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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-23 14:53 [#00915486]
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i suppose they are extremely popular unpopular music. you win this one laughing man, but next time, it won't be as easy.
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magicant
from Canada on 2003-10-23 14:59 [#00915497]
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autechre's greatest album: tri repetae
radiohead's best album: kid a
radiohead have no GREAT albums. they're not even epic quality.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-23 15:03 [#00915505]
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now now, we both know ok computer is as epic as things get. apology accepted.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-23 15:28 [#00915534]
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OK Computer is painfully overrated. I like it, but that's it. The Bends is one of my least favourite albums from my collection, Amnesiac is incredibly poor, Pablo Honey is okay, HTTT is great. Kid A I adore.
They're getting progressively worse at electronica, though. Kid A, Idioteque, Like Spinning Plates... these were great.
Worrywort, Backdrifts... okay. The Gloaming was poor. And that thing on the Go To Sleep single sounded like a casio keyboard demo with the melody taken out.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 15:42 [#00915549]
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im not that big fan of autechre either...i like some tracks, thats about it
but i still buy albums from both, autechre and radiohead...in case they come up with a good tune or something :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-23 15:44 [#00915550]
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Amnesiac is incredibly poor, Pablo Honey is okay
:) i couldn't disagree more
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-23 15:48 [#00915555]
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autechre are pretentious? how? they don't hype themselves up or anything, they just get on with it, they don't care what anyone thinks
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nacmat
on 2003-10-23 15:52 [#00915558]
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I love radiohead
I love autechre
I love tolstoyed (in the non homo way)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-23 15:57 [#00915563]
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this discussion is so stupid
on a positive note, radiohead remix EP/LP details here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:08 [#00915573]
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you are full of love arent you? i love you too you know...but dont expect your love will change how i feel about autechre and radiohead
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nacmat
on 2003-10-23 16:08 [#00915574]
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I hate you then
LOL
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:08 [#00915576]
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can you point out the stupid part...please?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:10 [#00915580]
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damn...what have i done now... :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-23 16:22 [#00915600]
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the whole thing. stupid, stupid, stupid. first of all, it's a pointless debate. you like radiohead or you don't. neither opinion "radiohead are gods", "radiohead are overrated/trash", is correct. they're just opinions and with such extreme polarity between them it's pointless to even bother trying to convince someone of what you feel about radiohead. secondly, a lot of you, i'm sorry to say, have opinions that don't carry a lot of weight. either because you just started listening to radiohead in the 2000s (some as recent as this year!) or you just go into it with the wrong thing in mind (radiohead vs. autechre, radiohead vs. my favorite rock band, radiohead vs. the media-created vision of radiohead) or whatever. it's like asking your kid sister about the new talib kweli song. doesn't mean shit. sorry. harsh truth. thirdly, it's a tired debate. even if there was a point to it, or any kind of hope in it, it's already been discussed ad nauseam on here and everywhere else. like i said in point #1, you like them or you don't; move on.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-23 16:26 [#00915609]
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hence my pointing out that these topics always devolve into an autechre vs. radiohead debate, which is so obviously pointless i chose to participate in it :D
i'm sure you're generalizing, but i personally have been listening to radiohead since the bends came out, am aware this debate is tired, but its funny, and my opinion is correct.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-23 16:29 [#00915614]
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of course i'm generalizing, i don't have the time or interest in making points about every single person.. i barely skimmed the damn thread :P
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-23 16:29 [#00915615]
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you're also feeding the fire contributing to this thread, and you're just asking for zeus to pop in and call you a condescending bastard.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:35 [#00915624]
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i see...majority of posts in this thread are just kidding around imo. its always down to music for me, i like some radiohead songs, i liked them a lot once actually (especially when kid a came out), but then i somehow lost interest in them, these days they just seem/sound fake to me. another thing that started to bother me is all the hype about them, which in a way is weird since afx is my fav artist and he's pretty popular aswell, but at least he's surprising me constantly and he's pretty good in controlling himself, he looks like a normal dude, he acts pretty normal he's down to earth guy and most important - his life is music...while radiohead seem to think really high about themselves. but still if they'll release something good i'll sure appreciate it.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-23 16:38 [#00915628]
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I think tolstoyed is a female, so you didn't actually need to add 'in a non homo way'
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-23 16:38 [#00915629]
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while radiohead seem to think really high about themselves
i shouldn't feed the fire, like zaphod said, but i can't help but ask... what makes you think they think really highly of themselves? or that richard doesn't? i think you've got it switched but it's not your fault. if i had to hear about radiohead all the time and i weren't already a big fan i'd probably think they were a bullshit band too.
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big
from lsg on 2003-10-23 16:41 [#00915631]
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so i put on amnesiac for the first time just now, and forgot i did that immediatly, so i thought it was latent quarter coming though my headphones fucked up for a second.
ae should sing too! not really. do you like the ae influence?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:45 [#00915637]
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i havent actually met anyone, but from the impression i've gain watching them perform it seems that way to me
also from the interviews i have read, aphex always seem to be kidding around and making fun of media, while radiohead are mostly trying to impress the media...perhaps i've read all the wrong interviews, but i've read quite some and thats the general impression...
but in any case, afx music just suits me much more so im pretty sure that helped a little with how i understand those interviews :)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-10-23 16:53 [#00915653]
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bah, it just draws me back in. watch meeting people is easy and read up a bit on how the media pretty much shaped radioheads image around thom yorke, who they shaped into being a pretty grim little man, which i don't think he is.
take the music for what it is, don't compare two completely different artists, and maybe you'll actually enjoy the music a bit. if only media didn't exist to give us preconcieved notions about artists...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-23 16:56 [#00915659]
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"if only media didn't exist to give us preconcieved notions about artists"
couldnt agree more!
