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Recycle, there is absolutely no evidence that the death penalty deters crime. To emphasise mimi's point, there have been many investigations done that show that in countries where there is the death penalty, the percentage of crime is no lower. If your child got into the wrong crowd at school and sold someone else drugs. Would you want him to be killed? How fucking ridiculous! I'm sure you'd rather give him/her a second chance and get him/her some help to get off the drugs and get better. How can you say if you do "x"you should die..? It's not that black and white. Also, just because it is your opinion, doesn't mean it should happen. |
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Your correct it is my opinion, I will teach my son right from wrong. A lot of parents "give up" or get lazy. In some instances second chances should be given, I agree with you there But if the laws (in any country mind you) were more strict or actually held water, dont yhou think crime would deter ? Im not saying goverment needs to control our lives, but i think you get what i mean. |
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it would because soon there wouldn't be many people left. |
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my opinion is that a quick and relatively painless death is pretty merciful compared to rotting in a prison cell for the rest of your life, so i say no death penalty |
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No I don't think that because as I said, it has been shown that in countries with capital punishment there is no less crime. It's pretty clear to me that the laws in China hold some water and it's not improving anything. How do you decide when there should be some second chances then recycle?! |
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survey says: when they're not black |
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hahah exactly. What if the decision that someone doesn't get a second chance is just wrong?! Too high a penalty to pay if you ask me. So recycle, you agree with capital punishment and also the oportunity to rehabilitate and reform criminals, using methods outside of jail depending on whether it's your son or not? How nice. You will teach your son right from wrong? Don't you think that's what the vast majority of people think they have done? And we still end up with murderers and drug dealers. So yeah, good luck with teaching him that killing people when they've done something wrong is ok. |
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I was talking to redrum about this topic and he came up with a few excellent points that i'd never even considered. "if anything, capital punishment encourages grand crime, in that it instills in the culture of a country the idea that dealing out death to somebody is a just penalty for their wrongs. it also encourages the idea that serving justice is more about revenge than justice itself. i couldn't be more at odds with what recycle has said in this thread. his mentality, which is shared by so many other americans, proves my point. " |
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you'd be surprised how many people over here in the good ol' u s of a just don't give a shit about their kids. i work at a relatively low-class restaraunt and i see this all the time... a lot of the parents that come in just look like they're dragging along a kid or two because they have to, and just let their kids run and climb and do whatever the hell they want and never even try to do anything to make them behave. so i'd say while the majority does try to teach their kids right from wrong as best they can, there are still a lot of kids here that are getting no guidance whatsoever from their parents. the only other places they can learn this are the entertainment media or other kids in public school, neither of which are good moral thermometers. |
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I think we need to ask whether they THINK they are teaching right or wrong, like recycle thinks he'll teach his son. I'm certain that you'd find hardly anyone who'd say. "Nahhh I just let them do whatever. I'm a bad parent cos I don't teach them any morals" |
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i'm not sure about the "grand crime" thing, but i completely agree about the ideals of justice, good point. it's completely true, too- you see people on the news all the time hoping that someone dies for their crimes, like that will make them feel better if two people die rather than only 1. that always makes me feel slightly sick when i hear that. |
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From the mouth of the horse "by grand crime, i meant murder, not grand crime. i got my words mixed up." |
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Its after lunch time, I cant do this all afternoon. I need to get some work done :) Lets all agree to disagree |
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nice one recycle ;) |
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worst thread in a long time, guys. terrible |
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should the laws be the thing holding people back from committing a crime? |
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think that will be the nature laws,like the gravity-but apply to the real scence of our behavior,what should rule the world on future....,yeeeeaaah...nature ruling the things-earth is so sexy and hot..... and the human behavior will be on a nature way of living...(good bye Mc donald)...then life can be tasty and likewarm......BUT!!!! now. humans got the free choice...animals or plants got not this quality. laws now are the reflect of the evolution of this mutant thing called Human History.creo... |
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recycle is the man! plus he's got a fugly child. congs |
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good thread in along time |
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what. |
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this thrread went to shit as soon as SValx and Luminous stupid Aphid got involved, oh and reycle. |
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Don't do the crime, don't do the time. |
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love u too |
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