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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-30 13:23 [#01581274]
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naw, it's more like i wanna give them a fair shot, because i find most of their stuff takes a few listens to really enjoy... but i feel that way about a lot of stuff...
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-04-30 13:25 [#01581276]
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No, its a well meant effort to meet up..I'm never rude unless people show no respect.
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 13:26 [#01581277]
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Draft was somewhat of a "grower" for me, but i was intrigued
by it first listen, i did not enjoy listening to most of the songs all the way through. Over a months time i begin to appreciate the album much more, and started listening to it more than any Autechre album.
When i first sat down to listen to Untilted, i was in absolute disbelief that it was Autechre. This has never happened before when listening to a new autechre album, because usually the skills and trademark creativity are very apparant immediatly upon listening. I was still in doubt of whether it was really them until Warp put Fermium on the homepage.
As it stands now, Untilted is my least favorite release of Autechre so far, i'd rather listen to Cavity job.
different strokes for different folks.....
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 13:31 [#01581280]
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really? this is the sort of comment that makes me think maybe there was two versions of untilted on cd. because to me, not only does untilted sound exactly like autechre, it sounds like a great continuation of draft. not necessarily "the next step" (like confield to draft), but perhaps a sidestep. a tangent or something. if someone played me the music without telling me what it was, i'd have said wow it's the new autechre, this is great. if you don't like it, that's well and good, but that reaction strikes me as a bit odd, frankly.
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 13:37 [#01581282]
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there are not 2 versions of untilted, besides that fake first leak. I know for sure im listening to the official warp release.
I could see how it sounds like a sidestep from draft, and not the next step. This is probably what threw me off, im always expecting autechre to move to the next step, and innovate further.
When i heard Untilted on mp3 for the first time i thought i was listening to someone trying to clone Autechre's style, like another skam artist. Especially LCC, augmatic disport, and the first minute of Sublimit (sounds like a vsnares outtake) which sound very amateurish compared to most autechre's previous works imo.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 13:40 [#01581285]
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well, i will say that when i heard the mp3's on bleep, i didn't get into it much at all. i thought the mp3s were pretty boring. but to my ears, the difference between the mp3s and the cd is huge. the cd sounded incredible right away to me.
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 13:43 [#01581286]
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The mp3s i downloaded on soulseek were variable bit rate, and indistinguishable from the CD that i purchased from Rasputin records.
Either you have super human hearing, or the mp3s you got were of low quality or not encoded properly.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 13:45 [#01581287]
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and you're running out of ^@^@&^@&@&*(%(%(%@#^@
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 13:46 [#01581288]
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yeah, check out what i wrote one more time.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 13:47 [#01581289]
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ok, i meant to say that i didn't download them from bleep, i just streamed the previews.
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 13:47 [#01581290]
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" the cd sounded incredible right away to me. " <---- what...you do indeed have super human hearing?
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 13:48 [#01581292]
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oh, whoops, i thought you had the full thing. my mistake
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 13:50 [#01581294]
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and if i lived in your town or indeed country,i would join you for a beer,and maybe even a smoke-and i dont smoke
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mrgypsum
on 2005-04-30 13:50 [#01581295]
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well a cd you can play on better systems and such, i only had the leaked mp3s and even they sounded good when i burned them to cd and started playing in the car and on the system - but then i got the original ed and it only increased the goodness.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-04-30 13:52 [#01581296]
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all their oldskool stuff is for wimps and geeks HhHhHAhHhaqekgnqejgnqejgnewgjkwngjen FUCK YOU
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 13:57 [#01581302]
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"This is probably what threw me off, im always expecting autechre to move to the next step, and innovate further. "
+44 472900 5702 573
this is Sean's phone number, phone him now and tell him that. and report his reply.
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 14:01 [#01581303]
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I can already guess what his reply will be
"oh thats because we didnt actually release a new album, its all outtakes from the LP5, ep7, and confield period"
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:08 [#01581307]
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you have actually got two correct numbers in the right places
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:09 [#01581308]
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have You actually made any efforts to read any interviews ? if not then just give this release the faggin time. imagine it's a grower or something. and breath deeply.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:10 [#01581309]
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the 44 ? :) thanks
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-30 14:11 [#01581310]
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I too still prefer Draft.. both that and Untilted do sound better loud though... as do pretty well all IDM related releases. Draft is nice in the car, with booming bass. yes
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 14:11 [#01581312]
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ive read probably all of the recent interviews this what i gathered from reading the interviews -
1) the album is boring 2) they are running out of ideas 3) they say the mp3s sound like shit compared to cd to avoid embarassment
4) they dont like being interviewed 5) they used hardware for this new album 6) they like wearing snowboarding clothes
i didn't gather much else.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-04-30 14:13 [#01581313]
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gather that you're a bellend
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:14 [#01581314]
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and not to forget they hate people like yourself
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:14 [#01581315]
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FO: Do you see much of Rauschenberg now?
MF: No. For me to look at art now would be like Lenin coming back and seeing that everything had become 'radical chic' when they talk revolution. And when Bob wants to do some kind of funky cardboard box it just does not look good on those expensive walls. Don't like it.
FO: You collaborated with him once, though, for the Cunningham ballet Summer Space in 1966.
