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I read the news today oo boy about a lucky man who made the grade and though the news was rather sad well i just had to laugh |
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The beatles weren't loved by everyone. My mom and dad didn't like 'm much. My dad thinks it's music for children when he hears the Beatles. |
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Pink Floyd were late 60's |
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I dont think pink floyd cant compare to beatles... although they are great... but a step behind...imho beatles were fucking innovative... and no one has made music without taking a look to what the beatles did... |
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ok ophecks , sorry i guess that was the wrong thing to say, the back street boys would be more the like monkies, i love the beatles, they are pioneers, i also have nothing againts pink floyd, they rock ,i have there live album |
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uh.. not really: all their most sucessful releases (dark side of the moon, wish you were here, the wall) came in the 70's... (73, 75, 79, respectively) pink floyd were not that well known before dark side.. |
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Laserbeak, of course I don't mean EVERYONE, every single human being... but fans from every single country, every religion, fans of every genre and style, all admired and respected the Beatles. It's not like we're doing with Aphex here, a small group of weirdos into an artist. The Beatles transcended everything, maximum influence. |
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we are getting into a ver subjective territory here...it's kinda my mistake..I was talking about innovation...keep in mind that the Beatles had all the resources, studio equipment, produces and engineers money could buy..while velvets were equivalent of underground..bedroom musicians we have doing some of the cutting edge IDM and experimental music...it's like saying Creed, Linkin Park(plug in any band with access to top of the line 100+ channel mixing boards and studios) with say Tortoise..just not not the same is it.. also wrong of me toname drop velvets cause..their dark scary and haunting tomes to underbelly of NY is as far as you can get from the cheery sunny disposition taht exudes from every Beatles album..it's subgective..I will take Velvets anyday over Beatles |
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What... the White Album exudes CHERRINESS? Have you ever heard Yer Blues, or Julia, or Long Long Long, or Revolution 9? Helter Skelter? Sexy Sadie? That is NOT a cheery album... |
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Heh. "Cherriness" (",) |
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Oops... :-) |
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hmm there was a lot of excellent Pink Floyd full of experiments and innovation before Dark Side..by the time of Dark side they had settled into the turgid and languid hyper balladry |
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Yeah their best stuff was definitely their earlier psychedelic stuff, like Piper At The Gates... |
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yes true... i suppose thier most innovative (by most measures) period was late 60s... most of thier work, and definitly their most popular/commercially successful... well superband period was post 1970.... |
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Fuck the underground factor, sometimes I think the VU are only so revered is BECAUSE they're underground... I can only IMAGINE the accolades and acclaim if Lou Reed wrote Come Together. It would be his masterpiece, by far... for Lennon, 'twas just another day at the office. |
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No way! Have you heard Venus In Furs? That pisses all over Come Together. [Takes shelter behind chair] |
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Pink Floyd are amazing... so slow and plodding and calculating... ooh, baby! |
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hear hear peter |
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Liar, liar, pants on fire. :-) I bet John Lennon could kick Lou Reed's little art-boy ass! En garde! |
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one album does not make a band..and they are not universally popular of the white album, either. As far a the Floyd are concerned I already mentioned elsewhere what i think of their post DSOTM stufff..turgid and languid were not compliments...VU are so revered because Lou Reed is fantastic poet...they had an innovative lineup of instruments, the darkness of their tunes was real and not feigned.. anyway a more accurate comparison would be The Door interms of popularity, album sales and resources etc.. and Morrison and The Doors kicked Beatles's arse all over the astroturf and back anyway (hehehe |
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Ophecks: I think it was a different time in the 60s. There weren't many bands around so if one band became big in the media, a very high percentage of musicbuyers became interested. The same thing happened to Elvis Presley a bit earlier. |
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I like Pink Floyd much more that the Beatles, but I'm not gonna go around saying they are the ecuivilant to Backstreet Boys! They were fucking amazing. |
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Personally I think Pink Floyd > God > Beatles |
