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yes, electronica |
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ok, i don't what to say to that. |
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here ya go, scroll down a bit and you'll find the |
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btw, WHAT is wrong with black eyed peas?? i bought their album some years ago, and from what i remember it was alright. |
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electronica is just as bad. coined by americans to describe fatboy slim or something. electronic listening music. e.l.m. |
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I really liked that song Where is the Love... everyone got mad at me for it I believe, when I mentioned it, but I did like it... :) |
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electronic listening music sounds just as lame as IDM... why not just call it electronic music... you have rock music, classical music, country music, etc, etc... why not electronic music? |
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first of all, there's no way to grade a genre or category of music in terms of quality. to attempt to do so is completely illogical. every genre of music has nearly infinite varieties of music in it that are good and bad and everything in-between. you can never say "noise isn't good" or "pop isn't good" - it makes no sense. i hope no one takes this personally, but i hate "dance" music and i always have. it's a personal preference, i am not willing to say that certain dance music artists aren't good because i have not immersed myself in that genre and learned about it and therefore cannot judge which artists are good or not. it's kind of like a wine expert who can tell the minute differences between wine, which is completely foreign to me. that said, i don't consider aphex twin, autechre, venetian snares, etc. "dance music". there is a clear and obvious distinction between artists like those and fatboy slim. you can't even compare them because they are so different. they have different sounds/ideologies/techniques... so at least for me, the appeal of IDM (or whatever you'd like to call it - it really is irrelevant) is that it goes beyond just providing simple rythms and melody to accomodate dancing. it is usually much more complex and usually more cerebral and challenging. there's nothing wrong with someone liking dance music, but it isn't for me. |
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"coined by americans to describe fatboy slim or something." where exactly did you get that brilliant piece of info from? electronica is way better than ELM or some gay shit. The 'Listening' doesnt even need to be there.. it should either be Electronica or Electronic Music. |
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the answer is easy, think of music as another form of language, there is a huge gap between everyday vocabulary, and shakespeare. although i am not saying people who listen to this type of music are more intelligent, i am saying that the listeners respond more to complex assembly in sound. the classic 4/4 and natural build up and come down of tracks we see on mtv for exmaple is too dull these days, just like enjoying the use of more intricate language...like in literature the way you write, not what you write makes the difference, like a mathematical equation, the way you balance it, composition, all of this has a common foundation, that we respond to, thats it |
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Sounds like the kind of thing I would have said, and would have gotten flamed for about 2 years ago, when I didn't like IDM and turned up here! :P |
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i have two answers. one is a parody of a song: "It's only IDM, but I like it" the other is the most obvious answer which basically makes the question sound stupid BECAUSE I FUCKING LIKE IT they're basically the same but i thought that since people like alternate endings and comentary on their DVDs, the same would apply to my post. |
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gee thanks for that...now i'll prolly get flamed for this :P |
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YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE SHUT UP ABOUT IDM IT'S THE WAY AND THE LIGHT AND THE TRUTH IDM IS LIKE "I AM KING SHIT OF FUCK MOUNTAIN, WHY WOULD YOU FUCK WITH ME?!" |
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i have one question. why would you fuck with me? |
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I listen to it primarily to impress girls that dress like Avril Lavigne, and partly because I enjoy it. |
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who are you trying to impress with the beatles then? |
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I'm impressed by his liking of the Beatles :) |
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haha :) |
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I'm trying to impress John and make him love me. :_-( And to a lesser extent, the other dead one. |
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sorry! heard it on telly years ago whem fatboy and chemicals "blew up" in america, it was described by some u.s reporter as the "electronica invasion." i would rather call it electronic music, but people go, "house?" which is wrong. |
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Why do you listen to "IDM"? it's simple: i grew up with it |
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q. why? a. they made me do it |
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i'll listen to anything that can make sweet aural love to my ear drums. |
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dude.... you are insane.... shitting on yourself isn't very healthy... oh, and I do because I'm l33+ or something.... |
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all my cds came free in cereal boxes |
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it's a combination of a few things, maybe.... 01. It makes them feel special because other people actually comment that they're weird, which translates to them they're special. 02. They are at that age where the internet/electronic music made a connection. 03. They're trying to make music for fun 04. It's about that time in music for some Expression ie. the Prog rock period in the seventies after the formulaic crap. I don't know! |
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hehe, well, I would prefer the reporter call it electronica than 'Techno' or 'Rave or something generic and thoughtless to that effect. |
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... why not? |
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I like it. like I like rock, pop, metal, indie, funk, hip hop, trip hop, glam, beat... |
