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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-04-01 16:04 [#01128935]
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also loading your own music from the xbox hard drive into vice city is alot better than listening to
GAY 80's music.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-04-01 16:05 [#01128936]
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well i just don't like it when people say xbox has no good games. not much is known about the console and i must EDUCATE THE MASSES!!! understand?
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-04-01 16:08 [#01128941]
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Perhaps.....but lets face it, XBOX was a failure....within a matter of weeks the price was slashed by 50%.
Even Sony postponed to the launch of PS3 by a further 12 months, because they knew they'd cash in on the sales against the XBOX
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-04-01 16:10 [#01128942]
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To many, it also has the stigma of being made by Microsoft, and that will put many people off it as well.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-01 16:13 [#01128944]
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PS2 is only cashing in on anything because Sony got their system out first, and therefore has the largest following, not to mention they have the money to PAY OFF game companies so that they will only release games for their system, something which I feel should be TOTALLY ILLEGAL.
PS2's graphics are godawful (with a few RARE excepetions), and in my HONEST opinion I feel that that system is more a failure than xbox is. Money isn't everything.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-04-01 16:14 [#01128946]
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the problem is that sony has a stranglehold with all the exclusivity contracts they have with a shitload of good game developers. if everyone were allowed to make games across the whole market for all systems, it wouldn't really matter anymore.
each console is sort of geared towards genres if you look at it. PS2 is geared more towards single player rpgs. xbox is more for first person shooters and all around violent stuff. gc is more for party games and good multiplayer stuff.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-01 16:22 [#01128957]
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I am basing it on the games that are out on both systems, for example SSX Tricky, Soul Calibur 2. How else can you make a direct comparison? The only game I can think of where the Xbox version is noticeably better, graphically, is Splinter Cell. That is offset by: a) More/better plot in the GC version.
b) Link up to GBA (far from gimmicky as it is in some games- you can keep the radar on the GBA Screen, works fantastically well).
With regard to VC, when I bought it (whihc I did state in my inital post...) it wasn't out on the xbox. Also, the Xbox version is not the same. On my comparatively old machine the graphics etc. are roughly the same (although my res is a lot higher). However, I can mod mine to bits, new cars, player skins etc. Also, on a high end PC it is far better than the xbox version. I don't think the xbox supports 2048*1536 resolution now, does it?
The control system on the PC version is widely (and correctly) acknowledged as being far superior. Try playing the foot bits with mouse and keyboard and the driving bits with a pad (maybe a MS sidewinder, that is V. similar to xbox pad?)...
On the subject of controls, PC versions of FPS are far superior. I'm sorry, but playing a FPS with a controller compared to a mouse & keyboard is a total joke. Ports of console FPSs (Red Faction, Turok etc) to the PC are notoriously easy? Why, because PC gamers are uber-1337? No, simply because the console versions are made harder by their inadequate controls. Don't believe me? Try Playing Quake 3 on the DC using a Pad against someone (even a very mediocre player) using a mouse and keyboard. You will be utterly slaughtered, no matter how good you are. A good analogy would be entering a stock car race in a road car. Doesn't matter how good a driver you are, if your equipment is that much inferior, you don't stand a chance.
RE: Games, Halo is pretty weak IMO. Also, isn't it due out (or already out) on PC?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-01 16:31 [#01128978]
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PS2's graphics are godawful (with a few RARE excepetions),
and in my HONEST opinion I feel that that system is more a failure than xbox is. Money isn't everything.
True, I might buy an Xbox one day... I can never see myself buying a PS2. Hopefully SC2 signals the beginning of the end of Namco's pact with sony.
PS2s graphics are diabolical... compare games that are on DC and PS2; Rez, Crazy Taxi, etc. The PS2 ones are (very noticeably) worse in every case. How old is the DC? Seven years now?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-01 16:31 [#01128980]
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you have a thorough point and I agree with all of that, but Kochlear wasn't even attacking PC games. He simply said that the xbox is a good alternative for people who cant afford a 3000 dollar PC system and then 500 dollars of games. It is (or atleast WAS before the newest generation of PC video cards) comparable in graphics, and a lot of games that appear on PC are ported to xbox (and vice versa). This gives many people an opportunity to play a market of games they would have otherwise missed out on.
