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offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:19 [#00863151]
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yes, and if she told me that sucks

if she didn't tell me, but didn't stop, I'd assume, that
sucks too

---------
I just can't handle it, and while that may not be fair or
rational, if she had a fear of spiders, i wouldn't keep a
tarantula by my bed......


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 22:24 [#00863152]
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cant you get help for that, it's something to work on,
having that big of a problem with drinking, because people
drink and you'd get confronted with that anyway, it's
nothing to be ashamed of.
it's a waist throwing you're relationship away on that..


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:26 [#00863154]
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well, you definitely need to talk to her anyways...

and just because you mighten be willing to bend doesn't mean
your bond with her isn't strong... just means this is an
important thing to you... but you shouldn't expect her to
change... if she was willing to openly, then that's a
different thing, but you can't expect it... you're the one
who has a problem with something she is doing, so my feeling
is that it's your job to try and be understanding about
that...

but me personally anyways, I've always been of the opinion
that people who drink, and people who don't wouldn't make
very good companions anyways... because the people who drink
want to do that on the weekends, and the ones who don't want
to do other stuff... at least where I'm from drinking is a
way of life almost... and so if you don't do it, you ain't
going to really get along well with the ones who do I don't
think... just my opinion anyways...



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:27 [#00863155]
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yeah, this is lingering from the incident with the drunk
driver, and like big said, you're going to encounter people
who drink throughout your life... maybe you could see
someone about dealing with this fear or something... cause
it's true, if you're both really in love it'd be a shame to
throw it away!


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:28 [#00863159]
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you guys give sage advice. I wouldn't post stuff like this
here otherwise.

If I don't want to change my mindset, if I am stubborn,
should I wait it out? I mean, most people grow out of the
need to get drunk at a party once they are out of college?

or Funk, do you think I should just stick to my own loser
leauge and find a girl who makes choices more closely
resembaling mine?


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:30 [#00863163]
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it's not even the death thing as much, it's really how all
my friends just fell away, and never made it like we all
thought we would.

it's a lifetime of regrets. and it was almost me too, but
for somereason I didn't start popping pills and drinking and
end up kicked out of house and blah blah blah.

I am thankfull, but don't want a repeat, of when everythign
good went sour just for drinking and drugs. I couldn't
handle that again.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:36 [#00863165]
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"I am thankfull, but don't want a repeat, of when everythign
good went sour just for drinking and drugs. I couldn't
handle that again. "

nod, well that's understandable... but you said yourself she
doesn't drink that much... I believe you said twice a month?
That's not that bad... not like she's an alcoholic, and is
ruining her life or anything... and she's understandable
about you not wanting to drink is she? So she's not putting
pressure on you, and trying to drag you down so to speak...
personally I think you should try and be understanding about
it... try not to worry so much about it... loads of people
drink, and not all them are alcoholics... just trust that
she's a responsible drinker... but again, that's just my
opinion, and what I think I would do... but I think I would
be able to do that cause I have nothing against drinking
really, I just don't myself... but if you can't be ok with
it, then maybe it isn't working... but it's not for me to
say... just follow your heart I guess!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:38 [#00863168]
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i know its not what you want to hear...

but I seriously think this is something YOU need to come to
terms with

it sounds like you really care for her... and I dont think
this should be wasted over her drinking every now and then

but do tell her it hurts... tell her everything you told us
(except the "maybe i should find someone else" bit)

but if she chooses to keep drinking... dont take it as an
insult to you, or that she doesnt love you... its just you
have 2 different views...



 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 22:38 [#00863169]
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i know tons of people that drink alot and havent gotten into
problems like that
also i have aunts and uncles that are 60 and still party at
family birthdays and such: so it wont really go away. people
get drunk and do stupid stuff but most of the time learn to
control it.
again i think you shouldnt break up over it, and again what
i said. but that is easier said then done (for me as well as
you), and maybe you dont want to get over the problem you
have with drinking because of the terrible experiences
you've had with it, and maybe you already have seriously
tried.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:39 [#00863172]
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haha, the eternal George problem.

my heart says yes, my brain says no.

fucking shit


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:40 [#00863173]
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echo... what are your thoughts on pot?

do have a problem with ALL substances?


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 22:41 [#00863175]
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funny how you're being helpful and have that avatar zeus,
really, it moves me, im tired


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:42 [#00863179]
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well, listen to your heart... the brain doesn't know
anything about love! :)


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 22:42 [#00863180]
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Seinfeld's George? isnt that the body and the brain


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:42 [#00863181]
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yeah, find out if she has a problem with pot... if she does,
then you start smoking it... then you'll be even! ;)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:43 [#00863182]
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the penis and the brain isn't it? And wasn't it Jerry that
that was about?


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-14 22:43 [#00863183]
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Man BlatantEcho's threads grow like WILD FLOWERS! :D


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:44 [#00863186]
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hmmm, all this talk just brings to light how pathetic my
love life, or lack there of, really is! :(


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:44 [#00863187]
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I don't have a problem with drugs, alcohol whatever, but
only from a distance.

I can't let it get close to me. My friends drink, and I
think it's hilarious. I can be around them drunk and me
stone sober, and it's funny.

My friends all smoked, drank, X, coke, whatever, and while I
got away from them at some point, I never judged them or
told them not too.

But when I get really close to people, a girlfriend,
whatever, I just clam up about it all. I just can't handle
it when it's so close to me.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-14 22:45 [#00863190]
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but you said you could be around your friends while they
were drunk and you sober... so why not your girlfriend as
well?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:47 [#00863196]
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so it would bother you if she got high?


