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offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-02 03:46 [#01218946]
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when you fit a song perfectly to how you feel... nothing is
better then that!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-02 03:50 [#01218950]
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other great things... music in general, doritos, sunsets,
the summer, Christmas, weekends, sleep, coffee, friends,
love, beautiful women, laughter, reading, playing games,
traveling, etc...


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 04:03 [#01218956]
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friends (this has been hit home to me more than ever this
year); my girlfriend (too many reasons to list);
smile/shiver-inducing, mood-altering moments in music;
keeping busy (with things you enjoy doing); sunshine
(especially on your face); a cool breeze; laughing from the
gut; sitting comfortably; my favourite jeans (like home from
home); headphones; the sea; sunset; dawn; dancing all night
long (when you never want it to stop); unexpectedly hearing
from an old friend; waking up refreshed; getting lost in a
moment..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-02 04:21 [#01218973]
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"when you realise you're about to see aphex twin"

so true...so true!!!


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-02 04:21 [#01218974]
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thats nothing unusual since you act like a child who wants
to fight everyone, Tom.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-02 05:11 [#01219046]
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So...... you people like stuff huh?


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 05:20 [#01219058]
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having my parents' house and well-stocked refridgerator all
to myself (+ girlfriend and smoking companions) for a week.
bliss.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2004-06-02 06:10 [#01219130]
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what's to say life isn't special? every little moment
saturated with specialness?


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-02 06:21 [#01219151]
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yes yes man, I've had my house to myself for weeks on end at
times, and it's awesome!



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-02 06:25 [#01219154]
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mine is supersaturated with specialness!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 06:28 [#01219157]
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what's to say life isn't special?

hmm.. if you look at it from a scientific approach, one life
is only one among many, which doesn't make one single life
special. the phenomenon of life itself, on the other had, is
very special, 'cause EVERYTHING that is alive falls under
its description, and therefore, there is only one "life."

Maybe I'm lost in semantics, and maybe i'm talking about
unique instead of special, but I don't see how those two
things are too far apart.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 06:30 [#01219159]
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Special? Is there a single thing that is more every-day
than life?


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-06-02 06:30 [#01219160]
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Pleasure


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-06-02 06:49 [#01219188]
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milk, eagles and sex with curious lesbians. oh and of course
my dog: 'Jubba' he is a genius


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 06:55 [#01219194]
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au contraire, the esteemed mr. mastah is correct. life is
exceedingly special because - as far as we know - it
exists in only one lickle part of the universe.

life is a most peculiar phenomenon because it creates order
from less order, against the natural direction of entropy in
the universe (if you ignore the heat released).


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 07:03 [#01219207]
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There are lots of places where that happens. Crystals,
snowflakes, planets forming into orbs from scattered dust.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 07:10 [#01219221]
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hmm. yes, that is true. i am making a cordial retreat from
my statement.

*much head-scratching ensues*


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-06-02 07:14 [#01219226]
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Kisses and cuddles


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-02 07:16 [#01219230]
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.


Attached picture

 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-02 07:17 [#01219232]
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[nothing personal - I was looking for an excuse to post
that]


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 07:24 [#01219247]
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That's all good and well, if it wasn't true car engines
wouldn't work or anything of that nature.

The second law of thermodynamics isn't really an absolute
(as it was first formulated), it's now been explained by a
statistical interpretation since the turn of the 20th
century really. That is, entropy increases because it is
far far far more likely to, but it is statistically possible
for (a common example) all of the air molecules in a room to
suddenly move into one corner.

Cool book I'm reading by John Gribbin, quote: "This has
interesting implications in cosmology...where we deal with
vast stretches of time and space. The bigger the region we
deal with, the more scope there is for unlikely things to
happen someplace, and sometime inside it. It is even
possible (though still not very likely) that the whole
universe, which is an orderly place, by and large,
represents some sort of thermodynamic statistical
fluctuation, a very large, very rare hiccup that has created
a region of low entropy that is now running down."


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2004-06-02 07:44 [#01219278]
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drunkenm.

ah .. i sort of fucked that up. i wasn't intending for it to
come across so third person. if "life" in the third person =
"special", well then, that doesn't really do much for my
person (b/c i'm not a third person). which i think you were
getting at?

i think what i was getting at was that specialness in life
is surely determined by the moment-to-moment progression.
i.e. the constellation/form of the moment more so than the
content of the moment. (the way you live, not so much what
you live?) - feck.

might be time to take some anti-pyretics ... coz this seems
to be saying not much. :)


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-06-02 07:46 [#01219282]
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haha =oD

I aint kissing you with that mouth! O_o


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:50 [#01219286]
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yes, I know. I just enjoy picking at sentences. Probably a
result of having logics and rhetorics + an deep interest in
linguistics and language-theory. It annoys me that I enjoy
it, 'cause it seems philosophy today is more about language
than anything else, and I would like to end up somewhere
outside of language (heh.. not possible, but I won't study
how language relates to itself at least!) when I'm done with
my studies.

