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           jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-24 01:58 [#00612794]
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Well, I can kind of see your point, but only in relation to  silly topics. Unecessary war topics should be deleted as  unecessary normal music ones.
 
  But if we are confined to using existing threads then people  new to a thread, or anyone who's not read it in the last  hour even, will have to trawl through hundreds of posts to  get an idea of what is being discussed. New topics with 100+  posts put me off. But then that might be the point. 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-24 02:02 [#00612801]
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Again, to re-iterate... this is not an attempt to hush up  the war. I accept people want to discuss it here. I asked  that it was kept to the existing threads, that's all!  
 
  
         
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           nacmat
             on 2003-03-24 02:42 [#00612827]
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I think I understand ceri
  some of us love football: do we start thousands of threads on this subject? no, we just post about it in one thread (this summer was in  the huge world cup results) 
 
  woofer, tolstoyed, and many others know that if they want to  know about the last football news they will see it in that  thread...
  nice football talks there
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-24 02:47 [#00612832]
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Yes, that hit the nail on the head exactly!
  Look at the world cup or Star wars threads- both running  into the 1000s of posts. If those had been spread 10  messages to a thread (like some of the war ones) that'd be  100 threads within a month (more on the star wars ones).
 
  Whilst a lot of people here are into star wars and want to  discuss it, they accept that not everyone wants to have to  search through scores of threads to find something un-star  wars related and as a result no one ever had a problem with  it. 
 
  
         
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           Red
             from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-24 05:33 [#00613010]
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ok point taken about the thread btw the way is a bit of mess  to decipher at this point as there are many prongs to the  war debate
 
  However I have never seen any topics banned on Sept 11 yet  Flea's ancestors hail from Afghanistan which was talked  about...bombed heavily and is occupied by the US/UK etc and  the civilians dehumanised. The remark made by Steve Martin  summed up American sentiment stating that Afghanistan had  put out a film about a camel - no more than a racial slur
 
  I see by banning Flea for his approach to the topic, I  warned him not to post those two Prowar and Antiwar topics  but he felt strongly that the existing thread was not titled  that so would get lost and hard to recover. I see this also  is being insensitive to him being the Middle Eastern  contributor to the board who has been exposed to the  experince of tanks monitoring political groups on campus at  Uni in Pakistan and I believe he has deep concern about what  is unfolding in Iraq and wishes to discuss his feelings on  the issues that are confronting us.
 
  Pantalaimon attacked him and then ran off like the coward he  is stating his view and then suggesting a ban, then  returning to post prowar opinions on the thread after  stating his wish to stop all war topics. If anything for his  shit stirring conduct which I encountered with his  slanderous remarks I think a ban should be imposed on him.
 
  So how about it then Ceri I think you should unban flea, he  is offended by your actions which I find totally unfair and  unbased    
 
  
         
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           nacmat
             on 2003-03-24 05:37 [#00613013]
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flea is banned???
  I know this is not a democracy, I know , but flea is a main  member of this MB... I cant believe he is banned
  this place is always better with him online
  just imo
  well I hope to see him here soon
 
  
         
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           Red
             from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-24 05:41 [#00613015]
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I am afraid so nacmat I believe under unfair circumstances 
 
  
         
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           danbrusca
             from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-24 05:43 [#00613017]
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We also want to avoid a situation such as exists on the  SuicideGirls.com boards, where you get flamed like crazy for  starting a new topic on something that's already been  discussed, no matter how long ago. 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-24 05:46 [#00613021]
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Firstly, he only has a temporary ban...
  I think that anyone who saw those two topics he mad would  agree that he was asking for it. I know Flea is of afghan  descent and I understand how strongly he feels about it, but  when I asked him specifically not to create new topics I saw  those two topics as being given the finger.
 
  As much as it pained me to ban it, it would of been unfair  not to after I had banned other people for going against  warnings. I can't make exceptions jsut because Flea is my  friend.
 
  Again, to emphasise ***My decision had nothing to do with  pantalaimon's request***.  
 
  
         
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           nacmat
             on 2003-03-24 05:58 [#00613034]
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it is very hard to be a mod
 
  
         
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           Jarworski
             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-24 06:00 [#00613036]
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Not when you're a born nazi like Ceri
  joke!!!
 
  
         
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           Jedi Chris
             on 2003-03-24 06:54 [#00613112]
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Decisions...decisions....decisions.....
  .....rather you be a moderator than me, I wouldn't want to  have done that....as a friend I hope Flea forgives you! 
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-24 08:22 [#00613255]
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I doubt Flea will hold a grudge, Ceri gave him plenty of  warning and made it all very clear. 
 
  It's a tough situation, but I like the soccer (ahem...  football) and Star Wars analogy. A new topic isn't needed  everytime a US plane drops a bomb on somebody  accidentally... that seemingly happens every hour.
 
  I stand behind Mr. PurplePants' decision. 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-24 08:24 [#00613259]
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           Red
             from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-24 08:32 [#00613284]
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*A new topic isn't needed  everytime a US plane drops a bomb on somebody  accidentally... that seemingly happens every hour. 
  I think that's a fair comment.
 
  
         
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           FLUX
             on 2003-03-25 12:11 [#00615513]
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What about threads on WARP? You cant spell WARP without WAR? And are Star Wars threads going to be banned as well?
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-25 12:17 [#00615521]
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so only 1 thread for autechre then? i f**king hope so
 
  
         
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           nacmat
             on 2003-03-25 12:25 [#00615534]
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who are you? how do you know about the starwars threads?
 
  
         
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           roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-03-25 12:28 [#00615539]
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BAH everytime i hear a plane go by i get nervous
  my kind of war
 
  
         
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           FLUX
             on 2003-03-25 12:29 [#00615541]
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I cant tell. I keep getting banned a lot.
 
  
         
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           jupitah
             from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-25 12:40 [#00615566]
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i don't understand the point of closing topics.  if a topic  gets multiple replies, obviously people feel a need to  discuss/argue topic and you should let it be.  don't read it  if you don't like.  at the end of the day this is a message  board for folks who have similar music tastes... it's  obviously not a strict music discussion board. 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-25 12:43 [#00615572]
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i think MOST people would agree with you, i do
 
  
         
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           surrounded
             from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-25 12:52 [#00615581]
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exactly
  i have always thought the same thing. With maybe an  exception for threads where people get flamed and/or really  badly insulted. 
 
  Banning people is one thing, but closing threads... 
 
  
         
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           Jedi Chris
             on 2003-03-25 13:07 [#00615609]
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I think he's on to us Nac!!
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