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Elvis can not be compared to the Beatles... don't even mention him in the same breath. Weren't many bands around in the 60's... not at all.. the Beatles, the Stones, VU, The Who, the Doors, Zeppelin (69), Kinks, Dylan, Floyd, Cream, Hendrix... yeah, all crap bands if you ask me... the Beatles had NO competition at all. Uh huh. The Beatles single handedly opened the flood gates for these amazing bands. I know turgid and languid were not compliments... they had their flaws, yeah, but still an amazing band. The Beatles' dark tunes were NOT feigned... is that what you're implying? The VU were darker, yeah... good for them... they had their niche and they did it well, and the Beatles had THEIRS. Lots of innovative instruments in the Beatles camp, as well. |
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right on ophecks.. |
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no one is denying Beatles sparks of brilliance..just that it's time to move on..I have about as much time for Beatles right now as I do for Pink Floyd, ot the Door or the Velvets..i.e none there's so much new mind blowing music being created now..just dont have time to dwell that far in the past...heck I am not even listening to my collection of early indusrtial which kicks any 60's bands arse when it comes to innovation... |
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Well, considering I'm here on an Aphex Twin board, talking about all the electronic music I've recently discovered... I've moved on, don't worry... it's not like I'm stuck in a time warp, jesus. But I'll love the Beatles till I'm dead, that's the only band I can think of that I'll love forever. I'll always have time for great classic bands. |
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yeah I know ya have ophecks;)...and everyone know about yer love of beatles and you have every right to it.I think this whole thread was started just to bait you ..weel you survived it with flying colours |
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I know, this thread was made to get on my nerves, but there was some nice discussion on it, so it went well! I'm VERY passionate about my Beatles. :-) Cheers! |
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wow ophecks this is a topic for you |
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Not meaning to resurrect this topic - well sort of .. but what about early Zappa - there was some nutty tape experimentation going on there!! I mean compare Sgt. Peppers, which i am not saying wasn't great and pioneering, but compare that to Zappa's "In it for the Money" - a legitimate piss take (ie. the beatles ok'ed it) of Sgt. Peppers .. seems a lot more innovative or so .. ah .. i don't really care .. just wanted to mention Zappa :) |
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yes yes yes, I know Pink Floyd were late 60's, but mostly the 70's... and The Beatles were still before Pink FLoyd... |
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excellent point korben |
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to me their best stuff happened before the 70's monster hits..Dark Side etc.. |
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Yeah, Zappa is pretty much up there in my opinion |
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Ben :) Yeah . early Floyd kicks late Floyds Pink ass .. eg. Piper.. (recorded at the same time as Sgt. Pepper in Abbey Road studio #2 if i am not mistaken?) And tracks like "Careful of that Axe Eugene" etc... Umma Gumma and AHM - blearh blah blup |
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Ben : :) Flea : Yeah . early Floyd kicks late Floyds Pink ass .. eg. Piper.. (recorded at the same time as Sgt. Pepper in Abbey Road studio #2 if i am not mistaken?) And tracks like "Careful of that Axe Eugene" etc... Umma Gumma and AHM - blearh blah blup |
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oops my server stalled on me |
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:) |
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Ophecks, Jedi Chris and I will tag team you! |
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Seriously though, their music did inspire Charles Manson and Paul Mcartney does look like a sinister cult leader... |
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heh...like sinister cult leader of tree huggers more like |
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Flea: That's just their cover, stupid. :) |
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Paul's a fairy, but I betcha John was a tough mutherfucker. |
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he should be complicated...that for sure...as many genious. ophecks are you listening to the radio show by titsworth??? |
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I wasn't (I just woke up from a nap), but I am now. |
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I need you badly please reach 1000 hehehe I want to share impressions with another wizard and nobody better than you |
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I'll be there soon. Maybe tomorrow? 66 to go after this post here, I'm so close I can TASTE it! |
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I wish the points scheme was in v4, I don't post anywhere near as often as I used to... :( |
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this topic mut die! |
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