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thoose aren't bambi-eyes. They're rabies-eyes. |
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so what if dubya doesn't wanna have the U.S. turn into a homo-lovin', dope-smokin' abortion-supportin' buncha theist hippies like those goddang Canadians?!? but on a serious tip, it is rather worrying that no serious political opposition to Bush's proposed candidacy (it will not be officially declared until september) has not emerged up to this point. granted, as an encumbant candidate, statistically-speaking there is quite a great likelihood that he will remain in office, but given a strong and viable enough of an alternative from a democratic (or preferably, a green-party - though when pigs fly in the U.S.A., unfortunately) candidate, this will hopefully prove not to be the case. |
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I think a lot about the US is rather worrying, aswell as a lot of things going on in EU, and is going to happen in EU. So many people just don't know what they are doing. and they're destroying the lives of people. |
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they are destroying everything. |
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which is exaclty why we need Bushie for 4 more years - this will bring about a greater likelihood of an all-out nuclear annihilation, resulting in the final, definitive destruction of humankind, thereby simultaneously eliminating all human concerns! problems solved for all of eternity! yay! |
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the U.S. has to hurry up and conquor everything so when the aliens attack, we are done squabbling amongst ourselves and can focus all of the world's nuclear arsenal toward the tentaculared mega ship. AIM FOR THE EYE STALKS!!! IT"S OUR ONLY CHANCE!! |
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He'll stay. Popular vote or not. The motherfucker'll find a way. This is Not A Good Thing. I imagine that the US-UK (government) slide to the right will continue until things are COMPLETELY fucked, and by that time it'll be too late. US vs (insert nation / ethnic group here) violence will fuel more "patriot" (?!?!?!) acts and civil liberty crackdowns yet more acceptance from the public at large. Most people won't care until it affects THEM, how they eat, move, shop etc. As long as bush and his little clique can keep the public reassured / frightened they have little problem. |
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To Promo: These are facts, coming from the Florida public records: A company which manages databases containing voter-rolls for Florida citizens was payed a couple of million dollars to basiccaly scrub out unqualified voters. In Florida you're unqualified if you've ever been sentenced for a crime (Bush has been arrested three times by the way). The thing was that the database company's workers began to get spooked when they discovered that many black voters where scrubbed from the voter-rolls (blacks votes for democrats almost without exception) whitout any reason whatsoever. They mailed the Florida official Kathy Harris about this and got orders to ignore it - this is also available through public e-mail records in Florida. They produced a new list with blacklisted voters, now with a few real criminals but still 90% innocent voters. Some of the crimes was, according to that list, commited in ficticious dates like 2010 and 2007, some where even labled criminals at dates predating their birth. These are no conspiracy theories, it's totally available in the public records, but the american media doesn't do a good job so it took a BBC reporter to uncover this. See the clips about it here: and here: |
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Blah blah blah whatever. |
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Yes, but can you hear bats? |
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Yeah...your stance on this makes me scared. Unfortunatley you're not alone with that view. Terrible crimes are commited in our names every day, but we seldom hear about them in the western media. To blindly support these guys is to blindly support opression and violence in many forms against harmless people in many many countries around the world. This has been going on since the days of colonisation, and it goes on as we write here, but all we ever hear is that we in the west are the peak of civilisation. I believe this is starting to break up now, but it's not going to be easy. Blah blah blah whatever. |
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Promo, like all good propogandists, failed to mention one vital thing - Bush is a failed businessman. Yes, even having all of daddy's money didn't help make him a good businessman. And don't forget who is businessman, one Mr. Bin Laden, brother of Usama. |
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yikes - promo will negate all I said because I typed something wrong ! "... who was a business partner. one Mr. ..." |
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I goddam hate the hypocracy of people who right shit against Bush. What they fail to appreciate is that politics is a dirty game whether it be democrats, republicans, green party or whoever else. Allegiances switch and deals are done. This is what goes on. On the whole the way Bush conducted himself during the election campaign made Gore just look like a buffon. Gore tried some pretty dirty tricks which got exposed and it backfired against him. So as a consequence a large part of the public decided that they didn't want that sort of man as president. So the vote was always fair and the right candidate won. |
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Gore tried some pretty dirty tricks which got exposed and it backfired against him. buh? |
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joakimlinden, Please grow up loser. More violence and oppression goes on in the world without colonialism. You only have to look to the muslim states and African countries. Slavery, oppression and constant warfare. We've been out of the picture for a long time and basically these countries have made a royal fuck up of things. We are not to blaim. We left all our collonies in very very strong economic and politcal shape. So I will not take blaim and will never take blaim for these countries own messes. |
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Considering Bush was a protege of Richard Nixon, it's a bit rich accusing Gore of this. In their debates, it was Gore who tried to concentrate on issues, whilst Bush decried 'Washington Speak' and condescended Gore for being intelligent and knowledgeable. The right candidate DID win - Al Gore. |
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marlowe, You really are a sad fucking bastard. |
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Woohoo, promo !! |
