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epohs
from )C: on 2003-11-10 11:48 [#00943926]
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the thing is, we're not the only ones that are going to be suffering if this process fails.
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 11:56 [#00943940]
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then the usa has to make a real effort so that it doesnt fail
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-11-10 12:19 [#00943975]
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you said it pal :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-10 14:24 [#00944110]
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Bush doesn't care! He wants oil!
None of the worlds madmen have ever cared about what other people think of them or their actions!
Like in Burma, where Aung Sang Suu Kyi is under "house arrest" because the people voted for her! That, obviously, is a crime...
Same as being communist, black, poor or radical in america.
If Bush hasn't cared before, he won't care now. Neither will the people who pull the strings (i doubt that fucking ass has come up with all this on his own).
It isn't "worth" building Iraq back up if you count the dollars. If all the people in the world would give Bush one dollar to step down, do you think he would do it?
Someone mentioned MGS2? That's probably not far from the truth! Full informational control! The web will be restricted, and this post, that petition, and anything else "un-american" will be shut down!
One last thing: Arnold is governor... Bush is president... what idiot will be the next government official in USA? Me?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:44 [#00944389]
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*signed
"It's a global abrasion It's conflagration United Nations It's a total invasion ... Destroy your customs You'll have no say We'll clothe your women In the western way"
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-10 19:52 [#00944570]
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thank you..
not signing this does no good.. if you want USA's Iraq policy to change, this is one way of going about doign it
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-11-10 20:20 [#00944589]
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One way, but it;s a shit way.... There;s just over 350 thousand american idiots, maybe a 105th will give their lives for their pseudo 'freedom'.
why is bush your represntantive?
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2003-11-10 22:48 [#00944784]
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i haven't been to the board all that much recently, so it's strangely comforting to return and find much the same inbred rhetoric backing itself as when i left it.
part of me was sadly expecting the debacle at hand, stopping short of being satisfied at the administrations' spiteful actions and susequent failure.
i really don't want to get any further into the same discussions(?) regarding the issue, except to ask this,
do many of you really believe that the current situation in the middle east is one that exists as a result of US actions? of course, world affairs are complex... but the so-called "backlash" of US capitalist policy over the past years not-withstanding, does anyone here really draw a line between America and the complete lawlessness of suicide bombers and virtually random destruction of infrastructure and social facilities?
were arab countries on a road to peace that the US obstructed?
we did inherit problems that europe generated during colonial rule, and the vast mid-east itself has manifest for a thousand years.
someone in this thread asked whether, now that 'the US destroyed a whole country, is the rest of the world expected to clean it up?'
and while i would never hold my breath for the rest of the world to do anything until forced, i do realize that we're all going to have to clean up somehow, and at sometime.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-11 00:44 [#00944920]
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Learn some history and NOT the revisionist bullshit your government feeds you.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2003-11-11 10:33 [#00945680]
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right, jones. well i've been reading the xltronic messageboard for quite a while now, so i'm quite familiar with the matrix of lies i've been forced to swallow. i feel, really.
my favorite though, is how those reporting from whatever x location speak as if from the only source of objectivity, like those responsible for disseminating information and governing in their circles are free of interests, of adjendas, of coersion. we actually have access to libraries here in the united states. and we can read all the uncensored internet, too!
everyone revises they're own history by what they absorb and how they translate it. i'm not denying propaganda.
anyway, i thought my message was in the form of a question..just curious.
i guess the answer's already been spelled out; the greedy US government prepetuates evil in the name of self-righteousness, while it's people run amok in a consumer cloud.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-12 18:53 [#00948004]
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 07:33 [#00951088]
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1bn 'slips through' to Iraq
America doesn't need anyone's help, they can manipulate and wrangle the UN any which way including theft from the Oil for Food program that they had put on hold.
Stuff anyone who blows the whistle as they will just be silenced....
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 07:43 [#00951095]
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boy did you ever miss the point of that song...gawd Jaz Coleman (half Egpytian)would be rolling his eyes
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:05 [#00951117]
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I can't resist this heartwarming story
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-11-15 08:06 [#00951118]
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At the end of the day, it was the majority of the American voting population that put Bush where he is. Does make you think.
Yeah he's an idiot, but I think any president would have done what he did. And watching the news lately, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the troops moved back in sometime soon
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-11-15 08:08 [#00951119]
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Btw. I think Rumsfeld would make a good president. He's more professional in his manner than Bush
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:08 [#00951120]
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so the us shouldnt have gone there, but they shouldnt give in to the terrorism now (as they would appear to do because they support sharon less, which is good in itself but not for the the fact that it would have been provoked by fear of terrorism in iraq, maybe this is bullshit, i just read it in my paper). so for all i care bush gets his 87 bil, he's economically ruining the country anyways and shouldnt be re-elected for that. on that same note im not going to sign for having rumsfeld fired, though that's a fun idea, the whole conservative right wing clique of bush should take a hike (in the dessert or something that is).
apart from the giving in to terrorism and me apparantly liking seeing the us's butt kicked (over the backs of those poor soldiers :( the sollution might be for the us to leave though and for the rest of the world to clean up. right wing presidents of the future might not pull such a stupid stunt that easily anymore and it might do iraq good.
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:11 [#00951123]
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so larry flint really has those porn pictures of that heroine with to soldiers? that's so cool
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:11 [#00951124]
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so larry flint really has those porn pictures of that heroine with to soldiers? that's so cool
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:17 [#00951128]
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Bush actually didnt win the election...it was decided by High Court over vote counting in Florida where many black people got eliminated by invoking a newly instilled law that prevented them from voting if they even had a sembalance of a police record including traffic violations. The said people, many of which were unfounded and unproven. Gore had a clear lead up until then.
As far as Bush's war efforts go, I doubt if many presidents would have been willing to invent that amount of bullshit to make a case for war and carried through with an unproked, preemptive strikes like he did. It takes a special kind of scum to do that, to go that low. Even his father Bush Senior is not impressed and his decisions have been doctored and made by the neo conservatives not voted in. The troops are dying in Iraq as we speak...
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:20 [#00951131]
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black people shouldnt vote anyway
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-15 08:21 [#00951133]
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you should see spike lee's episode he did for ten minutes older : the trumpet
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:22 [#00951134]
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*Btw. I think Rumsfeld would make a good president. He's more
professional in his manner than Bush
Holy shit? You just described the 4th Reich
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:25 [#00951140]
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he agrees?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-15 08:26 [#00951143]
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i dont think he agrees with anyone but himself :)
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:29 [#00951146]
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yes i have that too im the only one that should be allowed to vote ;)
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:31 [#00951147]
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who agrees?
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:33 [#00951149]
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silly cartoon snails should not be allowed to vote either :P
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:33 [#00951150]
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apparantly spike lee thinks black people shouldnt vote, i cant agree with hÃm of course
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:36 [#00951155]
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i read on this spongebob fan site (that's where i get all my information about stuff like this) that gary is smarter than his boss! so
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:45 [#00951157]
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Cheers for the movie, will check it out -
Greg Palast has this article on the 2000 elections and also shot a documentary for BBC on the subject.
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AK47
on 2003-11-15 08:46 [#00951158]
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I love spongebob....
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:49 [#00951162]
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everybody loves spongebob, even bruce willis apparantly, but i feel i really knów him, you know?
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