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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-09 13:09 [#01389139]
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no its not. in my opinion there is a fundamental problem when it comes to handling people.
stop acting like a god, walking in on an old thread and then hitting the ban button on people is just a symptom of an underlying issue. but ignorance is bliss, and i do not expect a change in behaviour from you as much as i expect my own attitude to change, or the attitude of the persons creating 'bad vibes' (you certainly have a way with words)
history repeats itself not because there will always be people that come here to fuck up, of course there are always trolls or moaning people in a community. you have to keep repeating yourself over and over again due to your inadequacy handling these people and a lack of feeling for your community.
i will leave it at this. feel free to reply and have the last say, if you must. ill see how this develops, from far away, ill be back whenever. im sure all you can think about is keeping random 50 post trolls away from here, but the atmosphere here took a change for the worst
its impossible to discuss anything with someone like you. does this piss you off, does this hurt you? perm ban me. i think we all realize this is the quickest way.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-09 13:12 [#01389140]
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I dont understand how you can permanently ban someone. It really isnt possible. They can just resurface. Perhaps those 50 people were just one person. Perhaps that one person is still here today.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-11-09 13:31 [#01389154]
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"He hadn't made many friends here, and on more than one occasion has said that electronic music
isn't really his thing, as well as not liking many people on
the board."
if you actually paid attention youd realize he has lots of friends, myself included. If you paid attention, youd also realize, he IS into electronic music, and its mostly because of the FRIENDS he made on THIS BOARD.
And I agree with phob (and not in an ass kissing way) that this has been discussed over and over. Whys it keep coming back up?
Also... he has every right to do anything he wants. He pays for this place, he owns it. End of story really. The idea that anyone thinks he owes them anything, spawns from the same mindset that people use to justify dling music illegaly. The artist doesnt owe you anything... you want to listen? Pay for it. If you want to be on this board, follow the rules.
imo.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-11-09 13:57 [#01389168]
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"you have to keep repeating yourself over and over again due to your inadequacy handling these people and a lack of feeling for your community."
how is phobizero suppose to handle these people? he isn't a fucking psychiatrist. if someone breaks the rules they aren't suppose to get a special treatment. do you really think he has the time and patience to raise xltronic members like little kids?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-09 14:00 [#01389170]
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exactly
RESPECT
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-09 14:02 [#01389171]
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i want to eat some bbq
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-09 14:04 [#01389172]
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i just wanted to make an appearance in this thread.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-11-09 14:19 [#01389180]
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well done
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-09 14:20 [#01389182]
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I said pretty explicitly that phobes doesn't owe a damn thing to us Damn Hungry IDM Fanz. It is his site, and yeh, he can do whatever the hell he likes with it. I agree fully.
Although i may add that the Chrismaster General hasn't made a single music-related comment, or indeed posted in a music thread in his last 25 posts, and not a whole lot before that. Maybe the whole "friend-making thing" was out of line. I'm trying very hard not to get personal here.
I was simply commenting upon the fact that he was a pretty "marginal" (if that isn't too harsh a word to use) member here, and suddenly he's all modded-up. Personally i would like to see moderators who actually know the community inside-out, and actually enjoy posting here for reasons other than banz0ring and deletion of stuff.
I still think it was a bad decision, and it's definitely had a negative effect.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-09 14:20 [#01389183]
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<-- *exits stage left*
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-11-09 14:25 [#01389190]
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well he's from the time round 2001 when phob used to be here every day. he just knows him, i think thats all, really. he is 100% humorless but not a bad person and not on a ego trip
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-11-09 14:27 [#01389194]
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moderating has to be more constant i'd say, there has been too less a few months ago and now everyone's a bit harsh
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-09 14:33 [#01389199]
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Well whatever you think, its a decision you have to adapt to isnt it? :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-09 14:38 [#01389205]
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"What are the people of "outside internet" making of all
this?"
they were slightly bemused by it, then one of them farted and they left the room because of the pungent smell.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-09 14:43 [#01389211]
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What was a joke here before about someone farting, it was really funny, I.... well the search doesn't work and I don't know how productive searching for the word..."fart" would...be. Does it work searching on google for a thing +xltronic. Do you know what I mean, maybe I should just ... try it.... myself.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-09 14:43 [#01389212]
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That seems to be an all-too-common statement lately. I know phobiaman makes the final decisions round here, and i know the mods/admins have The Ultimo Power, and i know that yes, we can bloody well leave if we don't like it, but i still wonder why the decision was made, all personal beef left aside for the moment.
Why now to start all the post-delete, banz0r-orgy? What was so wrong with the board? Yes, there was a smattering of trolling, and yes there were a few obviously nonsense threads, but those minor problems could have been solved with a great deal more subtlety. The trolling has gotten a great deal worse lately as you may have noticed, and the reason doesn't take a genius to figure out.
But please go ahead, say "that's the way it's going to be from now on" and post a winking smiley. Awesome.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-09 14:45 [#01389214]
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I get this
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-11-09 14:48 [#01389217]
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i love you jedi chris
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-09 14:49 [#01389218]
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Thank you for your comments. Your opinion is noted
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-09 14:56 [#01389224]
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*sigh*
Try to instigate some sort of serious debate and all you get is an interweb form letter.
