
             from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:03 [#00267252] Points: 14042 Status: Lurker
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 | true true 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 03:04 [#00267253] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | Ophecks: 5 is way too young for you to decide. I'd say you have to be about 16-18 years old.
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-15 03:07 [#00267254] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | By 16 or 18, I can't imagine ANYONE wanting to lose something they've had for almost 2 decades... I don't want
 any doctor touching my special place. The thought of someone
 snipping down there, and the subsequent PAIN... well, NOBODY
 would be circumsized then!
 
 
 
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         |  Laqeuro
             from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:22 [#00267268] Points: 3167 Status: Regular
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 | i am and i am proud of it :-)
 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-15 03:26 [#00267276] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to AlbertoBalsalm: #00267231
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 | wasnt circumsizion done back in the bible times to stop having sand under there foreskin when old bible types walked
 thru the desert??!!
 
 i believed almost anything when i was a kid.
 
 
 
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         |  diemax
             from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:53 [#00267297] Points: 2040 Status: Lurker
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 | i wish i had my foreskin... actually i'm not that far from the hospital i was born in...
 maybe i can call them up and have it fedexed to me
 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 03:56 [#00267299] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | lol :) 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 03:56 [#00267300] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | two words: organ donor ;-) 
 
 
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         |  diemax
             from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-06-15 03:57 [#00267301] Points: 2040 Status: Lurker
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 | heh- i used to have an obscene t-shirt that said organ donor 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-15 06:30 [#00267357] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm not circumsized 
 
 
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         |  pachi
             from yo momma (United States) on 2002-06-15 06:31 [#00267358] Points: 8984 Status: Lurker
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 | me neither 
 i think they administer such procedures for religious or
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-15 06:33 [#00267361] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | i know some one who recently got circumsized at 17. i guess it hurt when he got his bone on
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2002-06-15 09:25 [#00267423] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | look at this... 
 
 
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         |  plugexpert
             from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-15 09:52 [#00267433] Points: 1073 Status: Lurker
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 | according 2 some sex education program on discovery channel (yes,.I still need schooling on that issue),.people who
 still have their foreskin attached enjoy more pleasure in
 sex then circumsised peeps.
 
 
 
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         |  smokehammer
             from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-15 10:21 [#00267450] Points: 1463 Status: Lurker
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 | I think it has been proved conclusively that the foreskin serves no function in modern human life and is an appendage
 ( like the coccyx ) which is totally pointless. The sensory
 glands in the penis have nothing to do with the foreskin, so
 basically it makes fuck all difference.
 
 Some people need it removed for health reasons and losing it
 doesn't = a big deal at all.
 
 Its also better done before puberty because getting an
 unwanted stiffy during the weeks of healing could cause
 agony and regression in the healing process, and I don't
 think most adolescents could imagine going 6 minutes
 without getting a hard-on let alone 6 weeks :)
 
 
 
 
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         |  AlbertoBalsalm
             from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-06-15 10:58 [#00267461] Points: 9459 Status: Lurker
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 | ouch 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-15 11:15 [#00267470] Points: 3761 Status: Addict
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 | i'm circumsized...i like it a lot because whenever i see porn w/ guys who aren't, it looks fugly...like a turtle or
 soemthin...
 
 
 
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         |  Laserbeak
             from Netherlands, The on 2002-06-15 12:23 [#00267487] Points: 2670 Status: Lurker | Followup to nanotech: #00267470
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 | Europeans are mainly uncircumsized, Americans probably do it because of their Jewish background.
 
 
 
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         |  nanotech
             from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-15 12:42 [#00267506] Points: 3761 Status: Addict | Followup to Laserbeak: #00267487
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 | lol, i'm very not jewish...and am very german...my mom had me circumsized due to an expirence with an old firend of
 hers' son. he got a really bad infection, and had to get it
 operated.
 
 in qaballah, circumsizion equates to heaven. that's why the
 jews practice this art.
 
 
 
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         |  Laserbeak
             from Netherlands, The on 2002-06-15 13:22 [#00267520] Points: 2670 Status: Lurker | Followup to nanotech: #00267506
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 | Well, I don't think it's normal that uncircumsized people get an infection. Isn't that like chopping off the top of
 your finger because someone you know had a terrible
 infection on it? Weird... But maybe it's just a cultural
 difference. Respect!
 
 
 
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         |  Ubik
             from United States on 2002-06-15 16:14 [#00267582] Points: 662 Status: Lurker
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 | Americans started the trend to circumcize most Christian boys, just after they were born, around a century ago (maybe
 late 19th century-ish)... the vague "sanitary/health"
 conditions excuse is commonly used... but the REAL reason
 (they didnt really like to openly talk about sexual things)
 was that psych doctors thought that circumcizing would make
 boys stop masturbating so much, because it would not feel as
 good... because they thought that daily masturbation turned
 men into perverts and criminals, and the churches thought if
 the penis had less feeling guys would stop being obssessed
 with sex so much.... which suppossedly leads them to a life
 of sin....
 ....IT DID NOT WORK!  they cut off my foreskin for nothing,
 the bastards!
 
 American christians would never intentionally imiatate Jews,
 they just thought they were making the world a better, less
 perverse place, the fools...
 