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and you are an entirely irrelevant person. |
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I said CAN YOU HEAR BATS |
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Oh god that was funny. Lol. |
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fleetmouse, Please translate. |
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I agree with you on this one thing: Politics is a dirty game. But I'll bet my ass that it doesn't have to be, that it shouldn't in fact. Bush happens to be a prefect target though, he has a long family history of criminals and thugs and he is not very bright, according to the different schools he nearly finished at. Listen: If people working the UN says to you that "well, bombing Afghanistan now - in the state that it is in after your funding of Osama & c.o. so that they would drive out the Russians - will indirectly cause the death of about one hundred thousand or more civilians, is this what you want?" "Let's bomb those bastards from the face of this earth!" "Well, why not negotiate with the Talibans when they offer to hand over your main man?" "No one tells us what to do!" RATATATAT! Now, when the dust has settled in Afghanistan, people have begun to collect evidence of the untold atrocities taking place there, under american supervision: Hundreds of people being loaded into containers without breathing holes, so some soldiers start to shoot right into the containers... People inside are screaming for their lives, blood is pouring out. The trucks travel on. When they arrive some of the Taliban soldiers inside are taken and shot in the head. There are massgraves being unearthed in Afghanistan now, but nothing is reported in mainstream media here. Ah, I'm tired... I'll leave you alone now promo. |
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Roflmao. Are you running out of arguments ? |
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Take a break from all fighting, and relax in topic. |
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whats the alternative? all politicions are scumbags.. |
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Well, I think it was a relatively civil discussion until promo started to run out of arguments and started to insult people. Well, he didn't have any real argument in the first place... |
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just playing cat and mouse |
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You remind me of these fundamentalist Christians I debate on this other messageboard that I visit once in awhile. There logic is similar to yours (because it lacks the things that make up a logical argument). Any relation to these people? |
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Please remove a "started" there. |
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drugs make typing hard. :D |
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what logic? Instead of responding to people's points, he resorts to clichéd insults and incoherence. Similar, indeed, to George W. Bush. This is why I believe he's irrelevant. |
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I'd just like to say that I don't care one way or the other about this subject, or anything related to it. Unless somehow someone can find a way to make it relate to chocolate, tasty music or tasty girlies. And I'd also like to say that, after ages of indifference, I'm starting to get a funny kinda feeling for her in fleetmouse's avatar. |
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Politics go so good with beer. |
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weatheredstoner, Logic. No logic has been presented. Just a bunch of rants. You want to smash Bush. And therefore thats what you go about doing. Its that straight forward. You're only doing it because he is rightwing and you are a crypto-communist. |
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Someone put that on a t-shirt and send it to the white house! |
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dariusgriffin, You guys can argue until the clouds come home. Thats about all your good for 'cause you ain't gonna be able to do much else. |
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These are Pixies lyrics. |
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do you even know what a crypto-communist is? Or was it fed into your slot, ready to be printed out in your brain and recited back. |
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dariusgriffin, You're a pixie. Thats why you wanna lash out at the world eh? Feeling a bit small eh? |
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Then it is even more imperative that we get that t-shirt to the white house! |
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:: mousie dances with the pixie :: teehee, the welfare state pays us to run a gay crisis support hotline! |
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Lol. |
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Yes marlowe=cypto-communist. Marlowe=anti-capitalism, anti-war (let oppressed people rot 'cause I'm too pussy), anti-successful and wealthy people, anti-free state (prefers the earnings of people who are successful to be taxed the living shit out off), anti-corporate (all corporations are wrong because they make money which gets taxed and goes back into the country to pay for public services and also the services and technologies that they provide to further mankind we can't allow and they aren't fair because they require motivated individuals who wish themselves to be successful and wealthy to push them forward) the list goes on and on. |
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so, that's a no then is it ? |
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marlowe, Well you tell me. |
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I believe the onus is on you, since you are the one touting the phrase. |
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i decided to stop voting for politicians. unless i'm voting against them. |
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i hate to piss on your parade, but to let you in on a little secret the political and economic system is far more complex than you seem to perceive it. as an example, the percentage of corporate taxes in contrast to that of tax revenue raised from individual citizens is actually quite miniscule. as a matter of fact, in vast majority of capitalist economies, corporations with signficant enough political clout have the benefit of significantly reduced tax rates. you seem to have a ridiculously trustworthy and optimistic view of the good intentions of for-profit corporations. the problem lies in the fact that their very being for-profit positions the generation of wealth over any other aims (such as preseving the environment, etc. - as they are seen as not profitable). |
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