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offline optimus prime on 2005-10-30 19:58 [#01765503]
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the books.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-10-30 20:29 [#01765528]
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i really kind of doubt that afx is holding out on anything
that either a) is legimately different than anything that
has been done already or b) is different than anything he's
done and better than other artists who are also doing that
sort of thing already

i have much respect for the man, but i don't think of him as
this infinite fountain of innovation or anything. same goes
for any of these fellers, really.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 20:30 [#01765530]
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yeah, i agree


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 20:32 [#01765532]
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anyway, i'm going to say V/Vm.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 20:56 [#01765549]
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richard is capable of doing it more than anyone else imo.
honestly.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:00 [#01765557]
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he doesn't use only distortion and pitch shift to do his
remixes though.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 21:03 [#01765559]
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yes, how does that make him good or bad? what?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:04 [#01765561]
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it was just a joke.

but what do you think makes him more capable of
revolutionizing electronic music than, oh i don't know,
Autechre, for instance?


 

offline grandma on 2005-10-30 21:05 [#01765563]
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yeah, what does that have to do with anything, huh?!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:08 [#01765566]
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French Guiana


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 21:09 [#01765568]
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first of all his interest in music. i can't put my finger on
what makes him more competent for doing this than autechre,
just a feeling i guess. maybe also something to do with the
fact that he has tried many different things in music whole
autechre seem to stick with one. not sure..intuition :)


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:12 [#01765570]
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i wouldn't say autechre stick with one sound or style... i
don't think that's true at all.

wouldn't it make sense that an artist who is most
experimental (whoever that is) would be the one to
"revolutionize" a form of music? how does competency factor
into that?


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2005-10-30 21:17 [#01765579]
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the people with those innovative ideas in the field of
making those wonderful instruments/programs that produce
electronic.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 21:27 [#01765587]
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i don't know..i don't understand music theory enough to
answer that. aphex composes music and autechre compose
sound..what the heck..jav.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:32 [#01765591]
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that wasn't a theory question... i was just asking you what
is best criteria to use when you want to guess who could
revolutionize electronic music...

and really, there's no difference between composing music
and composing sound.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 21:33 [#01765593]
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ah, in that case it's your inner feeling!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 21:35 [#01765595]
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my inner feeling says v/vm.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-30 21:40 [#01765602]
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ah, great! not a big fan myself but i like to be surprised!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-30 22:33 [#01765616]
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i really appreciate concepts a lot.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-10-30 23:43 [#01765626]
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Plastikman just makes throwbacks.

RDJ only emulates (well) what other people are doing.

Ae makes music that is so focused in its point, that the
only thing they change is subcultures.

All of these, of course, go towards shifting the focus or
evolving electronic music, but none of them will ever make
any drastic change on their own. Well, autechre already
have, but I think they are well past the point of making
anything other than arthouse electronic music.


 

offline sean qunt from BELFAST on 2005-10-31 04:20 [#01765742]
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either someone fairly shit or shakin' stevens


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-10-31 04:33 [#01765760]
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It's all just so easy and simple.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:36 [#01765767]
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i reakon in a few years snares will be REALLY popular even
with no IDM type peoples

like kinda sub commercial


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-31 04:44 [#01765775]
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mexican? spanish


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-31 06:22 [#01765845]
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that could be so, but he's progressed 0% since his first
album so i'd says we can't really expect some drastic change
from him..


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 06:26 [#01765853]
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i dunno i mean we all know snares is the marmite of zilty
you either love him or you hate him. But i can kinda see a
scene growing around him, and a scene thats gonna get pretty
big imo. I know alot of non electronica fans who really dig
snares which i find fascinating, i can just see a new group
of snares fans following in his wake.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-31 06:27 [#01765855]
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it wouldn't surprise me. not with shit taste people have in
music :)


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 06:29 [#01765856]
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haha
i cant deny i REALY REALLY liek snares so im biast. but to
be perfectly honest i dont even listen to much electronic
stuff anymore and i cant really picture anyone moving the
scene forward. To me it feel slike the wave broke allready.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-31 06:37 [#01765867]
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im surprised to see you like all that cool stuff (see
afrirampo) and then snares..just doesn't fit, no no!


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 06:39 [#01765871]
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i ahve a wide taste but of all the big names (BoC, autechre,
afx []pusher) i think snare sis prolly my favourite and most
listened
although william basinski is quickly becoming a new fave
with secede and thomas kohner


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 09:23 [#01765972]
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not only do i agree with taffmonster that vsnares may become
mainstream or popular (which is totally different from being
avant-garde), i will also say that his style has changed in
some ways over the years and i like his music a lot.

maybe if you've only heard his early crap with speedranch
you'd think he sucks. :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-31 09:30 [#01765979]
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that making orange things is nice to get mental to..same as
his other stuff only harsher. i like the harsher songs from
other albums as well, not to listen to at home but to hear
them at club. not my thing at all, music wise..


 


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