I hope you take what people are saying on board, though. I know i've been a bit wanky to you in the past week or so, and while it was drunkenly funny at the time i see it might have been counterproductive. Just don't mentally label anyone who disagrees with you as a potential troll for future bannage. I'm not telling you how to moderate, just expressing an opinion.
Which has been "noted", apparently.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-09 15:02 [#01389232]
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I have no intention of mentally labelling anyone who disagrees with me as a potential troll. I assure you that is not my agenda. And although you probably will not believe it, I do if nothing else, appreciate your honesty.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-09 15:03 [#01389235]
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you're not very good at the internet, are you?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-09 15:15 [#01389245]
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To be honest, no.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-09 15:24 [#01389249]
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three out of the four people looking in on the internet from the outside think you're a nice person.
the other one says you suck, but I think he feels threatened by your obvious masculinity, the big pansy.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-11-09 18:09 [#01389429]
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from a neautral perspective,reading jedi chris posts, i have to say hes one supremely uninteresting person, having absolutely nothing to say
but try to have compassion, its not his fault
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-09 18:13 [#01389434]
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jedi churchill. a great moderator in the xltronic war against trolls.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-11-09 18:22 [#01389449]
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i think all that longing for power comes from kids that were molested in their childhood
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-09 18:24 [#01389454]
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i shouldn't laugh, but this is getting funny :)
lol
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-11-09 18:25 [#01389458]
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I sincerely hope jedi chris wasn't molested as a child.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-11-09 18:26 [#01389460]
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i was amazed when i heard that hyakusen was getting his master's degree. by the way he acted on the board, i assumed he was around 12 years old.
this 'serious' thread was started by a person who has posted an extremely close up picture of an anus somewhere close to 50 times. this makes me laugh. ha. ha. funny. ha. ha.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-09 18:48 [#01389499]
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I think you are entering a dangerous terrain, and I also think you should not say those things... but whatever... each one deal with your concience
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-09 18:51 [#01389504]
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just so it's clear i wasn't laughing at post [#01389449].
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-09 18:55 [#01389513]
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marcin is 24 i think.
about the number of times i ran into that anus photo
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-11-09 19:03 [#01389524]
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i think it's burned into my retinas permanently.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-11-09 19:06 [#01389530]
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ha ha!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-09 19:06 [#01389531]
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unfortunately i know what you mean :/
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-09 19:08 [#01389535]
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hahaha, oh man, that panda always makes laugh :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-09 19:09 [#01389537]
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especially when i think of that comment anus presley made when he saw the pic for the first time :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-09 23:15 [#01389718]
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that just made me go "aww.." out loud. you BASTARD!
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wimp
on 2004-11-09 23:42 [#01389720]
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Anybody else seen this zelda t-shirt before? I got it at a thrift store and it just says Hanes on the tag. Below the life hearts theres some text that says "Hyrulean Four Play". Pretty slick.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-10 04:05 [#01389768]
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oh.. a politics thread I missed!
"And I agree with phob (and not in an ass kissing way) that
this has been discussed over and over. Whys it keep coming back up?"
if it keeps coming back up, isn't it obvious that it actually is a problem? Dismissing something as a false claim just because it keeps coming back up won't hold, man.
I don't really mind Chris' promotion, I remember talking to him about Kung-fu a long time ago, and he's a nice fellow, but I can't really say that I've seen him around too much lately... phob should make one of the more regular people mod...
I wonder; how does trolling actually hurt the community? just because a few people don't find it funny? I mean, if people were banned for not being funny nor to the point at times, I don't think there would be much IDM to start out with... imagine if Aphex made a bad joke, and was banned from existence for a week.. or if the guy who constructed the first synth farted just before he finished it and got perm banned from life?!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-10 04:09 [#01389769]
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AND; badgering people about not having been here for more than two years does not really set a nice atmosphere to the board, you know? I mean; a fresh set of opinions should be welcome for they hold the future and they hold development.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 04:17 [#01389771]
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Me happy.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-11-10 04:25 [#01389780]
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The trolling hardens the possibility to discuss electronic music. Why can't bored people, just interested in making pointless topics, find another hangout? And when Hyakusen are making ten threads with "I love/hate Jedi Chris", he knows what will happen. I think Phob is doing the right thing when he is making another mod.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-11-10 04:28 [#01389782]
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I wonder where we would be if this did not happen...
I think if something like this happen again the solution would be to know why this person does it, and solve it
instead of banning him without asking why
this = screenshot
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-10 04:35 [#01389789]
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well.. the trolling isn't really trolling, IMO.. it's a way of sustaining the community, which probably would perish (remember; many of the "trolls" have actually paid for memberships.. if there were to only be 100% serious posters on, sustaining the page would be impossible (or it would cost phobz lots more money!).. the thing that inhibits discussion of electronic music is the low amount of really interesting releases being made...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-10 04:36 [#01389791]
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that's a fake, come one..
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-11-10 04:40 [#01389799]
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no, that isn´t a fake! I also have screenshots of the day after, the moment that happens I thought wtf! lets capture this
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-10 04:46 [#01389811]
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even if it is a fake or not; don't you think it may have been triggered by frustration on the part of the "troll?"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-11-10 05:44 [#01389872]
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...frustration caused by negative changes made to the mb...
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