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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-01 11:17 [#01262300]
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pictures. films.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-01 11:22 [#01262305]
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brokephones,
yes i live in fear
pffffffffft.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-01 11:30 [#01262312]
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Thread closed.
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face pixellator
on 2004-07-01 11:46 [#01262334]
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There is nothing more reassuring than self righteous americans -- obviously nazi scientists weren't the only imports after the second world war.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-01 11:46 [#01262335]
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I was laid-off 3 times during Bush's presidency.
3 years in a row, i lost my job due to Loss of funding, Company buy-out, and downsizing.
all during Bush's term.
my wife has been un-employed for almost 2 years during the Bush presidency.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 11:52 [#01262341]
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I am getting sick of all the anti Bush sentiment here. He is no better or worse than any President who has came before him, and he had a lot more to deal with than those who came before him.
The liberals would have the towel heads running the White House. In times of war you NEED to have a strong leader. Bush is a strong leader.
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from So.Flo on 2004-07-01 11:56 [#01262346]
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So youre saying a strong president is one who thinks war instead or going after the real problem of one person like thousands of others....
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 12:06 [#01262352]
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If he hadn't have taken the action he has taken he would have been declared weak. And if you beleive the capture of bin Laden would stop terrorism you are completely wrong.
Oil is running out in the US, and you need to control more, that is simple economics. Through his actions he has secured a foothold in the most oil rich region on earth...he is looking after the US's long term interests and power.
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from So.Flo on 2004-07-01 12:08 [#01262356]
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And now look we have less oil, and no bin laden.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 12:15 [#01262370]
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ummm...you have more oil and the capture of bin laden would be nothing more than a symbolic token.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-01 12:16 [#01262372]
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the war was started by the so-called STRONG leader.
Bush is not a strong leader. he's a weak puppet controlled by a STRONG government.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 12:18 [#01262374]
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He didn't start the war...the war began a long time before he ever took the presidency. Whether or not your beleive he is a strong leader or not there is a strong government at work, for the good of the American people.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-01 12:21 [#01262375]
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no, I don't believe it is for "the good of the american people".
I believe it to be for the good off the highest eschelon of the American people.
he should not be there - he was not chosen by the American people.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 12:24 [#01262376]
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He's there for the 'people that matter'...in exactly the same way every leader who is in power is. There is nothing unique in his power hungry ways, all world leaders are the same...as yet I haven't seen one reasonable arguement, from a US point of view, that would lead me to think that Bush has done a bad job.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-01 13:13 [#01262411]
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evolume,
your statement is .... weak, unless you provide the job area you are in?
For example: if you are a IT worker ... well I don't think you can blame Bush for that, now can you???
Please do explain, because you could be extremely lazy and not very hard worker and still blame it on Bush (not calling you that, but hope you see my point and clarify)
thanks
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-07-01 13:24 [#01262415]
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elusive you made a good point about people who choose to blame their financial issues on a figurehead when the fault lies within themselves. my friend only took one semester at college then dropped out now he works at a factory putting airplane pieces in a box. its a shame too because he is an extremely intelligent individual but doesn't put forward that energy into something productive like his education and future. his political views you can imagine lean to the left blaming a political figure simply because things haven't worked out the way he planned. when infact its really his fault upset with no one to blame but himself.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:15 [#01262470]
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i am in biotechnology. the first time i got laid off it was because the lab lost funding and closed.
the second time i got laid off it was because the company was bought out by a foreign company and they closed the lab.
the third time i got laid off it was because the company i worked for was downsizing. we produced a protein spray for farming but nobody was buying it. they trimmed the staff down from about 300 people when i started there to about 15 people when i finally got laid off. I was in R and D.
I was never laid off because i was lazy or something. just becuase the companies i worked for were not financially successful for whatever reason.
I wasn't placing blame on anyone. only stating that all three lay-off's happened during Bush's term.
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:18 [#01262475]
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whoa...this is mad talk. crazy talk.
strong=warmonger weak=dedicated to finding peaceful solutions to conflict
american liberals have decided these priorities need to be re-evaluated.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:23 [#01262481]
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Thanks for not getting defensive and staying civil, evolume. I knew you wouldn't take my post the wrong way ;)
Sorry about that, btw. The tech industry is still very unpredictable.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-01 14:27 [#01262483]
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Flower power died in the 60's hippy. Nuke the cunts is what I say.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:31 [#01262490]
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i realize biotech is quite unstable. but 3 layoffs in 3 years, that's gotta be some kind of record. who's to say whether bush's economic policy is directly to blame? could have conceivably happened under any president i know. i'm just stating my personal experiences here. not really passing judgement even though i think it's fun to point fingers at Bush.
another interesting thing about my lay-offs, each time it happened on the exact same day, May 15 3 years in a row.
i think that is because May 15 is near a fiscal quarter end/beginning or something. anyway, this year i was on vacation on may 15. last year too. and every year from now on.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:33 [#01262493]
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I agree.
You certainly have a right to force some of your negativity on Bush for your recent hardships.
No denying that, sir.
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-07-01 14:52 [#01262512]
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it didn't. sorry.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-01 19:21 [#01262810]
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being liked is overrated
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-01 19:22 [#01262812]
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we should just blowed everything up.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-01 19:29 [#01262820]
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Unless you are willing to kick every Jew out of Israel you peace plan is Nil.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-01 19:35 [#01262826]
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PROTEIN SPRAY? Stop fucking with Nature! I don't want my child to grow past 8 feet, thanks.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-01 19:44 [#01262834]
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damnit, bogala.... i thought i had killed this thread.
:'(
sigh
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2004-07-01 21:47 [#01262929]
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what exactly do you mean by towel heads?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-01 22:36 [#01262944]
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I don't mind the naplaming, the geo-politics, the satanic levels of capatilism and consumerism, the self-righteousness and the shit film industry, it's the smugness that I would call a holy war against.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-01 22:55 [#01262957]
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Yeah, bush is smug. Sure...I'll accept that.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-07-02 05:07 [#01263142]
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Arab terrorists.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-03 04:40 [#01264275]
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one american guy told me once "hey id really like to visit europe, ive heard its an interesting PLACE"
brilliant
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 06:59 [#01264367]
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bush should be taken out into the street and shot like a dog
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-03 07:05 [#01264371]
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"No better or worse" than any other president is not much of a recommendation. How would you like this on your job review? "No better or worse than any other employee." And yet this guy's the fuckin' PRESIDENT. And yes, he is demonstrably worse than most or all presidents before him.
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