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           umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:25 [#02615375]
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oh man, that's bad news
  rest in peace meme twin brothers
 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:30 [#02615377]
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RIP, unfortunately they had a history of questionable  decision making, but don't we all! 
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:33 [#02615379]
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im triple jabbed man because  i dont want to fucking die
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:38 [#02615381]
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Yeah likewise, more like I don't want to spend months in  hospital with a tube rammed down my throat then die
 
  I mean maybe Big Pharma are going to produce jabs every year  for the rest of my life but I assume there are enough people  with good will/conscious in the medical/research industry  that this a legitimate thing, either that or listen to the  likes of Right Said Fred/Bogdanoff Twins  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:40 [#02615382]
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I think some experts are saying though that COVID is a lab  experiment that escaped from Wuhan I reckon Occam's razor  says its most likely, a City that has a massive Virology lab  where they study Coronavirus being the source, well that  seems really likely to me
 
 
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:41 [#02615383]
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i dont get the need for covid passes though jabs, yes, id card, no all i see on twitter and facebook is  pro jab, pro id card or  anti jab, anti id card i believe the virus is real but i dont like to see the  government taking more and more power over our daily lives 
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:42 [#02615384]
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ive seen conspiracy stories about a lot of heart attacks in  football games and stuff, they reckon it's the jab. i dont  fucking know.
 
 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:43 [#02615385]
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Maybe I'm being dead naïve and its some sort of shadowy  effort to thin the heard/control the populous but scientists  have been saying for decades this was going to happen we  were overdue for ages, Its lucky its not a worse one 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:44 [#02615386]
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Yeah Im pro vaccination but anti ID Card
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:46 [#02615387]
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yeah my gfs cousin got blood clots on his lungs, there is no  doubt the vaccine will have an adverse effect in some people  and might have long term effects in others, but what we know  for sure is Covid will fuck you up for certain so its a bit  of a logical wager to just get the vaccination i reckon. I  think alot of the hesitancy is about the misinfo about the  technology involved in the new vaccines, which doesn't  rewrite your DNA it just provides your cells the programming  to produce the necessary antibodies, well as far as I can  tell  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:51 [#02615388]
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No doubt the board of pfizer/moderna etc.. can't believe  their fucking luck 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:56 [#02615389]
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What really made me get the jab was that my brother has a  work college who had 3 family members die of COVID early on  in the pandemic, 
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:04 [#02615390]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59853848
 
 
  
         
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             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:07 [#02615391]
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David Icke and his son make shit loads of money from this  conspiracy circus. I know he was right about Saville but  even a stopped clock is right twice a day, he had less  credibility than a used tea bag when he said he was jesus on  Wogan  
 
  
         
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             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:07 [#02615392]
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:17 [#02615393]
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wow the david icke page on wikipedia is really long now
  lizard people
  for me the old testament is truth
  for him lizard people is the truth
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:23 [#02615394]
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Yeah its extraordinary how different people envisage the  world reality isnt it. Suppose it would be boring if we all  thought the same! 
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:24 [#02615395]
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trying to dwell on an objective reality, like a  hyperobjectivity is too difficult for one person alone to  handle.
 
  i see icke didnt do well in school, just like me, he  probably spent his whole adult life trying to catch up like  me, trying to work out what reality is. he's not really  qualified to be a spritual leader of any kind, so it's a  shame that he has so many followers 
 
  
         
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           umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:27 [#02615396]
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if i had a bunch of half educated followers believing  everything i said without questioning anything i would  cringe every second of the day.  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:28 [#02615397]
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We are all just trying to make sense of it the best way we  can i reckon. He has definitely made a career out of it  though  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:29 [#02615399]
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           kei9
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anyone who tells people what to think is self delusional i  think, or a fraud.
 
  the whole "forcing people to vaccinate" thing is ridiculous  and wrong. I personally think is moronic not to take the  jab, but I wouldnt like it enforced on anyone. freedom is  too limited already 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:06 [#02615402]
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yeah 100%  i think it sets a bad precedent, cos yeah say I  agree with being forced to be vaccinated, I might be forced  to do something I don't want in the future, You shouldn't be  able to force people to do something against their own will,  its too authoritarian and oversteps the reach of what a  government should be able to do  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:11 [#02615403]
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Having said that if this disease had a really fucking high  death rate im not sure mandatory vaccinations would be  unavoidable, i dunno depends on how much import you put on  personal freedoms, versus other people snuffing it, its a  tricky balance   
 
  
         
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             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 18:16 [#02615404]
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>its a tricky balance 
  yeah medical doctors tend to be quite bossy by nature. i  wouldnt like to be governed by a whole government made up of  NHS workers. they would ban everything nice and make stupid  laws banning computer games.
 
