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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 13:35 [#01935266]
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Reviving this ol´thread with this gem:
Grime
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 13:59 [#01935282]
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In fact, just do a search for "Spring fling dvd" and see all the vids
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 14:10 [#01935297]
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I know i cant just keep posting in my own thread, but if you have to see one grime video to give it a chance, watch this one. Watch it and tell me those beats arent dope...
Check it!!!!!!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-10 14:21 [#01935309]
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Cheers, these are wicked.
Here's a new crew you should check out:
L I N K
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 14:26 [#01935315]
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Thats fucking dope!!!!! Haha
I love his sort of whispering rap style.....
Seems like theres a whole new thing with sort of ironic grime
Pies
That said, if i had been in that train when that video was made, i would have been petrified
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 14:27 [#01935317]
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Theres another one with chickin boi
chicken
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staz
on 2006-07-10 14:28 [#01935318]
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ahahahaa
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-10 14:28 [#01935319]
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Before i go to bed, i sent you my contribution to the pop vibes.. check it!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-10 14:32 [#01935323]
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Cheers, bud.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-10 15:39 [#01935382]
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Article comparing UK Grime to old school hip hop.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 15:40 [#01935384]
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CH CHING!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 15:42 [#01935386]
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nice article!
/me plays his run teh road compilation!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-10 15:49 [#01935397]
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Yeah, it's a great blog. He owns millions of records, I bet he's grabbed a few future grime classics that'll be considered "old school" in ten years time.
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 15:51 [#01935401]
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Hey French Grime >> Lexxcoop
And: Lexxcoop
Plus this: LAZY_TOPIC
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 15:53 [#01935404]
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Woops, second link is BENNY BROKENECK
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 15:54 [#01935406]
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I want more French music man!
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 16:12 [#01935411]
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Different styles:
depth affect
Abstrackt Keal Agram
My Myspace
Rotator
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-07-10 16:21 [#01935413]
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Rotator is french? i didn't realise, i love big booty! great track!
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Dozer
on 2006-07-10 16:28 [#01935414]
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I think but I can be wrong....He is on a french label (Peace Off) though
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OK
on 2006-07-10 17:49 [#01935438]
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I'm not a big fan but i liked the spac hand luc, and spac hand vs amen andrews a lot.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-11 11:33 [#01935851]
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Diggin that french stuff
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-07-11 12:08 [#01935867]
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eh
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-07-24 01:46 [#01942151]
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Ey up priest of filth (or anyone else), do you happen to know what the first instrumental in that video is? The one with wiley on? I'm assuming it's east connection but aside from that i dunno, been trying to find it ever since you posted the link. So fucking hot.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-24 01:58 [#01942152]
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I'm sorry, i dont know. Its certainly dope! Theres this other one in that clip (around 2:50) with this brutal 909 snare. Ultra simple, but i love it.
Maybe Roll deep crew?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-07-24 03:52 [#01942191]
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Yeah that's a big tune too, reminds me of dj mondie's production, almost nowt there but it's still proper dirt. You heard anything by benga? More to the dubsteppy end of things but apparently he's doing some beats for alphman's album (his brother i think), sounds sick. Check out "all dance" at his myspace if you can get it working, won't load here. There's a clip up at alphman.com too.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-24 04:08 [#01942193]
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I think myspace is down at the moment.
But i will try to check it out when its back on.
If you have limewire, try checking out "Skepta:Single" Brilliant!! A bit more happy vibe here, odd production. I like it.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-07-24 04:21 [#01942197]
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Will see what i can find, never really bothered with limewire much. I know DC++ used to be good for grime but it's gone downhill lately from what i hear. Skepta's been doing some good stuff lately though, duppy is a massive track. Probably my favourite of the last 6 months or so, actually. Between that and dj spooky - joyride anyway. Or wiley's verse on the slew dem grime ep. Or one of blackjack's newer ones. Or something else. Um. Yeh.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-24 04:30 [#01942198]
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But its one of the bad things about grime, a lot of good stuff i can only find in shit quality, and a lot of times if you hear something great, its near impossible to find the track again.
I saw a live show with Kano (And ghetto, i found out later), and it was the dopest shit i've ever seen. Then later, his album came out, and NONE of the beats he used in the live show was on the album, and i thought the abum was very dissapointing. More straight forward hip-hop than grime. They do that a lot, i later found out, use other peoples beats, and spit their own shit over it.... very odd
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-07-24 05:01 [#01942209]
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Yeah, grime has got that kind of "riddim" thing going on, i mean how many differsion versions of forward or fire hydrant must there be doing the rounds now? And how many people have done a verse over the top? It is annoying that they're mostly shit quality on p2p though, all radio rips and stuff. But there you go, it's "underground", ha ha.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-24 05:07 [#01942215]
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Yes. I never quite got that whole "riddim" thing. I guess in that way, its similar to dancehall, but i never got people who says its musically similar to dancehall. I think they sound very different.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-07-24 08:03 [#01942303]
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Crazy titch in jail???
