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Amen to that, sir... |
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_awt_: - i agree, the exploding psychology is fucking genius and definitely the best track he's ever made, or should i say one of. when it comes in with that bird shouting..... blows me away every time |
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lol bird shouting ? well its genius.. The melody in the end awsome ! Im so fucking happy hes coming to roskilde !!! it will be the fatest thing to ever experience live ! but im afraid ill damage my ears at the BEEP part in grenways trajektorys.. earplugs hmm naa |
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im here now it must be, what.. SP 15 VS 4 now its SP 16 VS 4 The Pusher is a fucking genious. I loved what Vsnare did at ATP.. it seriously blew me away... but I fucking do the same thing at home all the time... play crazy beats for short periods over each other (i got no opera singer though!) whereas Tom fucking has a bloody musical direction. He fucking takes you somehwere i the future and across dimensions in the world he has created.VSnare doesn´t make me cry. |
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I agree too! :-) |
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Can you post a (minutely) detailed report on the gig here? I'd be soooo grateful... ;-) |
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:) hehe people take this pretty serious i think the point has been made that SP is musically way better, i fully agree on that, but i just look at what i like to listen to, i made some idm compilations with both SP and VS (amongst others of course) on them and i notice that i always skip 'DYKSP' 'beep street' etc. and rather listen to 'in quod' or 'dolleater' or something.. the SP tracks bore me more quickly and are too predictable :) oh yes: --> IMHO <-- |
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May I suggest you listen again to Tundra The Exploding Psychology Beep Street My Sound Friend Track Psultan (Remix) Iambic 5 Poetry |
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i'll do that :) |
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morton.. what about the live SP stuff? Jaopan, frigids, breezeblock? the tweaking is great. respect to your VS choice though - its all good! mini ATP report Looks like he just played stuff from CD´s (mp3.s) and teaked em with FX controls, along with this honey singing opera/punk style over the tracks.... with a big red face i have to admit i didn´t recogmise shit but the insanity of it all was just my cuppa nd RDJ was dancing all night in front of me to it! SP live is better though! |
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Did he look happy? (Tom, that is) |
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its the vsnares gig i described there! you want the live in dublin gig? a 20 minute wait, holdup, delay or whatever... to droney, sounscape music... like the most annoying yet exhilerating buildup you ever heard. then the master comes on, looks at the crowd with his "fuck you, you fucking e kids... i hope the pills wore off in the last 20 mnutes cos Squarepushers gonna tear you fucking face off".. face and proceeds to assault us with GP tunes timestrecthed to fuck a la Japan for 60 minutes finally giving in to the crowd when we all start roaring at athe end "Come to Daddy Come to Daddy" and he conceeds with "Common my Selector". its hard to believ the stubborn bastard gave in to us! But he owed it to us after that toe curling intro - all part of the plan really! |
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i haven't heard much SP live stuff, i'll check that out too :) |
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Soz, my mistake...ta for the report though...was he looking miserable the whole time like when I saw him? |
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hmm well Im not saying that vsnares suck.. Dont get me wrong hes great. And ive listened to them both allot ! I had a period a couple of month ago wen i listened to Winter In the belly of a snake every time every single day.. and the same day as I got Winter my grandmother died... So i combined winter with my mood.. And found out that In quod is great just like cashew and sinksnow angel... And ive listened a lot to his older stuff to as Dismanting five years and fluff master.. He has many great tracks but sp still has bether quality and skill... |
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god - squarepusher no question - he' can actually do music rather than just aggressive and fairlly biring noise . |
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merg - was who looking miserable? VSnare at ATP - a bit frowny, smoking a fag, into it but no body movement Tom in Dublin - a bit cheeky looking, quite physical, concentrated but defo had a lot of presence. He walked off very quickly in a spoilt kid kinda way! I heard he got into a fight with the promoters faterwards and .. he didn´t show at his next gig at Sonar 4 days later. Cunt! But i love him! |
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Sorry, Tom was (Big Chill 99) don't s'pose you were there too by any chance? :-) |
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no sp is just noise :< and on some albums theres short non-drumnbass tracks...what was he thinking? hes no boc... |
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Why does no one ever mention "Fly Street" of BM? Awesome track that. I've not seen SP live but i did see VS in Camden last year. Frankly, it was absolutely bonkers, verging on insanity. Proper deathcore shit - i actually asked myself, "What on earth are you doing here, you idiot?" |
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Tommib off Go Plastic is great... |
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Bet you didn't actually use the word "idiot" :-) |
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lol Fly street = Cool ever listened to it with headphones with really high volume and bass ? thats awsome ! quality Shit Man ! and dont forget Song Our Underwater Torch ! = Beutiful ! |
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Indirectly.......I had thoughts of my whole family being there, Grandparents and all, and what they would have said....... they would have said, "You idiot." |
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no they dont go with the other tracks at all plus hes not good at doing them....grumble grumble... |
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hhmmm..... depends on my mood ATM I'd say the pusher |
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I love the bit in Fly Street with the tape rewind and then back in! Ooooh Yeah....The Macho Man Raaaandy Savage : ) Venetian Snares live could induce cardiac arrest or a stroke in elder folk i reckon, aside from the obvious head and ear ache and a nose bleed. |
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definitly Squarepusher! |
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Well I reckon it's a blissful )and well-earned) interlude, hell I admit it, sometimes I just listen to that and nothing else when I need calming down! :-) |
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s q u a r e p u s h e r |
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case closed :-) new poll to be posted shortly I feel! :-) |
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I like Venetian Pusher the best! :D |
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great joke (...) |
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is that avatar from 'the shining' ? the "heeeere's johnny" part ? |
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squarepusher |
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well at least vsnares doesn't stick to 'boring' 4/4 tracks :) |
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snares is pretty shite from what i've seen/heard. seems the 'pusher thinks a bit more. |
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I haven't really heard enough of either to make a proper choice, but I'll say Squarepusher. Venetian Snares is more fun though :) |
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The pusher for sure. Whats the count now? |
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Poor old Mr Snares, he must be feeling really down by reading this. Still he is pretty good otherwise there wouldn't be all the interest there is in him. |
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For Drill'n'Bass SP For Glitchy Stuff VS but over all... SP by a fine margin |
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VSNARES |
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If you "...didn't recognize shit" when experiencing the VSNARES' ATP set, then you aren't a good source of opinion on this artist with regard to his skills as a composer. If you can't even recognize his pieces when you hear them, then you are too ignorant of his music to have an informed, reliable opinion about his musicality. |
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i suppose i'll just irritate everyone by saying i don't particularly like either of there styles... and that it's all in the eye of the beholder, and terms like 'better' or 'worse' only downplay the creative process which is the real beautiful thing... but having heard less than 20 tracks by either i'd have to say sp |
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☻< bores me more quickly, although he is truly a great composer. Vsnares on the other hand....wwhhheeew i can`t get enough of his madness, i loove his muzac more than anything right now. so final result: ☻< 25 Vsnares 26 |
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pusher forsure snares is good, but tom can blow all his shit away, for real. |
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I dont know what the score is but Id say Venetian Snares, sp's old albums dont interest me at all(except miron). Go plastic is incredible though, if he releases more albums like that itll be a tough call. (part of music is rotted... is very good too btw) but I prefer vsnares overall. |
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If you "...didn't recognize shit" when experiencing the VSNARES' ATP set, then you aren't a good source of opinion on this artist with regard to his skills as a composer. bollox, i was there and he's poo |
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Venetian Snares. |
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Wait no I change my vote...Squarepusher. Sorry. |
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