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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-27 18:29 [#01763368]
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"it doesn't feel new"
i get you. i guess that's kinda what i like about it. sorta.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-10-27 19:10 [#01763407]
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Dayvan Cowboy is Awful imo. I think the album just sags like a washing line with a heavy sheet in the middle. The beginning and the end are good, but the middle is just really really boring.
IMO
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2005-10-27 19:17 [#01763410]
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oh cheer up
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OK
on 2005-10-27 22:38 [#01763445]
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yeah the album is a bit of a let down.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-28 07:33 [#01763619]
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NEVER
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-10-28 07:35 [#01763621]
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everytime i listen to it i like it more and more. this is good
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Emiko
from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-30 23:39 [#01765624]
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I like this album. Boards of Canada are very famous in Japan. We have a listening club. But I like Music Has The Right to Children most. (But I am careful!) ja ne From Emiko
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 02:56 [#01765678]
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I was a good boy and waited till I had a copy before I listened, listened to it on a good system and I gave it my undivided attention and listened to it three times before commenting on it in any way, but if I had to sum it up in one word, it'd be this: Disappointing. I know there's a lot of background detail and subtle variation, but overall, most of the tracks are far too repetative. I was listening to it with my gf and she made a fairly accurate observation: "It's like your early stuff, not musically, just the way it's done. It's like they had one good idea per track, which they repeated almost constantly and overused it, then padded the rest of the time out with fairly boring/incompatible elements."
Tauntingly, there's the odd synth, backing drum loop or effect that screams "MHTRTC-era BoC", almost as if to say, "yes, we can still do good stuff like that, we just don't want to"
It's nice, but pretty forgettable, and sounds more like Ulrich Schnauss than BoC. I can't see the melodies sticking in my head the way 90% of their previous work did. Don't get me wrong, there are a few good tracks/moments, it's just that it could have been so much better. Oh and the whole thing is mastered really badly. It's EQ'd too high pitched in most places and almost all 'bass' is too gutless. They've also taken the "destroy the sound" aesthetic to heart and also detuned things too far, so rather than a guitar or synth line, slightly warped by time/tape, it just sounds like an idiot with no sense of pitch has tuned them. That guitar on chromakey rainbow sounds like a child picking up a guitar for the first time and trying (unsuccessfully) to play it. Almost all the background detail is far too low in the mix too.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-10-31 03:23 [#01765695]
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maybe you could offer them a remastering then? :D
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2005-10-31 04:07 [#01765722]
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oh cheer up, its only a crap joke
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:10 [#01765724]
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Lets be blunt, you can see why Oscar See Through Red Eye was chosen as the "single"...
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Emiko
from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:14 [#01765730]
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What is Campfire Headphase mean? Is there secret meaning?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:20 [#01765744]
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You could take it to mean the era (phase) in their life when they had regular campfires held for the local enthusiasts/friends (someone who is into something in a big way is often refered to as a "head")
That said, I don't think there is any hidden meaning in it. They seem to want to shrug off the whole mysticism/secrecy/subliminal part of their image and instead focus on making middle of the road, coffee table folktronica.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 04:26 [#01765754]
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ceri, it's meant to sound like that. and the bit about the child playing the basic guitar thing in 'chromakey dreamcoat'... get this: it's MEANT to sound like that.
listen back to all of BOC's music, do you honestly think that the naive tune in 'hi scores' was that way because they couldn't actually play? no of course not. BOC hint at these things all the time but the thing that's good about them is that they never (or rarely) break out into the kind of giveaway show-offy keyboard noodliness that you find on, say, a mu-ziq record.
and the same idea applies to the guitar parts on TCH, it's deliberately dumb. that's all part of why it's addictive, it clicks with you several weeks later when you least expect it. not like the ear-fatigue that you get from a virtuoso player who is playing too much.
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Emiko
from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:27 [#01765757]
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Thats very nice! Are you Boards of Canada expert? But I like mystery. I suspect Boards of Canada. I still feel mystery.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:50 [#01765781]
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I know it's intentional, the comment I made Tauntingly, there's the odd synth, backing drum loop or
effect that screams "MHTRTC-era BoC", almost as if to say, "yes, we can still do good stuff like that, we just don't want to" reflects that. Fair enough, you don't have to make music to please anyone other than yourself, but I'd find it easier to accept if they'd just lost their touch. Instead it seems like a concious decision was made to make changes to the style, even if they're for the worse, in order to avoid reviews along the lines of, "Yes, it's another good album from Boards, it's just that their style hasn't really moved on." I accept that artists should grow and try new things, but with something as perfect as MHTRTC, it's going to be hard to top.
I think the main thing that they seem to of lost is that slightly dark, or at least hint of a force to be treated with respect, mood/atmosphere that was in all previous releases (although most notably in Geogaddi). I'm not adverse to the more acoustic sound, the music itself could be entirely done on a timpani and kazoo and I wouldn't mind, so long as it felt like BoC. Now that there's no sense of menace, it's a bit saccharine, mainstream and light.
So, it doesn't sound, or feel like BoC, apart from the most fleeting glimpses of what could have been. Damn, I might have to resume work on the "BoC Pacifier" folder of rip off tracks I'd been making to help pass the time till this was released, or, God forbid, start listening to Tycho.
It's certainly a grower and I'm sure I'll like it more and more as the days go by, I just think that in a years time, it'll still be the weakest official release by them, to my ears.
Anyway, nice to see you Core, hope you're well.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:56 [#01765785]
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you know i really ahvent listened to this album much. Ive had it a while and i just dont really ever feel like listening to it. Maybe my tastes have shifted
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 05:10 [#01765793]
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yeah hi ceri you too! anyway if they'd done a synthy album they would have gotten criticised for doing the same as last time, as you said. i think the joni mitchell influence cam out on this record and if you're not a joni fan then the connection doesn't make any sense and it just sounds like an arbitrary guitar move.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-31 07:25 [#01765898]
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I love Joni and I'm not seeing the Joni connection. Are there particular songs by Joni you think influenced the new BoC, or is it a more general feeling-thing?
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