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offline Q4Z2X on 2003-06-12 23:17 [#00738773]
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i think nigel was saying your idea has been done before..
but that doesn't mean that it won't be fun and interesting..


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-12 23:25 [#00738777]
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well, im not looking to re-invent the wheel here. just
making my contribution to the music world. it's an idea that
stuck, and has been nagging at me to do. so, i listen to
that voice.

btw: i would like to personally invite mr. ochre to
participate in this project, if it interests him. i have
been listening to alot of his stuff lately, and find it a
refreshing presence in the "idm" community. i don't think i
have heard a track by him yet i haven't thought was
top-notch. so i am just putting that out there. if he is
busy, not interested, etc. i will understand.


 

offline nactron from philadelphia (United States) on 2003-06-13 00:24 [#00738809]
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i'll do it. i'll give u a trakk asap. 2-4 days. i'll send u
some sample traxx. im pretty electro, but everyone needs
some of that. get back to me with any rules or regulations u
might have.

nactronvii@hotmail.com


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-13 00:31 [#00738815]
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i appreciate the enthusiasm, but read the first post. its
not that simple. i have already laid out alot of the
guidelines, although no official "rules" have been stated.
if you'd like to participate, fill out the form on page one
and email it to me. ill keep everyone posted.


 

offline sine707 from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2003-06-13 06:42 [#00739192]
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ok, we discussed it...
it's a cool thing, let's do this! :)

it'll be a part of the official xltronic vibes series :)

i just have a little critisism for the topic title, since it
was not official at that time, but now it is, so that's ok!
:)
but think about it in future


 

offline alnuit on 2003-06-13 07:32 [#00739219]
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Okay...just a small technical note on loss of quality.

The average phone line bandwidth (frequency spectrum) is
from about 300Hz to about 3.3KHz. What this means is that at
the best of conditions a signal fed at the transmitting end
(stop here is you are scared of technical details) will
appear to be band pass filtered at the other end.

So a nice 808 reverse kick sub-bass will be ruined and
appear to be a wind blowing at the other end. A vast amount
of post filtering at the other end will replace the quality
of the signal. The way to do this to do this is to implement
a phone line equalizer...a very expensive and noisy
proposition...noisy in that, it would be very very lossy and
making a active equaliser is quite out of the question for
the bandwidth in consideration.

So in short, what you end up with is a situation like on
Gesscom's Minidisc record, where the samples are gonna be
quite shitty and you are gonna have to make the compositions
work with that.

Sampling at 28 or 192...or even sending the wave file will
not be useful. And signal sent over a telephone line will
get bandpass filtered to the frequencies between 300 and
3300 Hz. For those that plan to use this information in
their music...the Q factor is quite low..about 0.3. This
means that the center frequency of the telephone line as a
filter is about 900Hz.So there you have it.

Filter constants:
Resonant frequency = 900Hz
Badwidth = 3000Hz
Q = 0.3
Lower cut off frequency = 300Hz
Upper cut off frequency = 3300Hz



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-13 07:39 [#00739223]
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eh

we arent really gonna use the telephone...

me thinks



 

offline alnuit on 2003-06-13 07:44 [#00739228]
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well, if it gonna be actual samples zipped up and sent
across the net, there should be little or no degradation in
sound quality.

*feels like an idiot*


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-13 22:33 [#00740006]
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hahahahahahahahah yeah dude, we are using the telephone at
all. hahahahahah what?!?!? no no no. wow, that would be a
crappy project alright! ok, yeah... that's what i thought. i
didnt figure there should be any degrading of information.
wow. hehehehe dont feel dumb, dude. it was a mistake someone
was bound to make.

well, we still dont have an official subtitle for this, so
any suggestions are welcome.
something like: "xltronic vibes 6: blah blah blah"

sine: yeah, i told phob i was sorry about that if it
bothered him. like i said, i started the topic with the
intent of seeing who would actually participate, and felt if
i didnt make it WOW enough that no one wouldve responded.
sorry again, i didnt mean to be deceptive or anything.

wow! so this is actually gonna be xlt vibes 6!!!! cool
beans! im excited!

one last piece of business.
i think that even though i am organizing this, maybe someone
else should do the first track. i just think i might feel
more comfortable doing mine that way. so, if anyone WANTS to
be the one to start, let me know.