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-10-23 21:23 [#00915941]
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IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD "THE GLOAMING" live, you're missin' out, it is much better tenfold. Also, I thought "I am citizen insane" was a good nice piece of work. Radiohead is an awesome band, and really puts out a great live act, surpassing the studio cuts by far.
fav. radiohead song at this time: where i end and you begin
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 01:42 [#00916138]
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who cares about the artists behind the music really... Radiohead have been one of my favorite bands since just after The Bends came out (they were my favorite band for years)... I've been listening to them, well that's a good 8 years or so now I guess, and I hardly know anything about them... who cares if they think they're all that... it's the music that counts, judge the music for what it is... and if you don't like it then, then fine... you obviously don't have to... as long as the singer, or artist behind the music isn't some rapist or murderer, it doesn't really matter to me what they're like... sometimes it's interesting, like with Aphex and Boards of Canada, but the music is why I like and liked those people...
and also, adding fuel to the fire and jumping into these stupid comparisons, I personally think Radiohead is 10 times better then Aphex Twin... I haven't listened to Aphex Twin in ages... whenever I put on an album of his, I usually get bored after a few minutes and need to chance to something else... shrug... it's obviously just my opinion...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 01:48 [#00916141]
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I just find it frustrating with Aphex twin though... a group like Autechre, they've been constantly getting better and better at their sound... theres a progression there... and some of their later albums are just amazing works of electronic music... but Aphex Twin in my opinion, it's like he's afraid to really pursue one style and try to perfect that... he jumps around too much... and although that's good sometimes, in this case I find he jumps around too much... like he tries something, releases a so so album of that style, and then tries something else... it's cool in the sense that he's not afraid to try different things, but it'd be nice if he tried to get better at a style... Drukqs has some awesome drill'n bass on it... but it doesn't compare to the freaky and brilliant programming of Squarepusher on Go Plastic... shrug... just my opinion obviously... and here on an aphex message board, I expect some harsh remarks in return! :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-24 02:09 [#00916160]
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I agree with titsworth, it is pointless trying to play one group off against another.
Also I wouldn't really call Radiohead pretentious, I just think they got far too much media credit for their electronic work when in general it really wasn't that good, it was OK, but not praise worthy.
Also Mr Funkmaster Aphex has produced the best version I have ever heard of any style of electronic music he has ever tried (personal opinion of course)...but how you can say he releases so so albums???how can you say that? My least favourite Aphex album is Drukqs and that is still better than Go Plastic (again in my opinion :P)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 02:12 [#00916162]
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I don't know... they sound "so so" to me... :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-24 02:15 [#00916166]
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You didn't start listenening to him till fairly recently did you?
I think it is hard for someone who got into Aphex around Come To Daddy to understand the impact the likes of ICBYD and RDJ Album had at the time and I can see that without the nostalgia element some of the tracks could seem a little outdated.
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welt
on 2003-10-24 04:15 [#00916230]
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16 year old girls from my school talk about how beautiful radiohead's music is. and then they talk about how sexy robbie williams is and that they wanna marry rich men, because being rich makes you hot.
that's how radiohead fans are.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-10-24 04:19 [#00916240]
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hahaha
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-24 04:20 [#00916243]
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Go Plastic better than Drukqs? BOING!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 04:21 [#00916245]
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hey, I'll put on Autechre, and then right after put on Madonna, or Tears for Fears... I guess Autechre sucks too!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 04:21 [#00916248]
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man, Go Plastic blows Drukqs out of the water!!! :P
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nacmat
on 2003-10-24 05:34 [#00916321]
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you mean in your opinion right?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-10-24 05:38 [#00916323]
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you dont like aphex... THEN WHAT ARE YA DOING HERE??
but then again its a free world..
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nacmat
on 2003-10-24 05:46 [#00916327]
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he loves aphex, he just decided to be diferent saying how much aphex bores him now and he says so 3 or 4 times a day... but in his lonely nights he still listens to our praised richard
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-24 05:55 [#00916335]
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well, I used to love him, but now not so much... shrug... there's better music then Aphex Twin...
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-10-25 22:43 [#00918522]
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i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive....there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies....i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive....there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies, there'll be no more lies....i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive, i will eat you alive......
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-26 00:02 [#00918545]
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i saw thom yorke on jonothan ross show t'other week and he didnt seem like a grim little man at all! seemed quite a happy chappie actually. not that i would care if he turned out to be a hunchbacked goblin (not much imagination needed there i fancy) cos i would still listen to everything in its right place et al and enjoy every second (with the possible exception of the bits i dont like)
httf wasnt great, but so long as they return to form next time around i personally dont give a fuck if they call the album 'save the whales' and start wearing t shirts saying 'look at me.. IM PRETENCIOUS!!!'
cos its all about the music baby.. thats what its all about... the music... SHAzaaM
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-26 06:22 [#00918921]
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of course there is, no-one is the greatest artist ever and besides its all subjective. He is however, imo 'one of' the best.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-26 10:20 [#00919063]
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yeah, so that's obviouslyu all my opinion... and yes to ecnadniarb, I only started listening to Aphex and all this a few years ago... so it's new... I just got bored of Aphex Twin is all...
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2008-04-01 12:58 [#02190417]
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awesome.
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-04-01 14:06 [#02190437]
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MY OPINION IS RIGHTER THAN YOUR OPINION.
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