 
 
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         |  Zephyr Twin
             from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-15 16:18 [#00267583] Points: 16982 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | I'm not jewish and i'm circumcized, in America its more of a cleanliness thing I guess, because most people here get it.
 But I agree w/ nanotech on this one, I think uncut dicks are
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         |  Ubik
             from United States on 2002-06-15 16:26 [#00267588] Points: 662 Status: Lurker
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 | http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/shorthis.htm 
 look at this page....
 
 
 
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         |  Ubik
             from United States on 2002-06-15 16:30 [#00267589] Points: 662 Status: Lurker
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 | 1888: 15% of the U.S. male population circumcised ... "A remedy [for masturbation] which is almost always
 successful in small boys is circumcision. The operation
 should be performed by a surgeon without administering an
 anesthetic, as the pain attending the operation will have a
 salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected
 with the idea of punishment." John Harvey Kellogg [the
 breakfast cereal tycoon], Treatment for Self-Abuse and Its
 Effects, Plain Facts for Old and Young, Burlington, Iowa: P.
 Segner & Co. 1888, p. 295.
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-15 16:36 [#00267592] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm fully intact and I couldn't believe it when a non jewish/muslim american told me most were circumcised and i'd
 be seen as a novelty in the US.
 
 I don't see the need to have it but I don't see the need to
 get rid of it. the idea that if you don't have one you don't
 need to keep the level of personal hygeine as high is
 sickening!
 
 if its done, should be early IMO, cos it'd fuckin cane at
 18!"
 
 
 
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         |  nene
             from United States on 2002-06-15 16:39 [#00267594] Points: 1475 Status: Lurker
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 | I'm american and circumcised. sometimes I wish I hadn't been, especially when I look at how much lotion I have to go
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         |  Smyrma
             from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-06-15 17:12 [#00267612] Points: 2478 Status: Lurker
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 | I am circumcised.  I'm kinda glad because most men in the US are (I think!) and I don't wanna creep out any of the
 women..
 
 What do the ladies think about this issue?  Haha
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-16 09:34 [#00268521] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | interesting discussion. i'm not circumsized either and i was shocked to see how many foreskin brothers i have here on
 this board. nice turnout. the only advantage to having any
 skin cut off is ladies seem to prefer the look. otherwise
 it's better for your health and sexual performance to have
 everything in tact.
 
 
 
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         |  Cabbog
             from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-17 01:31 [#00269525] Points: 2294 Status: Regular
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 | *ahem* Actually, circumcision started when God commanded Abraham to
 have it done to his people and their descendants.  It's
 original purpose was to serve as an emblem; a mark on the
 loins of Jewish males differentiating them from all other
 men of the earth as God's chosen people.
 
 ...In other words, despite the fact that neither of us were
 properly circumcised, everyone on this message board should
 bow down and supplicate Opecks and I.
 -Bring me all the naked women my poor eyes can handle!
 
 
 
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         |  Cabbog
             from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-17 01:37 [#00269529] Points: 2294 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00268521
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 | Women prefer the look of an uncircumsized penis? I don't understand how anyone could favor an ugly pink scar
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-17 01:49 [#00269549] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | I'm not jewish and i'm circumsized. 
 
 
 
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         |  Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 01:55 [#00269564] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cabbog: #00269529
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 | "Soft retractable sheath".... 
 That's a new song title for my band!!!!!
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-17 02:13 [#00269585] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | ''everyone on this message board should bow down and supplicate Opecks and I''
 
 Indeeeeeed! But spell my name right!
 
 Soft retractable sheath... heheh...
 
 Yeah, funny how I hear girls are more attracted to cut
 dicks, I don't see what's wrong with mine, it's adorable.
 
 
 
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-17 02:34 [#00269591] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
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 | im not 
 i only found out recently that its actually very popular to
 be circumcized in north america!
 
 i agree about the cleanliness thing... we're clean enough
 these days, what with showers and soap and all
 
 btw, the thing about aids:
 the skin on the inside of the foreskin apparently is very
 thin and whimpy and stuff (like HIV) can actually pass
 through much more easily than other places...... thats why
 statisticaly circumcized men in africa have lower chances of
 getting aids
 (i saw a documentary about it a few months ago)
 
 
 
 
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         |  afxNUMB
             from So.Flo on 2002-06-17 02:36 [#00269595] Points: 7099 Status: Regular
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 | Why are BOYS circumsized, not people. I wouldnt know and wouldnt care, I just wouldnt want to be sucking some guy off
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-17 02:39 [#00269597] Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to afxNUMB: #00269595
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 | so why do GIRLS find circumcized penises more attractive? 
 (quite frankly i dont nkow how u can find ANY penis
 attractive..... they're hidious things)
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-17 02:39 [#00269598] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Followup to afxNUMB: #00269595 | Show recordbag
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 | Choke on his foreskin, hahahaa!!! It's not THAT bad, jeez... I think us uncut guys have a bad reputation.
 
 Remember, soft retractable sheath, that sounds so nice and
 comfy.
 
 As for the bad resistance towards AIDS, my advice is not to
 fuck people with AIDS.
 
 
 
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