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-25 08:18 [#01942911]
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is artful dodger grime? i still don't get this shit.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-09-15 11:03 [#01971344]
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mmmmmmyeah
I'll probably just be talking to myself here, but by christ, how good is "dem all shot" (apart from tinchy stryder sounding like a total mong as usual, but please overlook this) I didn't even know dj maxximus had his own label but there you go, supposed to be a new ed dmx 12" out soon too. LIKE, CHOONZ, M8
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-15 19:05 [#01971699]
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Tinchy Strider: Still fuckin' love "World gone Crazy". Hope he's ok. These guys should have blown up as pop stars instead of Pete Docherty et al.
What can I say? This cuntry sux.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-15 19:53 [#01971719]
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I like the track Milanese did with Virus Syndicate 'Dead Man Walking'
Grime seems like slower rap with faster vocals and a British accent.
I prefer slowing down DTL so that I dont have the really bad rappers interrupting my listening pleasure.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-09-15 23:04 [#01971810]
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All of these groups think they are American.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-16 04:17 [#01971890]
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Sounds dope
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npoke
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-16 12:01 [#01972058]
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I think the scenes slowly dying out. There are too many crap mc's flooding it and i havent heard a great track in ages.
a few videos (some oldies)...
Tinchy Stryder "Underground" Ruff Squad "Anna" Crazy Tich "I Can C U" Wiley "Wot U Call It" Roll Deep "Heat Up" Dizzee Rascal "I Luv U" Mastermind Troopers "Storm" Essentials "State Your Name" DPM "Have Some of That"
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-09-16 13:59 [#01972104]
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I'm afraid theres some truth in that. Thanks for the Tinchy stryder clip, i hadnt heard that one before.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-16 19:02 [#01972273]
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Ironically, as Grime dies on its arse, Dubstep continues to get better and better.
Some of the older grime stuff is good though. Crazy Tich Merks Lethal B
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-16 19:07 [#01972277]
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Should be amusing for anyone who has had a wideboy prick of a cab driver lie to them/overcharge...
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 19:11 [#01972278]
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suprised Tricky hasnt tried a grime album.
Dubstep is getting damn good.
Dj Distance is the key. Planet Mu has been releasing alot of Dubstep they have a new blue one on bleep. the song 4 messengers is badass. Boxcutter is amazing as well.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-16 19:12 [#01972279]
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That's bollox, There is an influence from things like dirty south hip hop or whatever in the production, but the vocal style is a mixture of cockney and jamaican most of the time.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-16 19:17 [#01972281]
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Agreed. You can hear a dirty south/crunk quality to the drums in particular (gunshot-like claps, machine gun snares, etc.), but the vocals are very different to the USA style.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 19:20 [#01972282]
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so its a reguritation of rap but with a british accent.
ok I see the difference.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-16 19:27 [#01972285]
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It's not just the accent; it's the clipped, stop-starting rhythm of it and the fact that even though a lot of it's very quick, it sounds nothing like USA speed rappers.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 19:32 [#01972287]
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and your saying it's not the accent?
hmm. If I said it was the dialect would that sway you?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-16 20:11 [#01972311]
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Yes, the dialect is different too (as swears says, more generally more Jamaican vocabulary than in your typical american track). I'd still argue that the rhythm/percussive qualities of the lyrics are different and that these are not directly related to either the accent or dialect.
I don't disagree that UK hip hop used to be just a poor imitation of the american scene several years earlier. I just think that since the popularity of grime, a distinct seperate style has emerged that is no longer just a clone of American acts. A lot of acts seek to distance themselves from the Americans and take the piss out of them.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 21:19 [#01972350]
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I'm just fuckin around, really just dont like the UK ego, I'd say 85% of the Americans on this board really dont give much of a shit and it makes the UK seem like it really has its head up its ass with trying to "take the piss out of" US. It is a minut problem we face with being American. It's not that we're American and we own the fucking planet do as I say or else. It's more like "wow bush should die, you gonna pull the trigger? nah, although prison does have HBO it doesnt have the G4 network and I wont be able to go on Xboxlive ". we really dont care. the UK ego makes it seem like Penis envy. I'm sorry it does.
I am also sorry for that rant. no really I am. 100% uncalled for.
I dont have anything other than respect for you guys btw. the only people I dont really care for are Aisians and Indians, Both dot and feather, and that is only because I am a salesman and even if I drop 1000 dulla off a bed, they still say " Oh, well I thaught you guys were having a sale" and Indians (in my area btw not trying to generalize) hit me up with: " so this is the final price?... yeh ok are you sure? " and they go on and on coming back and forth till I drop it all the way past store cost and offer free shit just to hear them say " well I'll have to think about it" .
oh also: Hiphop/rap and all that really isnt my scene. My GF listens to it in the car but I am more of a Industrial, Abbraisive IDM, Dubstep, (very little breakcore) kind of a guy.
I like distorted vocals and when artists include distorted scat into the track. I dont like it when the artists take themselves way too serious.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-16 21:22 [#01972352]
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" taking the piss out of them" isnt bad btw. competition is good and promotes change. It just comes across as really negative against US. hahaha I'll stop you guys are probably just like me and have one or two dozen things you dislike about what I do or say but deep down we all really dont care either way.
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