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offline sneakattack on 2004-06-20 17:32 [#01249000]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to christina: #01248993



Hey fucker, I'm meaner then I used to be, I'll separate your
skin from your body and use it to whip your muscles into a
pulp if you start your nonsense again.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-20 17:33 [#01249002]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to sneakattack: #01248997



oooh so you only look at half-naked guys?
( wink )


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-20 17:33 [#01249003]
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You messed up the follow up.You fag


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-20 17:33 [#01249004]
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(just because people have better things to do with their
time, doesn't mean you won't get a chance to be shot at)


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-06-20 17:34 [#01249008]
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true for all involved. back to work.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-20 17:36 [#01249010]
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I can't work if my muscles are beat into a pulp...
:S


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-06-20 17:43 [#01249016]
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i spent a few years dabbling in literature on aesthetics,
and i found them all -- with few exceptions -- utterly
disconnected from the act itself, unbearably sterile, and
lacking in the infectious vitality that characterizes the
art world. i think, quite simply, and argument for what art
is (even when it conclusion is subjectivity) is
essentially ugly and displeasing -- it is all a part of the
selfsame attempt to compact mental phenomena so it may fit
into the rigid, square nook of reason. when 'truth' is the
criterion, writing tends to be bland. the only definitions
of art i can tolerate are aesthetic ones, not because they
arrive at any absolute, but because they are works of art in
themselves.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-20 17:54 [#01249034]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to christina: #01248915



in fact w M w is just plain boring.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 00:25 [#01249248]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to happy cycling: #01249016



elegant theories is just what your mind wants...
it's a trap as it's made people prefer a flat world
over Galileo's theory, but it's more pleasing,
I'll grant you that. So, it's art against truth?


 

offline optimus prime on 2004-06-21 00:34 [#01249250]
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christina is as sexless as pikachu. oh wait he's male. :(

pikachu rocks.


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-06-21 02:07 [#01249275]
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it's not a trap, as it isn't designed. a round planet theory
is elegant and pleasing to you, especially with its
counter-intuitive cleverness. 'pretty' and 'true' are just
different facets of the selfsame cognitive appeal. i just
don't find the latter as pleasurable and exquisite as the
first. but good luck to you, and get back to me when your
discovery of the absolute essence of art reaches fruition.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 04:41 [#01249404]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to happy cycling: #01249275



yes, that will be a few days from now


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 04:45 [#01249406]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to optimus prime: #01249250



not all picachu are male. those who ARE, are of course
homosexual.

but after all so is Optimus Prime (how many female
robots were there in the original???) He's head of a gay
gang of autobots. I wonder if this word means they
give their own cocks blowjobs (from greek word auto-
meaning "self".. you never know, sometimes comic
artists do a lot of research)


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 05:16 [#01249438]
Points: 124 Status: Regular



on a serious note,
no, I don't like clever and counter-
clever things. And I don't take clever
theories and make them my own
undefeatable world-view, you aren't
doing me justice.
I agree that elegant theories are
pleasing, it's a brain structure thing.
but just because it's elegant doesn't
mean it's true. For instance quantum
mechanics isn't TRUE. it isn't how the
universe works. It's our limited understanding
of it, and all theories, including the ones
I adopt, are but lies.
Increasingly complex lies, and increasingly
further from "completely untrue"

So all in all, I agree that even theories are
works of art, some of which we like and some
of which we hate, for our own reasons.

and perhaps what I just phrased is a lie.
I'm getting less serious again, so I'll stop.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 05:37 [#01249458]
Points: 124 Status: Regular



oh the ESSENCE of art..
hm let me see. i think doom puppy
mentioned something...
rich people want art for their own
reasons, which usually don't have
anything to do with what pleases
THEM.
oh and critics have to make a living
don't they? (parasitically, but we're
all parasites anyways, even if we are
Michael Angelo or Rubens or Aphex Twin)

so there you have it. the essence of art
today, the Truth :p
and if Truth is Beauty, then the way
the art circuits truly work are *exquisite*
as you yourself say.

let's not take ourselves too seriously,
shall we?


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-21 06:09 [#01249497]
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It is sort of hard to stop oneself from acquiring
information about stuff nowadays. Especially living in a
western-type society. Getting jaded about things after
knowing how they are made, what the artist exactly
meant...the truth could be inevitable. One shouldn't shield
oneself behind the intuitive way to perceive things. The
fact that the person likes the art-piece in question is
enough but knowing why one likes it is a step closer to self
awareness.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-21 07:32 [#01249632]
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I think you've got some interesting theories there are about
homosexuality and Autobots. "Auto" as you point out, from
the Greek meaning "self", and then, curiously the verb "to
bot" can mean to engage in sodomy. I think a paper further
expanding this subject is required.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-21 07:47 [#01249661]
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Autobot=Faggot
Decepticon=...



 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 08:09 [#01249679]
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de+cepticon = one who negates the cepticon.

cepticon might mean virginity.

just a thought..


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 08:10 [#01249680]
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autobots get lucky each time they lose battle :)


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-21 08:12 [#01249681]
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tell us the meaning of....

It smells like onion.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 08:21 [#01249684]
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that's the name of a song by Nirvana.

silly!


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-21 08:27 [#01249688]
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only 50% of it ;)



 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-21 08:35 [#01249693]
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... that was a new complain from heart shaped box.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 10:40 [#01249797]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to 3052: #01249688



75% of it, if you count words..
100% of it, if you just don't care
about the lyrics, like Nirvana.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-21 16:54 [#01250284]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



Actually I'm pretty sure the real song title doesn't have
"it" in it.

It smells like onion. "smells" and "like" = 2/4

smells like teen spirit. 4/4

both conveniently had 4 words so we didn't have to find a
lowest common denominator or something.

It seems to be 50 porcent in fact.


 

offline christina from Athens (Greece) on 2004-06-21 18:32 [#01250368]
Points: 124 Status: Regular | Followup to w M w: #01250284



that's right actually! How did you think of it? Damn! But
your theory doesn't say anything about the essence of art.
OR decepticons!! Does it? huh? huh?


 


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