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 22:48 [#00863198]
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to close.........too close to home


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:00 [#00863224]
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no dice on that either........

again, far away from me is ok........otherwise.....


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:09 [#00863240]
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well you do have tipsy
and totally drunk, or what zeus said, and high on crap like
coke

girls that are cute drunk, or stoned, are cute

i thought the point, for whatever that means, of star trek,
eh, seinfeld was that they were all pretty heartless, that
was what the last episode was about. i dont know the exact
episode about this. i remember the deal with elaine though:
" when we do thát it doesnt oblige one party to sleep over
or anything" . " right, sleeping over is optional."


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:14 [#00863247]
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well... if you really are against your partner being
completely substance free... then perhaps you should find
someone that has the same mind set...

:-\


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:15 [#00863249]
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err

if you really are against it AND YOU WANT your partner
being... etc


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:16 [#00863251]
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i hope it wont come down to that though.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:17 [#00863253]
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yeah


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:19 [#00863257]
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when the heart and mind are at odds.....

fuck


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:20 [#00863260]
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there are somethings that you and your partner need to be on
the same level about...

certain views on life...

this one sounds like a major thing... and thats why I say
maybe you arnt compatable...

for example... i could never be with a racist. even if she
was a great girl, to me, and we had so much in common...
that one thing is just too important for me... and i would
have to put an end to it...

something things are just very important to be on agreeance
about... and this means alot to you...

*NOTE: IM NOT saying break up! Work with her first... talk
to her... see if you can resolve this


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:21 [#00863261]
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I don't know what I want, but I know what makes me
uncomfortable.

Is it worth it to me? I don't know, it doesn't feel like
it.

What are the chances of finding someone else who thinks like
me, or has the same mindset? Will I ever find a girl like
that who also sails and cares about me like the current
one?

When do you call it quits, when do you fight through?

You all have given wonderful advice, and what I have learned
is that I need to let go. Just let go. If it is meant to
be it is meant to be.

If I fight it, I will ruin it anyway. I need to pay
attention to how I feel, not feel bad for how I feel, and
work with it, but not force anything.

I have little control over this anyway, so I think I need to
step back and see what happens.....


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:29 [#00863267]
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What are the chances of finding someone else who thinks
like
me, or has the same mindset? Will I ever find a girl like
that who also sails and cares about me like the current
one?

when you say stuff like that you almost have broken up, i
think
i'd like to add to zeus' last post about it being to big of
a point for you and therefor not able to go on: the other
option of course is making the problem less big for you, and
work on thát (and maybe professionally).
all probably has been said now, a few times, but if it makes
stuff clearer..


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:30 [#00863268]
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good

yes, my advice is to try to solve the problem within
yourself first

if she means that much to you


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:31 [#00863271]
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i don't really want to solve my end of the problem. it's
not a problem until situations like this.

but I think I need to step back and see what is important to
me. Let go and see what comes back to me


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-14 23:43 [#00863287]
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no i think you need to work on it, because people drink,
otherwise you'll lose friends over it too, friends should be
as close to you as a gf.

also with 'let go and see what comes back' you're, if not
saying she shouldnt drink, giving up for you're part. but if
youre not willing to work on it for her, then, yes, maybe it
shouldnt be.
i'm not judging, only saying what i think you are saying


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-09-14 23:50 [#00863292]
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i can be close to my friends, but not a girlfriend

maybe I'm just jealous, fuck if I know.

I used to volunteer at a food kitchen the nights I know she
was out partying, just to try and balance myself.

could just be a jealously thing mixed with fear of being
ditched for a good time.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-15 03:01 [#00863398]
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IT really depends on the girl.

I can tell my gf absolutely anything, coz she's so fuckign
cool. She HATES nangs, but lets me do them even when she's
in the room she just laughs at me when I start falling out
of my seat.

She knows I love porn and she's cool with it.

And she doesn't know I've been to strip clubs coz it's never
come up, but she'd be cool with that.

Soem girls are just too AGAINST some things. Well no fuck
that it's peopl in GENERAL.
And a lot of us are probably part of that group, there's
probably something that most of us go "No. Fuck that. I will
never go out with someone who likes/doesn't liek THNIS
THING".
I know I've heard a lot of people on this forum and other
stating that they will not go out with a girl who cannot
appreciate aphex's music.

It's kind of the same hting. It's fucked up. People and
their closed minds.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-15 03:10 [#00863402]
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whoa my ost makes no sense in the topic I'm sorry I am
retarded after all.

Man, the only advice I can give you is do your best not to
let shit get to you coz think of it this way
1) you get over it, she's cool, you're cool, happy ending
2) you let it get to ya, it goes downhill from there.

I used to get liek that with previous gf's. Very paranoid
and shit, and not letting them smoke and stuff (before I
started) and they all went downhill, now I've kind of
learned to be a lot calmer in relationships, and it really
has dopne wonders.

I know it's not THAT simple....it's something you really
have to work on,,,but work it


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-15 03:13 [#00863404]
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I tell her the time of day when she asks.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-15 03:26 [#00863410]
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We're talking excessive drinking here right? On what
frequency? Have there been any negative consequences of this
so far, apart from your problem with it?


 

offline manifestevil from Australia on 2003-09-15 03:40 [#00863415]
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i tell my girl evrything she tells me evryhting, we've
never had dramas cause we're completely honest and i
have no need 4 strip clubs cause i'm gettin enuf action
allready.


 


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