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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 15:53 [#00676885]
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mylittlesister,
I see that you're 18. Give it time your view will change.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 15:56 [#00676891]
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so if qualifications mean nothing then is there anything wrong with what corrupted-girl said here?:
"Education, carrers all that is just a form of government control on society."
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-04-29 16:00 [#00676901]
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asche: (to your initial post)
what's the rush?
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Asche XL
on 2003-04-29 16:02 [#00676903]
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A point I had was just so you guys don't assume I'm trying to drill kids with work is that I do believe children should play and are pressured into stuff, I'm just saying that imagine if you could or realized u could study the stuff you want to study now back when you were a kid? Like I said before, not even necessarily with school, like practicing skating or gymnastics. Just imagine if you could start studying/practicing the stuff you love now when you were a little kid. Interesting concept.
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Asche XL
on 2003-04-29 16:07 [#00676907]
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I'm just now realizing that you shouldn't waste your youth. So I want to make the best out of physical activities etc...while I can still do it. I know i'm still young, but I was talking with my friend and we're like remember when we were little and we always did stuff like played basketball and skated and stuff, and now we basically just sit around like lazyasses on the computer and shit. So before my youth goes to waste I want to start making the best out of my ability. I just bought a trampoline recently, heh, always wanted one of those.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:07 [#00676908]
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Er sweet. I think you're missing the point. Thats just going a bit too far. Education is a rights of passage if you will. You know what I mean, you learn the basics of the English language, maths, geography, history etc etc? It gives you the basics if you will? Don't know what you're talking about with this Government control of society stuff. Kids are just there to learn maths, english and a few other basic things to start them off in life. Don't take it so seriously. All I'm suggesting, is that you can be poor at school and still get somewhere in life. You're young take this advice literally and you'll be free of any societal constraints. Get a 9-5 job for life, don't get one, do something entirely different, whatever. There are plenty and plenty of options and ways one can live ones life in the 20th century. Don't get bogged down in views by people who essentially have gone no where in their lives, they're poor examples. :-)
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:08 [#00676910]
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See, I'd love if I knew a lot more school knowledge when I was younger, then I could be doing better now and eventually end up with a better well paying carrer. Maybe be the marine-biologist I've always wanted to me. I really don't see that happening... maybe they'd be a better chance of it if I was more highly educated at a younger age, maybe i'd have more "drive".
But then, I think childhood is soo important... on you're whole life. It has a huge impact on your life and who you are.
But yet again I didn't have the best childhood so I do kinda wish I was one of those child genesis and would now be a marine-biologist. Man.. would I love that.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:10 [#00676913]
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Last post addressed to mylittlesister not Asche XL.
Oh Asche XL, nothing like living now. The past is the past, we all wish we done this or that, doesn't change the present.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:10 [#00676915]
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What other options are there besides 9-5 jobs that will allow you to be well off? And how many 9-5 jobs are there that aren't working at Mc Donalds drive-thru that pay well and require a high school diploma or more?
I mean, if you wanna be well-off and financially secure you most likely will need a high school and probably more.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:12 [#00676916]
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corrupted-girl,
On the contrary the fact that you may feel uneducated say in comparison to your peers is excellent. That'll give you plenty of drive to say 'fuck you, I'll show you how its done'.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-04-29 16:14 [#00676918]
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asche:
oh so you can't play basketball or skate now? ;)
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:14 [#00676920]
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what? I never said I feel less educated then my peers. what are you talking about?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-04-29 16:18 [#00676928]
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don't mean to be getting all etymological on yo ass, but how do define "waste". and how is this "waste" a bad thing?
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:21 [#00676933]
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We're all slaves to money. That's what it comes down to. Education. carrers... slaves.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:22 [#00676937]
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corrupted-girl,
Well I'm not gonna tell you how to run your life. But maybe you'll figure out an appropriate formula sooner or later.
Put it this way someone who is relying on a 9-5 job scenario, is not someone who is planning on going somewhere in life. You're already entering life with too much fear. The question you ought to be asking yourself is 'what do I want to do (or more importantly what do I want to do which I can enjoy but also I can enjoy even more because I'm making loads of money at it) and how do I go about achieving it'. Thats a good place to start. You see life has plenty of obstacles and part of the challenge is moving around them.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:23 [#00676942]
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Yes, I know that. But I don't have the money nor the drive to spend 7 extra years of schooling in university to reach my wants in life. Carrer wise.
I wish I did...
