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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-21 13:13 [#02005670]
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drunkenmastah: the emotion that's within you - ok - like - the "uncanny feeling", theres songs that do that for you, aren't there??
db: ive never had a drug addiction -- and you suck at flame wars
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 13:15 [#02005672]
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:)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-11-21 13:15 [#02005673]
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The radiator lady's song in Eraserhead is pretty uncanny.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 13:16 [#02005674]
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I have no idea what you said there
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 13:17 [#02005675]
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The Uncanny Valley is to do with, in terms your fucking brain might grasp, robots or representations of humans looking almost but not quite like humans, causing involuntary revulsion in those that look upon them. Please. Stop fucking saying uncanny like it means "so fucking good I wanng go bssh pukka bussh buk buk buk buk buk bsshsh"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 13:24 [#02005678]
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ok, let's get it straight out
sure, you can make uncanny music, but it'll be in a very different sense from the uncanny valley stuff. Uncanny music would be music in the sense of uncanny that means it can inspire uneasiness, like in the movies where you have tension music just before the clowin in it eats a baby
if you were to make uncanny music in the sense of the uncanny valley, you'd have to make the music appear to the person listening to it as if there was a dead human body standing in front of him, talking and acting, and I mean that in the literal sense; the person would have to SEE a corpse standing in front of him doing things and speaking to him as a result of your music. and that just.. well, you'd have to be really really good at manipulating sound to do that, maybe even so good that it's impossible for anyone to be so good.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 13:24 [#02005679]
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Cygnus: db: ive never had a drug addiction -- and you suck at flame wars
http://xltronic.com/mb/92410 from as long ago as last month...
Cygnus: im on this speedy shit that's suposed to not really be so harsh - definitely has methamphetamines innit and not the methylphenidate shit-.... ANYWAYS. the shit dont work anymore! and id been relying on it for a quite a bit to get myself around ... drugs are terrible!... never become
reliant on them for your entire life. its terrible... NEVER GET HOOKED ON SPEED. IT'S SHIT
Oh right, no, you don't take drugs then. It's a shame your brain got fried just sitting looking out the window.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-21 13:25 [#02005680]
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are you mad at me :(
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-21 13:28 [#02005686]
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oh that,
i quit that shit as soon as it quit working and i had that bad experience, luckily soon enough to avoid my brain being fried, or my friends kicking my ass.. thank you for being concerned though -- did you mean for me to clarify this to you or were you trying to hurt my feelings?
drunken mastah: i think it is possible that musicians can do that -- especially with the technology we have now
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 13:44 [#02005704]
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I'm sorry Cygnus, I know you don't care, but I'm just having my sordid version of fun. It's an interesting idea but I don't think it's applicable to music in any sense whatsoever. I think you're mixing notions of the sublime with the uncanny.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-21 13:49 [#02005712]
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well, ok, let's say you create a sound that somehow stimulates the nerves in your brain so that you perceive a living dead person talking to you and acting towards you. I don't think you could call it music, actually, as the thing perceived wouldn't be the music, but rather the living dead. At best, you could call it an experience, but that would probably be way more easily achieved by putting music to one of those victorian dolls and even then the music would be something of its own and not the vision of the living dead person.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-21 13:54 [#02005717]
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Real dolls would fit into my definition of uncanny valley. Still, the guys who fuck them are desperate enough not to care.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:04 [#02005929]
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they fall into my definition of general repulsiveness, nevermind the uncanny valley.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 18:07 [#02005937]
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Their valleys certainly look uncanny, or words to the labourous pun's effect.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-11-21 18:11 [#02005944]
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Oh jesus, I thought I'd seen it all, and then I see the half torso for sale. I don't want to live on the same planet as the little Ed Geins who'd come home from a hard day of work and put their dicks in a flat back half torso.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:12 [#02005946]
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great. I hadn't clicked the link, but I still get all the horror.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-11-21 18:13 [#02005947]
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They sell them "shaved only".
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 18:14 [#02005949]
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I like the way the ad goes "It's here.. the half torso" as if there was the market that, yeah, ok, liked the realism of the Real Doll, but due to budget, or perhaps wanting a mutilated body to knock one out into, were eagerly waiting and petitioning for the Half Torso model.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:15 [#02005950]
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that made me laugh, so that's solved. kind of.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 18:16 [#02005951]
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It's not really related, I'm thinking of the fleshlight, but just this second I remembered that last night I dreamt I was walking round with anus_presley and he looked like the guy of the picture doing an "L" loser hand gesture... thing.. in the post your picture.. thread. I'm here too often.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:17 [#02005952]
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actually, it's kind of impressive in its upfrontness, if you will.
it's not as if the "full" version was less of an object. it's just going "hey this might be a real life wom- oh fuck it who cares"
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:17 [#02005954]
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I never visit that thread. much like Peeps' evil Now Playing thread.
is it that bad in there?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-11-21 18:18 [#02005955]
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:doubled over laughing:
dog_belch wins the thread.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 18:20 [#02005956]
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There's some kind of law at play in there that the less anyone wants to know what you look like, and the uglier you are, the more likely you are to repeatedly post your mug in there. It's not pretty.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-21 18:21 [#02005957]
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ha ha!
sounds like The Law of Zilty.
I agree, dog_belch wins the thread.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-21 18:27 [#02005964]
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Some of the more detailed character models in modern video-games really unnerve me. When the models are photorealistic looking yet have unnatural animations, the effect can be pretty ghastly.
I'm not entirely sure how to apply it to music, I like stuff that feels fake or synthetic or whatver. A lot of early Autechre (like Leteral) sounds a bit awry to me. Probably by design, but it's still sort of distracting.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-21 18:29 [#02005966]
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YAY! Quite a pyrrhic victory as I've spent the better part of a working day complaining about the Uncanny Valley and looking at real dolls and got bugger all done, but, a victory none the less. YESSSssss!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-22 10:32 [#02006213]
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I'd actually love to have one of those Reall dolls. I'd just have it lying naked in the corner of my living room. They are just really expensive.
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ULCRESH
from d (Tajikistan) on 2006-11-22 10:47 [#02006219]
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this thread sucks ass
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-22 14:11 [#02006305]
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2 questions:
1) How the is a stuffed animal '60% human'?
2) How can wikipedia have an article on this, then reject one on BIYC?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-22 14:15 [#02006308]
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your mom
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-22 14:19 [#02006310]
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-22 14:21 [#02006312]
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That made me giggle for no apparent reason
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-11-22 14:40 [#02006327]
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-22 16:00 [#02006361]
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oh, wait
this is uncanny
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-22 18:33 [#02006416]
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I WAS DESIGNED TO MAXIMIZE DISCOMFORT
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-29 12:19 [#02009774]
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hilarious
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-29 12:28 [#02009782]
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In so many ways!
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