 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:23 [#02615405]
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yeah I must admit I avoid doctors and hospitals at all  costs, 
 
  Talking hypothetically if there was a diseases that killed  everyone who was unvaccinated would it be worse to let them  die of their own choice and infect immune compromised  people?  or force them to take a vaccine they wanted. You  could say its people who are ill with cancer and  immo-compromised don't have a choice either
 
  I'm playing devils advocate by the way, I dunno what the  answer is, although im totally against ID cards and  infringing privacy and your own bodily choices in general  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:24 [#02615406]
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I mean i wouldn't have liked to have been forced to take a  vaccine  
 
  
         
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           umbroman3
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yeah imagine what will happen in america if the democrats  force everyone to get the vaccine. gun nutters all over the  place + anti vax conspiracies = civil war. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 20:53 [#02615412]
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its amazing how sort of similar to the Taliban they are with  their flags and offroad vehicles, yeah i think in America in  particular it would be impossible to implement  
 
  
         
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           umbroman3
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david cameron's friends in government used to call the rest  of the tory party the turnip taliban 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 20:57 [#02615416]
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now add the factor economy into the mix and you will find  yourself in the awkward position politicians are in now. the  economy that is at stake depending on what measures you  take. the amount of personal fates involved losing it all  due to the pandemic with the measures to save the most  people already set fire on a huge mass of very troubled  people. i really fear what madness people might get into. 
 
 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 21:00 [#02615417]
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yes, which would further progress cutting rights and nurture  the police state. it´s a slippery slope.  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:06 [#02615418]
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           Hyperflake
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yeah its sort of police state vs unnecessary deaths, what  worries me is if you introduce vaccine passports in this day  and age they will morph into some sort of ID/social credit  system, cos when governments get more power over the  populace they never give it back  
 
  
         
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           umbroman3
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:12 [#02615421]
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yeah a cabal of suited vermin dispatched from Bomb bays like  an cold war experiment 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:15 [#02615422]
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           umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:19 [#02615423]
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 21:21 [#02615424]
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we´d need to burn the cards once the pandemic allows it.  ^^
  chances still are the virus will be endemic but mostly  harmless. 
  now i´ve learned about the social credit system in china,  but people all over the world are way too sane, spoiled or  stubborn to take that shit. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:23 [#02615425]
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yeah hope so to both your points, i know one thing id never  accept an a social credit ID card, id rather be ostracised  from society completely  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:24 [#02615426]
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           umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:27 [#02615427]
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i think the next step is chaos. chaotic fighting all over the world. small wars, big wars. starvation. disease.  it could last a long time. to me the virus is the beginning of that for us. lots of places in the world have been going through this  already.
 
 
 
  
         
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           umbroman3
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i said before we could be the next starving refugees,  desperate to get to a safe place
  that could happen sooner than you think
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:37 [#02615430]
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           umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:51 [#02615434]
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there will always be an xltronic
 
  
         
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like even if you jack out of the matrix that is life, there  will still be a xltronic website with forum 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:52 [#02615436]
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I wish I could log out of life for a few years and then  press resume, that would be nice 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 22:11 [#02615438]
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yes, please maybe we could orbit around a black hole for the night. not too long though, we all saw planet of the apes and time  machine 
 
  
         
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           ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 22:17 [#02615441]
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i wonder how long we could run on reserves given a total  trade breakdown. most of the food we have in personal long  storage isnt suitable for a real meal and could be consumed  within two or three weeks. could be tooth and nail pretty  fast.  
 
  
         
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