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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-06-21 12:22 [#00750562]
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i called around town the day it came out. no one even had it in their systems. fucking canadians.
but you all say it's shit anyways. so i won't bother.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-06-21 15:02 [#00750770]
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i find this release quite good actually , not over joyed i must admit, but its pretty bold.
oh and i m 100 per cent with you shatterproof...a lot of my friends dont even buy records anymore... :(
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hobbes
from age on 2003-06-21 15:03 [#00750771]
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...its like they cant buy an ep but they eat at mc donalds everyday.....
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-21 16:38 [#00750864]
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I will always buy CD's.
But not this. I listened to it in the store...there's clever noise, and then there's noise. This is noise. Full stop.
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-06-21 16:41 [#00750866]
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oh, t h a n k s for reminding me, I thought it was the law.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 16:42 [#00750867]
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there...everyone that is complaining...see how easy it is!
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-06-21 16:44 [#00750868]
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"avart, please note that that's your own opinion." - oh, t h a n k s for reminding me, I thought it was the law.
"COME ON! music involves brain activity! don't be so lazy!"
- that reply was actually quite amusing, really funny, is this your own opinion, something you recently figured out?
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-21 17:02 [#00750884]
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i've already posted my opinon on smojphace.
as for file sharing & mp3's, i think it is great. i, for one, get most of the music i listen to now through soulseek, and burn cds. if i like the album enough, i buy it on vinyl.
now, i understand most musicians make music to make money. BUT i have always felt that music should be free, because it's not something you can contain. you can't stop air waves from carrying sound, can you? like ijonspeches said: it's like an advanced form of radio. whats to keep you from making tapes from the radio? same thing.
i'm also not just saying this because i like to get music free, but i am a musician myself, and i make my music as cheap as i can make it. if anyone wants it, i put the whole thing together myself and charge only for the cost of the materials. i'm not interested in profit from my music, because it is my art. i won't sell my art. only the materials. sorry i'm rambling...
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-06-21 17:04 [#00750886]
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tolstoyed: you are so right, it is unfortunatly easier to complain and whine about others lousy music than doing the good music yourself.
and - of course that goes for myself included...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 17:14 [#00750891]
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hmm, i meant that more like for the people that are complaining about buying it and not liking it afterwards
you can always check it out first and then buy it if you like it
as for "you are so right, it is unfortunatly easier to complain and whine about others lousy music than doing the
good music yourself." - if he's (rdj) being a musician, he could have shown some more quality in what he releases (tho it could be that he/some fans actually like this release) - especially becuase he's selling his music!
i belive most of people on this mb, dont sell their music so i think they have the right to bash something if they dont like it :)
(hehe, dont take me too seriously at the moment...im pretty much under the influence)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 17:16 [#00750894]
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so...your music any good? :)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-21 17:36 [#00750930]
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just die you corporate scum
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-21 17:54 [#00750946]
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tolstoyed: nope, wanna hear?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 17:56 [#00750948]
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sure...you have it on your site?
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-21 17:59 [#00750951]
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no, thats old actually...i'll put it up on soulseek
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-21 17:59 [#00750952]
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search for aubuc user: forck_02lynix
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-21 18:13 [#00750963]
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huh, thats a proble...i havent found out yet how to use soulseek
what would you say your style is like? uptempo? downtempo?
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-21 18:38 [#00750979]
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ok just put that stuff up, sorry that you don't have slsk.
go to www.slsk.org and download the latest version if you don't already have it
or if you have it but you don't know how to use it, ummm....figure it out! :D no really, it's not hard to use at all
well, aubuc is ambient essentially, mostly experimental and i put up some of my primary stuff: invisible man: found - that's rockish, although i hate using the word rock to describe my stuff. hold on see the new thread
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-21 22:23 [#00751118]
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hey, johnny depp was a pirate! he's cool.
if p2p is theft then i'm Rodney King dammit...........castrate me!!!!
what if i'm female, huh??? then what are u gonna do??
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-21 22:25 [#00751121]
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j/k
these threads are funny. i love the protagonists and antagonists in this story called life.
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-22 02:47 [#00751271]
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Okay I just heard it the first time and have to say it would be an okay tune for must 2nd class ragga jungle producer but in fact that our great afx made it - well it sucks......................... boring boring boring
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 03:46 [#00751300]
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*castrated*
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 03:50 [#00751305]
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I DONT KNOW WHAT KIND OF A PLACE THIS WORLD IS IF EVEN LADIES PARTICIPATE IN THIS FIENDISH THING
ARRGHH
filesharing = artists starving!
i just dunna what to do with you, you fallen woman
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 03:59 [#00751308]
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and of course, j/k about all this
(in case someone was going to launch hax0r attacks on my corporate ass)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-22 04:20 [#00751320]
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filesharing=raising the middle finger to corporate scum
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-06-22 04:54 [#00751328]
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"filesharing = artists starving! " What a load of crap, artists will still make music because they love to make music.
it's like painters, they can't live of selling their paintings but still continue to paint.