MF: If you call it a collaboration. It was the most incredible collaboration I've ever been involved with in my life. I didn't see the dance. I just asked Merce to tell me the time structure which I then decided to regulate in various ways, in other ways, and change the structures like oilcloth. If the dance was taking a little longer he would be a little slower. You know Cage's lecture on 'Indeterminacy'[1] ... so it's like an oilcloth but with plenty of material to work with, to either shorten or lengthen. The image of the dance really came from Bob, a conversation I had with Rauschenberg on the telephone, rather than getting it from the dance. Bob told me that the set was pointillistic and that he would use the same colours to paint the costumes. That gave me an idea also: rather than having three scenes going - Merce, Bob and myself - I decided to melt into the decor. So the score is pointillistic.[2]
FO: So that's a direct motivation from an idea of Rauschenberg's?
MF: Yes, he was responsible for me having to decide, should I be more characteristically Feldman, like a kind of velvety back-drop? So I decided to go for sets and costumes. And so it's not a characteristic score of mine. But the ballet looks very beautiful, just perfect, like you get a little speck in your eye and you wipe it away. It makes it even more frontal because you are having all this thing, vibrating there, and then out in front there's the band going. And it wasn't until the dress rehearsal that I actually saw what was going on.
GB: That's fairly characteristic of Cunningham working with musicians and other
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 14:14 [#01581316]
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sorry i forgot criticising of a musical artist results in insults from desperate fanboys.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:14 [#01581317]
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They do seem a bit dull in the latest interviews. Like they just aimlessly make tunes and don't give a shit about the direction of the album or anything much about.
However, I've always enjoyed Untilted and apart from the lack of atmospherics and nice melodies, it's a really fun and enjoyable release. Much better than Draft imo.
thank god hanal's sick avatar was removed!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:16 [#01581319]
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you only found it sick cos you must be a botty basher
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:17 [#01581321]
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oh boy think tonites the nite i get banned
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-30 14:19 [#01581322]
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"Like they just aimlessly make tunes and don't give a shit about the direction of the album or anything much about. "
haha... what's the matter with you, man? they're supposed to write a short story with every album? yeah they *just* make tunes. go see a movie if that's not enough.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:21 [#01581323]
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i just don't fucking get Your point, that's all. are You dissapointed with untitled ? then listen to it just a few months more, that's it.
and a fanboy would just say : fuck off, you're a piece of shit if you don't like untilted.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-30 14:22 [#01581324]
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You really have to go to great lengths to get banned here. People are quite tolerable of things.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-30 14:23 [#01581325]
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haha... what's the matter with you, man? they're supposed to write a short story with every album? yeah they *just* make tunes. go see a movie if that's not enough.
Yup. People need to remember that music isnt made for us but is made by artists for their own satisfaction and enjoyment
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:24 [#01581326]
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bastards took my vagina away
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 14:24 [#01581327]
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what is there to "Fucking get"
im posting in a thread called "i'm not impressed by ae's recent release"
and im not impressed... still confused?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:25 [#01581329]
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"What about the perception that what you are doing is abstract?
Autechre: Some people have this habit of projecting what they perceive your attitude to be onto what you are doing. We fall into that."
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-30 14:26 [#01581331]
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for example - only after 3 years of JAroen almost physically re-designing the board on a daily basis did Phobia go "..heeeyyy.. wait one goddamn lingerfickin' minute.."
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2005-04-30 14:27 [#01581332]
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Incunabula 2 plzkthx.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:28 [#01581334]
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and your very right to have your say in this now very popular thread,but deep down id really like to uppercut you just under the chin,just to put you under for maybe 20 secs
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:28 [#01581335]
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"oh boy think tonites the nite i get banned" - i'm a n00b, could You explain ? :)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:30 [#01581339]
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"Yup. People need to remember that music isnt made for us but
is made by artists for their own satisfaction and enjoyment "
[virginpusher]
ok, now i understand. cheers
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-30 14:31 [#01581341]
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Jaroen had to go way out of his way to get banned. Its almost not work all the work you have to put into it.
hanal: I enjoyed the simplicity of your previous vaginal avatar. Shaved and smooth is always wonderful :)
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:32 [#01581342]
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kinda thinkin ahead,not sure how far things can be took on here,after all they took my vagina away which i found pretty lame
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-30 14:33 [#01581343]
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..if you're into that 10-year-old girls kind of thing..
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-04-30 14:33 [#01581344]
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the trully true : "heh" :)
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jakson909
on 2005-04-30 14:33 [#01581346]
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physical threats on the internet are hilarious you got that upset by my autechre comments? over sensitive little pussy, lol.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:33 [#01581347]
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thank you,after all if a man cant have his vagina,wots the god dam point
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:34 [#01581348]
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lol, I know they just make tunes.
But they seem to underplay the effort or time or construction that goes into their music.
And what's wrong with having other aims in your music, or having things to express through music? Even Venetian Snares explains things like that.
I guess they want the music to speak for itself.
I think with anything abstract, you yearn for an "explination". I have the same attitude towards David Lynch interviews....he too seems somewhat careless and unable to explain why he does anything. But I still love his films.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-30 14:36 [#01581350]
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my wifes kinda older than 10
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-30 14:37 [#01581352]
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Girls shouldnt have hair below their eyelashes because it usually gets waxed anyways.
Most girls (85-90%?) that i have encountered have been completely shaved/waxed. It usually results in happyness because i dont get hair on my tounge. Its more pleasurable to slide your hands down some girls pants and not get caught in some stealwool nest of death.
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