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Who gives a shit what the fuck genre its called? a ithink all you guys that are so hung up over what genre it SHOULD be classified as, are still going through the "dont label me" teen bullshit phase. I dont give a fuck what its called as long as someone calls it something, because when i go shopping i dont want to wade through moby and underworld albums because people want to be cool and call everything "electronic" music. And to the guy that said some shit about saying something is bad is illogical because every genre has its good or blah blah blah, listen NOISE IS BAD!!! i just said it. i get the same shit through my speakers if i put my tv to channel 3! can i burn it to a cd and called it unreleased merzbow? sure. why? CAUSE IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME! its fucking noise! how diverse can it be?! ever look at merzbow in discogs? its sick! the guy has like a hundred album. merzbow fans dont cry, i dont mean to target him. i think all of them are rejects. anyways, i like it because i grew upon house, and as it faded away this sort took its place. i never stumbled upon it. its great music. for all occassions. and i get an even better feeling when in my car and i pull up to someone bumoin the D-O-DOUBLE-GIZZLE, and put on alder and elius and drown out his jin and juice, i cant help but think the guy is thinking......"who was that masked man?" |
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i just realised how long my post was, and that probably 99% of you wont read it becasue of that. which is cool, cause i do the same. and i think i offended about 99% of you anyways, so i think i'm all good! :D |
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I guess that some people like to be pigeonholed, it makes things simpler but it stunts musical growth. Everthing then becomes generic because of the limitations imposed by the sound of that pigeon hole. |
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I'm not a noise expert or anything, but.. listen to merzbows 'pulse demon', i was very impressed with that track. All noise isn't like channel 3 :P They can have very varied timbres and whatnot. Also I've been doing alot of thinking about music and shit, and like ol horsefactory told me, as long as it comes naturally.. I remember when I first bought confield, I was totally immersed in it for months. At first I only like eidetic casein, parehelic triangle and uviol, because they were more traditional in composition. Then I started enjoying pen expers' beauty, and sim gishel.. I mean, I do think there is a deeper understanding of music. The pop music you hear nowadays just isn't catchy to me anymore, the melodies and arrangements just doesn't bring anything new to the table for me. And there is also a certain complexity issue, like, autechre has more depth, and it influences another part of the brain I think. Sorry for the long post ;P |
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i listen to "idm" cuz i like it..easy as that. most of my friends like it too...they dont listen to it as much, but they appreciate the production values and the originality. some of my friends look at me strangely when i listen to confield..and i think maybe i am weird cuz i enjoy it... |
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personally i'm trying to find new stuff, to get out of idm and find new musical territories - i have enough idm already... or even too much compared to other music (why in hell do i have 22 Aphex Twin releases, 7 Autechre releases, etc. and only one PJ Harvey, only one Portishead, only one Queen Adreena, only one Masada, only one Rachel's??? etc... my CD collection doesn't reflect my musical tastes that much in terms of quantity/love, as i was only stuck in idm for a while...) - it would be too bad to stick to the same genre always and miss out on lots and lots of other great music!! and i don't know why i like or why i don't like. |
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oh theres always dickheads labelling every idm listener as a weird poser... thats the after-effect, just like with korn when they got huge and everyone was wearing their shirts, and screaming "fuck you" thats the posers, then theres the people who were fans before that, purely out of curiosity and openness...not worried about what is in or out atm. you know theyre selling barbies these days, the "hip-hopper" version...with beat box and white sneakers inclusive. its always gonna be this way because we strive to emulate those we envy...but there are people out there who just dont bite like that. some people just do their thing, so lets just leave it with this thread because its not solving any important problem, it'll only incite more bullshit to come into the board |
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"because when i go shopping i dont want to wade through moby and underworld albums because people want to be cool and call everything "electronic" music" To be honest, it sounds like you are the one caught up in the "don't label me teenage bullshit" as you don't want to be associated with moby, who by the way, is electronic music (at least his earlier stuff when he still gave a shit was). I agree though, I LOVE drowning out someone's Creed or Tu-pac with Ziggomatic v17 or something... it makes me think of a Mastercard commercial.. RDJ album: 6 dollars off ebay Bose Sound system: 500 dollars The look on others' faces as they hear the words "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits": Priceless |
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"RDJ album: 6 dollars off ebay Bose Sound system: 500 dollars The look on others' faces as they hear the words "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits": Priceless " where did you pick this from? :) |
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where did I pick it from? I don't follow... =B |
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because repetition is like having a lobotomy. repetitious music is like eating cardboard 3 times a day. I prefer some flavour in mydiet. |
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oh fer chrissake, why even bother labeling what is IDM and what isn't? what if you hit something in between supposed 'IDM' and another genre? oh no! does that mean it's not IDM and therefore it is not as 'complex' and 'intelligent'? give me a break :) |
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How's hell this time of year? |
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not warm enough, that's for sure. |
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we listen due to our unequalled intelligence over the masses of dumbasses. and by the way merzbow rocks, and i will buy a when i get the money. ohh so digging the pornoise series now, but i am still yet to dl all of it. that's what the box is for. |
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i am not listening only to IDM, but i have many CDs told to be IDM. i am only looking for special music, which you would miss if you don't listen to it after a time. i think that's the difference to good music and too-mainstream music. the latter you can replace with any new CD you buy (so called EMPTY music), but worth listening music is in my opinion and ears unique. tell that to your friends :) |
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