Oh, and Halo has been out for quite some time on PC. It has better graphics, but I wouldn't call it an overall improvement, since it was streamlined/perfected so poorly that it lags terribly even on high end systems.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-01 16:33 [#01128983]
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yep, DC did mostly everything a PS2 can do now, and it was on the market years before. I'm starting to wish Sega had put Sony out of business, not the other way around.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-04-01 16:35 [#01128986]
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You only say you'll buy an XBOX since I mentioned that I'd get one if Outrun2 only comes out on XBOX. Hehehehe
I gotta have that game! :D
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Portland
from San Diego (United States) on 2004-04-01 16:43 [#01128993]
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i LOVE my gamecube. one of the most fun consoles i have ever owned. in fact, every nintendo has been.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-01 17:04 [#01129014]
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i gotta get me one of these computer games consoles.......i'm so poor.
fuck it, i'll steal one.
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apydiagirls
from city (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-01 17:28 [#01129040]
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Gamecube pad-definately opinion and takes time to get used too,I love it though,you quickly realise that "Metroid prime" and "wind waker" were made for the pad,perfect controls.
Recommended games then-Ikaruga,monkey ball 2,-Have you SEEN the Resi evil 4 trailer yet?OMG-gamecube only,I love resident evil and the remake and zero were the main reasons I initially bought mine,for fans they are outstanding.Cube has the best soul calibur 2(IMO), and eternal darkness has a story line to blow you away.Top console.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-01 17:32 [#01129050]
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Not at all, I like DOA3 and Project Gotham...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-01 17:46 [#01129061]
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I hardly ever play Gamecube, the third party support is poor
and getting poorer Games meant for all three systems, like The Suffering, got the hook from the GC end. Xbox has superior versions of any game the two consoles share (Splinter Cell was maimed), and PS2 has way more high quality developers pouring their energy into it. It's nice to see RE4 being GC only, though... they freakin' need a game like that to contend with Halo and MGS3 and Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto and Ninja Gaiden and Final Fantasy and Killzone and Doom and Half Life and SOCOM and Silent Hill.
Nintendo is still the best game developer, in my mind. Gamecube is a must have because their exclusives are peerless. They're out of touch on the business and marketing ends, but their games never fail to delight me.
Someday they'll go the way of Sega, if they're not careful. Third party only. Maybe that would do them good... what the fuck is this DS shit? Idiotic. Sony is going to crush them with the PSP.
For GC, other than the usual suspects (Zelda/Metroid/Mario), I recommend Star Fox Adventures. It's a horrible Star Fox
game, but a fun and beautiful adventure game. Underrated and misunderstood.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-04-01 19:01 [#01129167]
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are you a fanboy?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 21:23 [#01129331]
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woops, dorry i dont have all the time in the world to play video games.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-04-01 21:42 [#01129347]
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what kind of a loser doesn't play video games all the time?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 21:53 [#01129353]
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one whos busy writing music.
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zero-cool
on 2004-04-02 03:13 [#01129598]
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does any one have XBOX LIVE
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 03:14 [#01129601]
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i have cubebox death.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-04-02 03:53 [#01129701]
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I have an GC and loved it.................... untill I got a PS2
PS2 kick's GC ass !
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-02 03:54 [#01129704]
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I suppose those jaggy ass clumps of pixels might hurt more if the PS2 is doing the kicking.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-02 03:55 [#01129705]
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Gamecube is the best.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-04-02 04:00 [#01129718]
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there's bugger all available for the GC though, the controllers are really clumpy and awkward to hold and you get bored shitless of playing the GC games after about a week
I love my PS2, it's silver and rockin' Bo)
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