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Asche XL
on 2003-04-29 16:24 [#00676946]
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Hey!! heh, nah I can.....sorta =p
I guess each person has their own version of "waste" but my version of wasting is sitting inside on a nice day. Not living up to your physical potential, etc.... This discussion is getting way more complex than I would have imagined. Which is a good thing I suppose. =)
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:26 [#00676950]
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Who says you have to? You don't understand, you're putting up to many boundaries to life.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:27 [#00676954]
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its the institutions who have put up the boundaries. With them looking at qualifications and all...
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:28 [#00676956]
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its the institutions who have put up the boundaries. With them looking at qualifications and all...
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:28 [#00676957]
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What do you mean?
I'd be happy having a proffesion like a marine-bio or a doctor or something high above that pays very well. You know how many years it takes to be that?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:30 [#00676963]
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this is true...
try being a doctor without a suitable degree!
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:32 [#00676966]
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mylittlesister,
Trust me its in your mind. You'll get more insight as to what I'm saying when you move into the work world or whatever. You have to appreciate that life is extremely amorphous, there is no set path and the only boundaries we put up are the ones we invent ourselves. Don't listen to friggen' teachers about what you can and can't do. Shit they're the worst people to take advice from, their world is the school, what the fuck would they know about the real world. You can do as you please and be what you want, thats the only mantra you need.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:32 [#00676967]
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haha that'd be funny.
I gotta find something that only takes 2 years of college and then be middle class. 9-5 baby...
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:34 [#00676971]
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What about the fact that being a doctor takes many years of education? Is there a way to just skip em and still get a PhD.. huh huh
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:34 [#00676974]
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Don't be a Doctor then. I don't know its your lives. I'm just opening your minds up a little to other ways of seeing things.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:34 [#00676976]
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teachers at my school say anything is possible
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:36 [#00676979]
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Fine I guess you've got the answer then. :-)
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:36 [#00676980]
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good. cause it's true.. unless it's not.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-04-29 16:37 [#00676984]
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Asche:
you could always move to england, i hear the weather there is pretty shit all year round. ;)
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:38 [#00676988]
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I actually want to be a mailman. Or mailwoman.. whatever.
Do you guys know the qualifications and how to become a mailman?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:38 [#00676989]
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Sure its true. Now I'm beginning to like you guys, you're becoming more opening minded than I thought. ;-)
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-29 16:40 [#00676993]
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i'm also a high school senior and i feel my learning process as of now is stunted to some degree, as far as the education provided at school.
some classes provide more education than others.
there's only about 22 days left until i graduate. i am much looking forward to the potential educational services provided at college/uni.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:41 [#00676996]
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Im pretty open minded and I do think if you work hard at what you want you're most likely gonna get it.
Im just bitter and hate standards of society... I don't wnat to be a slave in an office cubicle.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 16:43 [#00677001]
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corrupted-girl,
Well thats your choice ain't it.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 16:45 [#00677003]
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Well, hopefully.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:46 [#00677006]
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I'm still sceptical at (the American Dream of) "work hard and you will acheive", because there are so many discriminations. Equal opportunities still need to be ensured.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-29 16:48 [#00677007]
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this thing about school not being as important as people believe, is what i was trying to get at earlier, when i said "my personal meaning of life is 'to get good qualifications and get a good job'". because i dont think that that is how it should be.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-29 16:51 [#00677011]
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true. those who work very hard don't always get what they deserve.
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flim nanou
from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-04-29 17:17 [#00677079]
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"I know a lot of people who fuck up in high school, or even
in first year university, because they simply felt pressured
into going straight into school and learning more without really even feeling confident or knowing much about themselves." my friends I just want to say one thing: DON'T go to university or college or whatever, unless YOU want to. don't dive back into school just because your parents or your society or your peer group or whatever tells you it's not optional, it's required... because all you're going to get out of the educational system (and this goes for any educational system anywhere) is equal to what YOU put into it. and if you're not willing to make the effort (like me) or you don't think it's worth it, then you should not waste your time and money (like I did). there's a lot of other good and helpful and lovely stuff in this world besides school, is all
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flim nanou
from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-04-29 17:41 [#00677118]
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whoa... that was the longest post I've ever done yikes
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-29 18:13 [#00677161]
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like what?
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flim nanou
from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-04-30 03:06 [#00677713]
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like people or music or playing music (even better) or learning how to be responsible or living on your own terms or finding your niche in the "real" world or love or drugs or whatever the fuck floats your boat
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