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Yeah, that deserves to be written on a banner ad and run for a week in Phobia's banner space. Well said. |
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....And at the end, we all listen to music however the hell we want. |
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thanks rostasky i agree arrogant and obnoxious...not bad for a thursday morning :) |
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oh yeah just because it doesnt take me an extended period of time doesnt mean i dont understand / enjoy / appreciate complex things ! |
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*agreed |
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I think the time has long gone that people who start a label do so expecting not to lose money in the process. it more or less is a given that you will be releasing stuff and losing money, it's a labour of love. which is why many small labels still run small runs of weird not very commercial records, I think. because they don't really expect to sell a lot, if any. |
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plus the market is flooded...its so cheap to compose music and so many people have so much free time it's ridiculous the likelihood of bad music has increased dramatically |
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*pulls out harmonica and prepares to wail* that likelihood is about to increase ever more dramatically... |
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It's so cheap... if it was only the ruling classes made music, stop all this jumped out folk bollocks. |
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in case you got it wrong: lunken. |
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what is this the idm haters club? jeezus some of you board members need to chill out a little, not everything is bad for fuck's sake! |
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I highly disagree with the richard devine comments!!!!!!! |
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you've never heard richard devine play the harmonica. absolutely terrible. |
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Devine is Good/OK, but his style is bound to cause conflict. |
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Hva er det så meningen at vi skal kunne gjøre med dette? Hvordan skal vi frigjøre oss selv fra vår egen umyndighet, og hvorfor er dette så viktig? Er det ikke deilig å bare lene seg tilbake med visshet om at noen andre ordner alt for deg? Skal vi virkelig gå inn for å påføre oss selv mer ubehag? |
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What???????? Share with us all, please. |
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plus the market is flooded...its so cheap to compose music and so many people have so much free time it's ridiculous It's not so much the quantity of amateur music as the tendency of IDM messageboard pals to make mediocre music, "release" it on "netlabels", then have an orgy of dick sucking about how wonderful it all is. the likelihood of bad music has increased dramatically So has the likelihood of good music. |
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So has the likelihood of good music. you have a point fleetmouse richard devine is the #1 harmonica jammer of all time plus i thought i was talking about established acts, oh wait, i was - im talking about people, or releases i dont like - not bedroom electronica just because a group made one great album, or fifteen, does NOT mean their newest one will be any good OR worth buying, as in the BOC case... |
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the likelihood of both good and bad music increases as the volume of music produced increases? stop the presses, xltronic, we've stumbled onto a "profound truth." |
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ha ha so true |
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Every time I come round to thinking "oh plaidzebra, he's alright really" you come out with something like that that reminds me why I would dearly like to see you obliterated by a random, absurd and unreasonably violent act of nature. |
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chris clark? autechre? |
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Yeah - more musicians with more music tools means more music - both good and bad. You've obviously misinterpreted that as a higher percentage of both which is of course impossible, hence your scoffing. But I'm talking about growing the pie higher! |
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mostly: don't even get started cause we're gonna start slinging shit at 99% of the releases that have come out in the last few years. but i guess i just wanted to say that Keith Fullerton Whitman and Greg Davis don't really qualify as IDM to begin with. particularly in the case of more recent releases. and a lot of their stuff is quite good. but i guess if you don't have more than 10 minutes that's not super obvious. and of course it's possible that you wouldn't like it anyhow, i'm not really wanting to judge taste er nothin', words pertaining to pretension get my blood boiling a bit though, especially in the case of those dudes cause they are actually both quite accessible a lot of the time. |
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explain to me again this pie of yours. |
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The use of the term "hype" in the context of idm is just ridiculous. Millions of people, men and women, wank over Paris. Paris Hilton is a hype. Thousand skinny white guys wanking over the reissue of the HAB's isn't. In a community consisting of a couple of thousand members, at most, you've already got a hype when 20 people like an album. Come on. Stop using the term "hype" in the context of idm please. It's just plain ridiculous....and in your head. Cheers |
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reminds me of a post of yours from a few days back: "Pot, meet Kettle." i also told you i was going to cram this in your craw, and YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. |
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keith fullerton whitman and greg davis' music just isnt good...whatever you want to call it...neo-classical, experimental, found sound scape, etc etc etc blah blah blah its just not enjoyable... |
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go to http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/ and read about the 20-ish releases greg davis did of basically recording stuff and just putting it on disc...YAWN...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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yeah no, you don't have to tell me, i know. these guys are catering to people like me. i guess to a very slight degree you could say they really are just making music for their friends... issues are almost never going to be over 1000 copies (many much less), and they are highly accessible (as people). i've talked with greg many times, and keith a few as well. at any rate, their philosophy on music would seem to be a lot different than yours, and that's fine i guess. |
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what you said there really makes no sense, it's just in a samller domain. |
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ok, I have to agree 100% with dog_belch and fleetmouse. As Public Enemy famously said, "Don't beleive the hype." The best course of action is to discover that a new release exists, then ignore almost all of what people say about it. For example "TCH is supposedly like MHTRTC, if you like MHTRTC then you will probably like TCH". That is a useful comment for me, but most other comments don't help. Hype is people's opinions. Make your own opinions in life, don't let others tell you what to like.....Don't beleive the hype. Something doesn't need hype to be dissapointing either. E.G. Pro Agonist by Exile was not hyped at all. I have a few of his DNB 12"s and they are good electronic-ish DNB, but his 'IDM' album I thought was mediocre. So you see, no hype and still mediocre. I just wish people would stop being so critical. buying a bum record is part of life, but is ofset by the 99% of good records you buy, so you appreciate the good ones all the more. |
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I don't know about you guys, but norwegian record shops lets you listen to stuff before you buy it, shouldn't be hard to stay away from crappy releases that way. |
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where did any of u get the impression any one else gives a fuck if u don't like something ? |
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Diskuss musik! |
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This is a messageboard on the internet. |
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no its not its a bunch of pulses coming into my computer thru a wire |
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and you're a knob. |
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ooh!! |
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nice comeback. *claps* |
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what autechre suck what? |
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"Music isn't about the Quest to find The Ceritfiably Best Music, with the internet, music sems to have become some vast Multiplayer Immersive Adventure, everyone racing to gather as much as they can. Music should be a relationship, a flawed one, one with dips, high points... music's personal, you grow with an album, with songs, the more you put in the more you get out. This kind of spastic grabbing at everything and insta-filtering just looking for the "hit", that sounds like some crack addict approach. Appreciate music. " this is very true... honestly, i can't even believe you said this. |
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"nice comeback. *claps*" took u 4 hours to think of that !! |
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Er, actually I was offline. Nice try though. |
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oh yes of course u were is this a "comeback" ?? |
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Actually, you're right. It took me a solid 4 hours of thinking to come up with that. Fuck, you caught me out again. I know not to mess with you, you're a sharp mother fucker. |
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ha sarcastic stalemate! nice comeback. *claps* |
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this is the only place in the world where luke vibert or lackluster can be hyped-up.. if you dont like it dont listen to it. easy as this, these threads are really pointless. |
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i like this |
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Turn it into your avatar then, instead of that bummer wrestler dancing. |
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