i still have to make up the "official guidelines" (i wont
call them rules) for this thing, before we can really get
started (so everyone knows whats going on). i will also be
making a member order chart that will be posted here. expect
that information shortly.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-13 22:34 [#00740007]
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correction: aren't using the phone at all. sheesh.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-13 23:28 [#00740032]
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well what happened was this "mystery artist" gave out
samples of one track and some one remixed, they passed it on
and the next person remixed that, etc untill it got back to
the original mystery artist (who turned out to be stereo
lab) and they did a the last track

i think mike p. was on it but i don't know which name he
used


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-13 23:29 [#00740033]
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in his current avatar, sine reminds me of my cousin david


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-13 23:48 [#00740038]
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he reminds me of balthazar ghetty from lost highway (he was
also ralph in lord of the flies).

like i said, thats cool. im not trying to re-invent the
wheel. i just think it would be a good idea to try myself,
and with these people. bring some unity back to the board.
you know, the whole giving back to the community thing.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-06-13 23:49 [#00740039]
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how about xltronic vibes 6: transmutation?


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-06-13 23:49 [#00740041]
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or xltronic vibes 6: metamorphosis


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-13 23:51 [#00740043]
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or xltronic vibes 6: check out this thing we did


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-06-13 23:53 [#00740044]
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or that.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-06-13 23:54 [#00740045]
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or xltronic vibes 6: this is some cool shit


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 00:00 [#00740053]
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i was thinking more a short phrase. i dont think one word
can sum it up well. but maybe a three word phrase could.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 00:02 [#00740054]
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hahahahahahah

or this:
xltronic vibes the 6th: tibbar strikes manhattan


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 00:02 [#00740055]
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xltronic vibes 6: we be jammin'


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-14 01:11 [#00740108]
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Cool it's the real deal sweet!


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-06-14 01:19 [#00740117]
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just like heaven.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-14 01:20 [#00740119]
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Shit i don't think i'm gonna be able to do it.



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 01:26 [#00740121]
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why's that?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-14 01:30 [#00740126]
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ay count me in incase you hadnt already :)



 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-14 01:34 [#00740129]
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I've already got a couple of remixes i have to do and i have
to find a job as well, It sucks i just want to make music
dammit!!!

I really want to do this as well.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 01:34 [#00740130]
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yo, johnny! fill out the form on page one.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 01:35 [#00740131]
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well, skink: ill keep your name on the temp list for now. if
you can or cant for sure, let me know.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-14 01:40 [#00740139]
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Sweet man! Thankyou.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 01:47 [#00740151]
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johnny: please fill out a form and send it to me.


 

offline Nate Tarrant from N8 Land (United States) on 2003-06-14 02:01 [#00740153]
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we should call it
XLTRONIC VIBES V.6: Autechre Remix Contest


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 02:03 [#00740156]
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hahahahahahahahaha

or "xltronic vibes 6: this isn't your grandma's xltronic
vibes 6"


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 02:08 [#00740163]
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johnny: i'll repeat myself... i need for you to send this
form to me if you're in. if you don't send it to me, i don't
know where to put you (based on your cpu's capabilities) on
the list.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-14 03:06 [#00740192]
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tibbar whats your phone no.?


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 03:16 [#00740202]
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um, why? whats on your mind?


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 03:20 [#00740207]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???????


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 03:25 [#00740214]
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yooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
JAroeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-14 03:28 [#00740215]
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.... i wanted some exclusive samples... thats all :)


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 03:33 [#00740219]
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hahahahahahaha that's cool. you're going first anyway. i
figure since you've got this vacation coming up, i'll let
you start it off. does that sound good to you? you can get
to work right away, as soon as i post the "official rules",
so everyone understands.

if you want to take the telephone thing there, go ahead and
call me up. i don't mind being used as a sample.

1 (717) 657-5763

call me up now, while i have the phone nearby, so you don't
wake anyone else.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-06-14 03:36 [#00740228]
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eh... sorry.. ive gotta go now.. something important ..
maybe ill get a nice job!

anyway, im cool with that... talk to ya later


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-14 07:19 [#00740259]
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weord



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 12:19 [#00740433]
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ok. i'm sorry to say it, but until someone pulls out (which
someone undoubtedly will) it looks like i'm gonna have to
close this off. when this happens, i have a few people in
mind who didnt submit forms ill be asking to join in.
anyway, i'll be posting the guidelines and participant order
as soon as phob gives me the final okey-dokey. he helped me
figure out how to make this more efficient, and dare i say,
a better idea all together. you'll see when i post that
stuff then... it's gonna be rad. plus, in the next day or
so, i'll be posting a sneak preview of the artwork, which is
almost done already (minus tracklisting and times). anyway,
sorry to those of you who didn't get in the door right
away... like i said, innevetably someone will drop out. when
they do, i'll be knocking on some doors. peace out.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-06-14 21:39 [#00740924]
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it's too bad.... i was interested. ah well. :-)