Simply put, the way I saw your original post before I got
stuck in language, was: "the unique state of each and every
moment is special," but I see now that I wasn't completely
correct in that either.


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2004-06-02 07:55 [#01219297]
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I like it when my harddrives die all the time and I lose
everything all the time. ..


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2004-06-02 07:56 [#01219299]
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ah no worries. i do philosophy meself, so i have quite an
appetite for "nit-picking" and arguments etc. ;)

i find language theory can be a bit of a self-imposed cage
tho ?.

but yes, i can see how you got those christian overtones
from my original post.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2004-06-02 07:59 [#01219305]
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I won't study how language relates to itself at
least!


if you mean "language" in general, then yeah - tends to
cause a bit of a headache - and it seems a rather
metaphysical presupposition that it does or could "relate to
itself" - that doesn't mean its wrong of course ...


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:07 [#01219317]
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I'd like to point out that snowflakes, tornadoes, crystals,
and lightning are great examples of natural order but are
poor analogies for life. Life is unique due to the extreme
amount of information it contains (DNA, Protein Synthesis
using syntax, rules of grammar). Those examples you
mentioned, while orderly, have very low information content.
It's currently unknown how information of this kind can
arise naturalistically.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 08:10 [#01219319]
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Yes. Thank you. My head scratching, whilst forever
continuing, will be slightly less painful.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:11 [#01219320]
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That wasn't the point though, it was in response to this:
life is a most peculiar phenomenon because it creates
order
from less order, against the natural direction of entropy in

the universe



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-02 08:14 [#01219324]
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God you wankers can't help but make everything a stupid
fucking philosophical intellectual arguement. If you want
to do that shit do it in some other topic and don't ruin
perfectly good ones with your inane ramblings. If I wanted
to see this shit I would have called the topic "Discuss the
philosophy of being a wanker by misinterpreting other
peoples comments as much as possible"

Thanks.



 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 08:14 [#01219325]
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yes i was still mistaken to say that. i was thinking about
ordered information from disordered matter, but instead i
talked about ordered matter from disordered matter.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:16 [#01219328]
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Gawd, go cuddle with that girl you really like or whatever.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:18 [#01219333]
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Whoops. Oh well, still nice to know. Anyway, I'd just like
to say that I'm constantly amazed by my own self-awareness.
Even without drugs.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:19 [#01219335]
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You're just adding fuel to the fire


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:20 [#01219338]
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Hmm, that just made me think. It's kind of like a
self-feedback system. Thinking about your brain which is
thinking about your brain which is thinking about your
brain, ad infinitum. Hall of mirrors type thing. No wonder
you see crazy fractal shit when you take hallucinogens.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-06-02 08:20 [#01219339]
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this thread only because its by you ecnadniarb :D


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:23 [#01219344]
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Cool, fill in the blank!

"this thread ____ only because its by you ecnadniarb :D"

vomits



 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 08:24 [#01219347]
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yeah it's crazy shit isn't it.

another good one: if we had an all-encompassing grand
unified theory of physics, we could in theory (and
ignoring quantum chaosy bizness) predict the movement of
every particle (atomic and subatomic) in the universe. we
could therefore predict the future with 100% accuracy if we
had an infinitely powerful computer. (this is a
theoretical 'proof' of determinism)

but!: said computer would also be part of the
universe, and would therefore have to predict its own
computations... arrgghhh.... infinite regression.... hall of
mirrors... does not compute does not compute does not
compute



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:27 [#01219352]
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Yeh, well I was determinist until about a week ago.
But you can't get around quantum theory.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-02 08:28 [#01219353]
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I can't even predict what kind of samwitch I'm a have for
lunch.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:28 [#01219354]
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I've got a hunch that your post will make someone mention
Godel's Theorm.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:29 [#01219355]
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Hey, I was right!


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-06-02 08:31 [#01219357]
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:P up yours!!!

ok this makes life special

:D

and this, because hes just soooo cool to look at.

gilbert the dragon


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:33 [#01219360]
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*goes and reads about Godel's Theorem*
I love this stuff.

afxnumb: hott11./[


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:36 [#01219363]
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I hope he loves you as much as you love him.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-06-02 08:37 [#01219366]
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hmm, im gonna walk away.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-06-02 08:38 [#01219367]
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I dont "love" him...we've only been dating for a little over
a month, hes good company


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-06-02 08:40 [#01219372]
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My mistake


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-02 08:57 [#01219396]
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getting post 100 in a thread is the best!


 


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