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me harold bishop lou carpenter mrs mangel susan kennedy pam willis doug willis bronwyn |
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can i be my own group? |
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you can be your own ass |
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the thread is dyin' |
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great!! free poo for all members! |
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its weird man... I havnt seen a noticeable pattern really... I posted here for about a month or 2 before I posted my music. I think that was good, because then people already knew me, and so when I posted it, people where interested to hear it. But ive had times where Ive gotten over 30 replies, and times where Ive gotten 4. Id say the best thing to do is: 1. Talk with people. Not many people will be interested in checking out someones music they dont know. Like someone said before, this place isnt MEANT for sharing tracks. Its just a natural development: Alot of people here make music. There is easy access. Its just logical that it would happen. 2. Talk about music making with people. Discuss your equipment of choice. Discuss gear, and tricks... a good way for people to listen to your music, is if they share the same ideas as you. If they read alot that you use only Reason, and do drumnbass, and you have this certain method you use... after awhile, they will be interested in hearing how you apply all this into music. 3. Be persistant. This ones a hard one. On the one hand, I think my persistance got alot of people to listen to my stuff. Once you get a few people listening, others will see there is a good amount of replies, and open the thread. (If I see a thread that is at the bottom of the list, with no replies, Im going to assume at least several people checked it out, but didnt comment, because they didnt like it enough to. But on the other hand... I did piss a few people off with my constant attempts to get my music heard. Dont over do it... but also realise that there will ALWAYS be people who think that youre over doing it, in the spam department. Fuck em. 4. If your music is good, eventually, people will recognize this, and the word will spread. Plenty of topics come up, (can be completely unrelated topics) and someone might mention "oh hey, so-and-sos track reminds me of this" or something to that extent... The harsh truth is though... if you make music that is "bad" (subject |
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The harsh truth is though... if you make music that is "bad" (subjective term, I know) people wont want to keep listening. But hey, thats life. Thats why the medicore guitar player in Nashville wont ever be as popular as, say Carlos Sanatana. It sucks, but its true. Anyways... yeah. Just, do your thing. But remember, this ISNT a board designed specifically for sharing music... and the more you complain, the less likely people will acknowladge you. |
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well this is true maybe i have a bad day today ? |
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zeus youre a board guru :D |
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Props to you for summing it up nicely Zeus. Maybe you are just having a bad day hyakusen, chuck some BoC on and open a beer :) |
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10,000 of my 10,026 points is spam... ;) |
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yeah - i dont like to complain on anything but really this thing was biting me inside from few weeks...now i know what is all about and its ok now im calm as i wanted to be beer :) |
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its all about people. |
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whenever i love a piece of music from someone on here i post. sometimes it's an hour, a day, a week, even a month after it's posted, but i'll say something. if i don't say anything it either sucked, was mediocre, or i didn't bother with it. some artists on here i stopped bothering with because they don't do anything for me, and that includes some of the most popular artists here. it's not a dis, i'm not naming names, just being honest with ya cos i check out lots of people's music and sometimes don't say anything. |
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I'm not being funny but that isn't summing anything up. the simple fact of the matter is that a) People can't listen to stuff because they are at work. b) People can't listen to stuff because they are on a slow modem connection c) People just can't be arsed either listening or commenting. My view is that if you have bothered to listen, whether you like the track or not, you can type a few lines. There are tons of things I haven't liked on here, but I wouldn't stop listening to their new stuff because I didn't like their old stuff. I know from my own music making since I started 6 months ago my style has developed and changed, and I also make vastly different sounding things, like a lot of the people here. Also some of the most popular artists here can get shit loads of positive responses for tracks which are quite frankly mediocre and boring and that will never change, you always get cliques that will big each other up. Just as an add on note...hyakusen makes some of the best music on the board, very BoCish and mellow. He, along with only about 3 others makes it into my play list all the time, and I do think his music has been slept on a bit. Maybe that is just due to differing taste, but I don't really think so. |