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-14 23:46 [#00740959]
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like i said man, there's still a chance if people drop out,
which a few usually always do. i just have to see what's
gonna happen with the number i've already got.

anyway, guidelines and participant order will be posted
sometime this morning.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-15 04:54 [#00741096]
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XLTRONIC VIBES No.6 OFFICIAL RULES & MEMBER ORDER:

ok, here's the basic jist of things...
first person creates a track. when done, it will be either
posted on a site or sent via email to
me. he will also create a zip file of a sample pack. ONLY
once i have recieved the track and
ok'ed it, will the sample pack will be sent to the next
member, who will create his track around
these sounds and loops. i want to make this clear: a new
sample pack must be made by each member
at completion of their track. we are NOT passing the same
pack around. this process should allow
greater change to occur from piece to piece. also: those of
you who are neither able to transfer
large files via email, and ALSO do not have a page to host
your tracks on (this only applies 3 of
you), you will need to get one for this. go to zebox.com and
set up an acount. it's quick, free,
and painless. if you don't do this, i can't see how you plan
on participating in this project.
participant will have approximately 2 - 2 1/2 weeks to
complete his/her track. if you need more
time, i will give it to you, but i need to know you are
actually working on it. don't wait until
day 12 to start working, then ask for more time. if you jerk
me around, i'll skip you. i don't
think these rules are unreasonable. if we all put our best
effort into this, it should turn out
wonderfully. the track order of the finished mix will
obviously be the order they were made in.
i will be making a cover for this once it is done. maybe
another member (teapot?) will be a pal
and put it up for me. if there are any questions at all,
feel free to IM me (tibbar5179) or email
me (tibbar@comcast.net). below you will find the list of
member order so far. new people will be
added to the end of this list. remember, i will be
over-seeing the entire process, so keep me
well-informed of any changes, problems, etc. that may need
my attention. as curious as you might
get, please make sure you have your blinders on here. the
only thing you should be h


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-15 04:56 [#00741098]
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(continued) the only thing you should be hearing is the
track right before yours. i believe isolation of yourself
from the others work will enhance the
results. i ask this out of respect for the project. we're
going to split everything off into 2
groups. Jaroen is first. his track and zip pack will be
given to both r40f and evolume. they will
continue to work down through their respective groups until
we end up with both ochre and
glasse's tracks given to me. i will then create my track
from BOTH of their sample packs. i hope
none of you are confused. if so, just use the chart below
for reference. JAroen is first.
JAroen, you may commence work on your track anytime you're
ready. have fun!!!

participant order:
---------------------
1) JAroen

2) r40f (works from JAroen)
3) xceque (works from r40f)
4) Q4Z2X (works from xceque)
5) ambsace (works from Q4Z2X)
6) sanguine (works from ambsace)
7) skink (works from sanguine)
8) qrter (works from skink
9) glasse (works from qrter)

2) evolume (works from JAroen)
3) teapot (works from evolume)
4) tallyho (works from teapot)
5) sadist (works from tallyho)
6) nate tarrant (works from sadist)
7) humbleice (works from nate tarrant)
8) korben dallas (works from humbleice)
9) ochre (works from korben dallas)

10) tibbar (works from korben dallas and glasse)

therefore, the track listing should look like this:
------------------------------------------------------
1) glasse (a brief history of glass)
2) qrter
3) skink
4) sanguine
5) ambsace
6) Q4Z2X
7) xceque
8) r40f (sick to the back teeth)
9) JAroen
10) evolume
11) teapot (xanpha)
12) tallyho
13) sadist (jecky hellfish)
14) nate tarrant (locus)
15) humbleice (one lonely guy)
16) korben dallas (mepq)
17) ochre
18) tibbar (when played on repeat, this should flow right
back into glasse's track)



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-15 04:59 [#00741103]
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to clarify, this was written before we stopped taking
submissions.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-15 05:01 [#00741105]
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and in the list, mine is composed from ochre and glasse's,
not korben and glasse's

sheesh.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-15 05:09 [#00741118]
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<- raises eyebrows



 


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