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there were Machinedrum preset sounds in Untilted too (i can very easily identify some preset hihats in there) as much as i do agree that preset raping is rather ghey, i would never accuse autechre of such a thing. if they've used a preset in a track, i would come to think of it as more along the lines that they actually like that timbre rather then just using a preset for laziness. although that of course could be the case, but until rob or sean come forward and say so, you'll be none the wiser as to whether they used it because they like the sound, or if they were being lazy. are you gonna flame in the direction of anyone who owns a 303, or an 808, or a 909 and hasn't hardware modded it so you can do more than what the standard controls allow? or are you gonna flame towards someone who uses a guitar without any form of effects pedal? am i talking bollocks? quite possibly yesnomaybedefinitely |
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it really doesn't matter if it is presets or not - some md sounds are quite similar anyway... and anyhow, one thing is really important > no rules. (so as long they don't start to make cheesy covers I can live with some lazy md-sounds here and there - the massive overflow of music is nice and raises the chance of finding some decent tunes...) |
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God forbid anyone should just listen to the music. |
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oh i thought i was supposed to masturbate to the motion of my speakers while it was playing? |
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I think he means that as Autechre had some involvement in the physical development of the machinedrum there is the possibility they developed the sounds they are using and Elektron have also included them as presets on the unit. |
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I would also like to add that there is nothing wrong with using presets. Most traditional instruments have only one preset sound, it's how you arrange it that matters. |
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autechre wasn't involved in the development of the md, but sean have made a commercial-interview on the elektron site... |
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stfu ecnadniarb is autechre he even owns the website for christs sake don't question his words! lee i love you |
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yay for my crappy html knowledges |
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Well maybe I just invented the fact autechre where involved in the development but I will add it to the website and then it becomes a fact! |
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ah, way to go! :) |
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I like what Paradinas said about it. So do you consider the use of presets as being a bit cheesy? No, I use presets as well, if they’re nice (laughs). I like some cheesy sounds; I use both. I don’t like to prefer one to the other. People who say “no presets” can be fucking boring bastards as well as people who just use presets. I mean I used a lot of stock D50 sounds on some of my tracks as well. If it works, use it. It’s the musical ideas that need to be interesting(emphasis mine) and I think there are really good tracks using stock D50 sounds, I’m not talking about mine. But in terms of recognising the synths, I could programme it as well, but I’m not prejudiced against people who use presets (laughs). |
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OT: Paradinas use of D-50's "Soundtrack" Pad on "Daytime kiss" is nice and oh so romantic... (a great cheesy springtime track :D ) |
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one time i used a preset |
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tankakern is now perfect the 2 minute bell interlude as well. omg |
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perlence subrange 3 is one of my new favorites of all of this quaristice release mayhem. |
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I never said they did, I didn't even imply it. Read my post again. What I did imply was that I don't get why it matters that they use presets (or not). Does every little sound they make have to be self-made to make it special? How about using whatever you find to make cool songs? What Mike said :) I think you're the one who thinks (or thought, so it seems) the boys infallible. And reading that over and over again in your posts is pretty annoying, yes. |
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Furthermore, to criticise artists for what they release or what kind of music they make is rather silly in itself. There is no point to it. |
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guys.. if someone uses presets, its their problem not yours. in fact its anyones problem depending on who listens and how they react. if ae have ever used a preset (which im 99% sure they have, i mean name one artist that hasnt used presets), then they are at the mercy of whatever listener doesnt like presets, and recognizes it as such. some people strongly dislike presets, i dont really understand why, but hey, its their opinion, and i respect that they dont want presets in their favorite music. im of the sort that thinks the end product is more important than the process to make it. when you judge a piece of music based on the skill level involved in making it, you effectively prohibit yourself from a good musical experience, and you care less about the music, and more about the technicalities of things. either way, with everything ae has done sound design wise, and everything they have accomplished, why be so relentlessly unforgiving if they used an md preset.. its good stuff and i dont think they deserve that kind of criticism, and not because they are infallible either. |
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My 2 favorites would probably be the PLC ccc, and Perlence subrange 3. |
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lucky you, i can't grasp it all, still. waiting till the whole Quadrange craze gets finished and will listen all those versions alltogether...probably it's gonna cause my brain meltage, but whatever |
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this thread is funny |
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anyone else think it's a little funny that a guy who's gone out and spent a few thousand pounds copying autechre's equipment list, spent a portion of his life creating and distributing fake autechre albums for recognition- is sitting typing on a message board making a point that autechre have used a preset? |
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he did that? jackeroffer i mean |
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With the US government taking over the world there's a danger that irony will become a forgotten concept. Someone has to keep it alive! |
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i was just getting a tad defensive because someone thought i was bullshitting about that bass drum being from MD. stupid argument to get involved in. dont get me wrong, i dont dislike the track because it uses that noticeable MD bass drum, although it doesnt help either. lupus, Im honestly surprised 3 years later people are still hung up about my untilted switch. i suppose 30 minutes can be defined as spending a portion of my life, because thats literally how long it took me to change the name of my own tracks and share them on soulseek. What part of AE's equipment list did i 'copy' ? Is it because i own a machinedrum, i guess only autechre is allowed to use them anyone else who does is clearly copying.... |
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oh i couldn't give a fuck about your embarrassing internet memes. anymore than i give a shit about presets. |
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sorry. didn't mean to sound so aggressive. i'm just not interested. |
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The use of presets is fine is some music, but if your music is all about sound design, and doesn't have too much in the way of harmony or melody, it's a bit boring if that sound design isn't actually by you... Say you use a cool preset evolving pad sound in a non-ambient track. Fine. But if you're creating an ambient track using a sustained note of just that sound, what exactly have you done? In genres like that the excitment is in the creation of beautiful new sounds. I suppose it depends on what you're trying to do. I don't mind how Ae use their sounds - it's their bloody music. But it would be a tad dissappointing if they relied on presets, because to me, their music is all about texture and sound design. Just my two cents. It might be drunken pish. |
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Maybe they use whatever sound they think is appropriate. If the preset had the sound they wanted, they shouldn't alter it. |
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i really hope one of the songs on this e.p. is this gem: |
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thats what I've been going on and on about since quaristice was released. that track is pure gold. |
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Perlence losid 2? could be Perlence losid 2? |
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Yeah. To have a proper release of just THAT, I'd sacrifice every super special whoopdy doo limited exclusive thing they have done since Queersauce first came out. |
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The one track from the Untilted tour that they carried on into the Quaristice tour (But wasn't on the album... can't remember if it was this one) was immense. Pretty much why cant they just release the Untilted tour?? |
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i could have sworn there was an official release with this track. apparently not. thank god for bootlegs! |
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do you (or anyone) have an mp3 from soundboard/good quality? :) |
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check the Montreal set of 2005, 5th track of 8 in my version. you know where to find it. |
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or the infamous Glasgow 2005 set (30:30 in the set). |
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just remembered i have ONE soundboard recording on my harddrive from 2007. found the song. |
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Chenc9-1Dub today hopefully. |
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Hopefully it will be out in an hour or so.... |
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again i like ae ep's better than their boring albums!! |
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I need more almost new Ae. |
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agreed, get to work! |
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the new chec9 sounds pretty good, love "9010171-121" though. nice things going with that track |
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Wasn't expecting anything after it passed 5pm, nice. |
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damn, bleep is sloooooooooooooooow |
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Bleep aint even working here. :S |
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damn, these are short tracks: 9010171-121 4:33 chenc9-1dub 3:48 not bad, but way short... |
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