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Ceri I don't think I have ever seen a track that you have posted. I have listened to a couple of your tracks but that was through your profile a while ago. Oh and I fucking hate people who say comment on my shit tonight and I will comment on yours tomorrow and thecunts just disappear fo a few weeks before coming back to spam a little bit more. |
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well, I think A. and B. are both irrelavent to this... because we are talking about people some people getting lots of responses, opposed to some people getting overlooked. The subject at hand is there ARE a good number of people that listen to music. Why are they listening to some, and not others? C. Yeah, but sometimes I listen to a track... and I just cant think of anything to say. Perhaps I just dont like a single thing about it. None of my comments would really be constructive, because in effect, id be saying "change everything". you know? And I dont like saying "didnt like it. sorry" If Im gonna say that, Im gonna say why. And yeah, I do listen to some peoples stuff that I didnt like before, later on, because I do know that people improve. But I usually wait a few months between listens, because improvement (usually) doesnt happen that fast. "Also some of the most popular artists here can get shit loads of positive responses for tracks which are quite frankly mediocre and boring and that will never change, you always get cliques that will big each other up. " and while I do agree to some extent... I stand by my opinion that most of the popular, well recieved stuff on here, is well recieved and popular for a good reason: its good. And to be fair... ive seen alot of the "popular" people get told frankly when their music wasnt as good as before. |
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'youre forgetting that some people just want to listen opinions - without interfering in community like this' well fuck them and theirr music then. i don't have time to listen to peoples music when they can't even be arrsed to interract with me. |
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people will downlaod what htey think will be good eventually someone will download a track of yours, and like it, and boast about it, and then someone else will download your track, and so forth it takes time. |
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I've noticed that some people are starting to notice things on this notice board............ |
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Make a thrread |
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I'd probably be inclined to check out more people's music if I weren't on a dial-up connection, but the fact of the matter is, I find a lot of stuff around here kind of boring... Haven't heard yours, Hyakusen. |
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Yeah, if anything, people seem to be more honest with the "better recieved" artists here. They know that they have enough good comments. I mean, look at flea and raimons- I'm a lot more harsh in critcising their stuff as they've set the bar that much higher for themselves with their past work... Oh and to clarify what I said earlier, for a long time I was in work, so listening to people's stuff was either a risk or a pain to remember when I got home and hence I only listened to stuff I knew/looked good. ecnadniarb: I tend to only post links to tracks I really think are worth other people DLing or that I genuinely want feedback on to bear in mind for a remix or similair. Alsoyes, those people who say they'll check your stuff out then dissappear annoy me too. I make a mental note and "blacklist" them so I won't DL their stuf fin future. Petty I know, but it's amusing and fair in a strange way... |
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Number one: Why aren't I on the cool list? ;) Number two: I make music. I know that some of it is crap, some of it is good, a few tracks are very good. I have never uploaded any of it because to be honest I don't care what others think, because in the end its what I think. For example AFX has loads of unreleased tracks which he thinks are crap, which some people (maybe most) will love, but he doesn't like them so thats that. If I want a review, I would send to Sound on Sound magazine, or send a demo to warp/rephlex/who ever. Why would I want a bunch of people who Ive never met,who could all be little 13 year old bitch boy synchophants to go 'yeah its great'. If a track was good, I would know its good and wouldnt need people to tell me. Now stop arguing you 13 year olds. hehehehe |
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Word!! |
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Make me make a thread! |
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Most cutting Dave :) I've decided to go for the PMC06 Pro D and I'm saving up for it at the moment. Have you seen the vestax faderboard? might be handy for making your sort of music, but it's a bit pricey... |
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what is this faderboard you speak of? i may have seen it. ive got way too many things in my head. it sounds familiar, ill do a google on it. Yeah good choice, the 06D is solid would like to upgrade my 06A to a D, but also I want some new decks and an akai z8 and a ms20 so its bottom of the list. Was I cutting? it didnt seem like it. perhaps Im the bitch boy. (or not) |