Btw i think it will only get better with those boy/girl bands and other lame "artists" will dissapear because of the lack of income.
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 05:18 [#00751333]
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stop replying to my posts, please
but to keep the shit going:
YOU STEAL THE ARTISTS MUSIC, AND YOU SHOULD PAY FOR THAT. IF THEY WANTED YOU TO TAKE THEIR MUSIC FOR FREE, THEYD JUST PLAY IT ON THE TELEVISION WOULDNT THEY
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 05:25 [#00751334]
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im sure tv networks are waiting in line to play idm music
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-22 05:40 [#00751337]
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um, yeah dude, but they do play it on the tellie now don't they?
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 05:42 [#00751338]
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THEN SEND THEM YOUR MONEY BECAUSE THEY WATN YOURST MONRYY!!!!!11
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-22 05:47 [#00751339]
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no, you just claimed that if they wanted us to take it for free they would play it on the TV, and they do that, so I take it they must want us to have it for free then.
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nacmat
on 2003-06-22 05:52 [#00751340]
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I buy cds... cos I am a collector
but I encourage people that if they want they shall get the music in mp3 in the net...
cheaper music now...or we will only share mp3
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Shatterproof
from xltronic messageboard on 2003-06-22 05:54 [#00751341]
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YOU ARE A MONSETRTTSS!!!1 PAY FOURE MUSIC NOW@!@!!!!!!
ahem. thread closer, where art thou
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-06-22 06:10 [#00751351]
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annoying shit
smojphace that is
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-22 06:19 [#00751355]
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*laughs at all the big corporate companies that lose tons of $ because people who listen to their made up "pop-shit" artists have no problem with stealing.*
id like to have a study/statistic on this: which groups/artists make loss in mp3 filesharing? 1. the big companies and boy/girlgroups 2. the lesser known artists
id say 1. because most people in here care about the musicians that are lesser known.
also i think that mp3 the way we use it is like underground radio and many artists are recommended and made known, that nobody of us would have an idea they exist at all.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-22 06:26 [#00751358]
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but i see what the danger is... i dont buy as much as i might do if i hadnt mp3, but i would buy more shit and less of the unkown artists.
SOLUTION: mp3s that destroy themselves after 20 listens. its not safe, but would you bother dling it again when you already know you want to have it on vinyl or cd?
i wish it would be like that sometimes, cause i got to admit that im not spending enough money on music like i would do.
then again im jobless and dont pay my internet myself. and im very sad i dont find radio stations that i really like.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-06-22 08:16 [#00751419]
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why not work for free then...i mean some artists might as well just make music and give it straight to us lot for free and thank us for being so cool.....in fact downloading is boring me now...i just get i t all sent to me in the mail for free, usualy with a letter from the artist thanking me for liking his music! sometimes IF the tune is good enough, i ll send some food.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-06-22 08:21 [#00751423]
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a lot of small labels would be able to release more stuff if they had sold as much as people have downloaded....
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-06-22 08:30 [#00751428]
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you assume that the market for cds is as large as the transfer volume of p2p networks. that's wrong cause people download for very small reasons, just like i sometimes queue a album or two only cause i read that name somewhere. i'd never buy a album or two for such reasons.
so a downloaded album is in general not a loss for a record company because the thing that gets lost never was there. what they get is free advertisment for the artists.
i found out about idm via p2p and bought a lot of cds. warp would sell half of their records without the help of soulseek.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-06-22 08:41 [#00751438]
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no im not assuming that at all.....i understand that not even half the people who download would have been potential buyers anaway....
but i dont know about you......but its just more and more common around me that people dont care about buying the records anymore...and especialy electro stuff (not counting deejays)....i have so many mates who couldnt care less about going to the shop coz they have all that they want for free...some people keep their computers on all night just to keep endlessly downloading music!!
i mean the big records company can all die as far as im concerned....im just worried about the FACT that it also hurts smaller people.....
i mean i admit sometimes i will download something out of impatience.... like maybe once a month to check some stuff out...but i mean some folks are really hardcore with the process....
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-22 10:14 [#00751555]
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it definately does too far with a few.
i think we now have put all aspects together havent we?
so no one needs to castrated.
btw when i was a kid i stole cds from shops :P
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-22 10:15 [#00751558]
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well some of hobbes friends might go less to mcds and buy some music instead.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-22 10:24 [#00751576]
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I can't say I know anybody at all who downloads music for free as a substitute to buying it. Those who do download generally download things they would probably never buy.
As for myself, I either download stuff that's completely legit, or whch I can't get by legit means.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-22 10:48 [#00751626]
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CURRENT POLL SAYS IT ALL :)
pretty realistic
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-22 12:42 [#00751884]
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instrumentally the remix of the bug sounds exactly like squarepusher
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