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If a track was good, I would know its good and wouldnt need people to tell me. true. but you can still want other people to listen to it! right? |
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You weren't really cutting (just scratching ;P), I was just joshing. www.faderboard.com Sort of a sampler with mixer type controls and an intelligent loop tuning/stretching engine. |
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viktor: Im just a tease. I may upload, but I have no network between internet pc and music pc, due to being on different floors. and no cdr in music machine-need to get one. oh and a 56k modem. ceri: ive seen that gizmo before. i really need to play on one in a shop before i can say whether is good or bad really. its a good idea. im also designing my own additive synth, ive mentioned it before in more detail a couple of posts ago. |
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Yes, that's my main problem. In order to give myself the neccessary willpower to save up for something (or at least, it makes it a lot easier to do so) I need to have a go on one first. None of the stores near me will let you demo stuff other than their shite £50 gemini mixers that are worn out from little kids fucking about with them. I asked for them to order me a PMC 06 Pro D a while back while I was working (and hence could afford one) on the understanding that I could demo it and if I liked it, I'd buy it there. They said something along the lines of they could order it, but they'd need 25 or 50% (I forget which) of the cash up front and if I didn't want it after dmoing it, the deposit was non refundable. Stupid really, if they would just ask for a few reduced price demo models from the suppliers I'm sure they'd sell far more of the premium stuff. No one is going to spend £1000 on a bit of hardware they've never had a go on... |
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I dont like the idea of the vestax thingy. smartmedia? hmm my sp303 has that and to be honest its crap.(the smartmedia for audio concept) basically i think vestax stuff(like fx) is a bit too imbetweeny. its not one thing or another but then its not like alesis airFx or anything, bizarre! Shops are really annoying like that, although in my experience places like turnkey are great, but thats in london, so bit of a trek for you, why not make a day of it? Something to do before you go back to uni? I really would love to have the time to make my own little box of tricks too. If I ever do ever get round to doing this synth, its gunna be a sort of hybrid like the vestax thingy, but better! (dare to dream). wow weve changed this topic from people bitching to people being nerdy about equipment:) |
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Yes, I'm currently working on a system that does a similair job to the faderboard that uses Ableton live and a midi controller (it's getting there...) in a simialir way to the faderboard. I've started doing a hip hop track using it and it's not too bad. (read more about it ). The smartmedia put me off a bit- I could see how loading several different songs into it of a night could be hard in a performance situation. It'd be nice if there was a decent menu system on it and an internal HD (they're cheap enough these days!) The prototype of the faderboard that shingo2 made and took to vestax to get them to develop was actually made from an 8 track and some other bits and pieces. Ah, the pacifying effect of tech talk, silences any room and dissapates all tension ;D |
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dave: it would be argued that any artist out there who releases their stuff (be it you, me, or Aphex) have some amount of ego. You need to in order to have the desire, and/or balls to share your music. If getting joy out of sharing my music, and knowing that people out there enjoy it, means Im egocentrical, then so be it. But every artist you ever listened to is the same way, or else you would have never heard of them. I personally find it a great feeling to know that there are people who can connect with my music, and enjoy it. Music is a language. Use it to speak! |
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And about what you where saying about sending it to that review place or whatever... thats equivilant to saying "I can speak fluent italian... but Im not going to speak it with other people who can merely speak it. Im only going to speak italian with proffessors of the italian language." Alittle silly no? |
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Yes, it's a nice thought that somewhere on the other side of the world, someone is listening to your music and enjoying it and you don't even know they have a copy or that you have ever spoken to them before. |
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i had a bit of problem with not getting response in general, i like new people and therefor reply to them if i have something to say these days i just ask for response every two hunderds post or so: like: hey, i'm pretty funny, dont you think :) |
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o, and about the music: i sometimes listen to something (computer slow and stuff), but only when à feel up to it |
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we're not making pop here are we? |
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