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replace on with and. take away t. apart from that, pretty good point i think. |
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Actually there was a strong co-operation between natives and immigrants after independance. Most of the massacring went on by the Colonialists I believe, pre-declaration of independance. And after the declaration they had a big civil war, partly over the liberation of slaves. I am talking about the original ideology of the United States, and the abuse of its citizens---I am not congratulating the Corporations or the Colonists. |
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yuck, i smell a debate brewin' i've learned to steer clear of those on here... marlowe, you are a voice of reason in a mostly sarcastic, cynical and brutal world... there must be more like you somewhere... :) |
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how do you feel about your country? are you pleased with your nationality? (do you feel somewhat patriotic or not?) It's a shithole Sorta... Never |
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thanks for the enlightenment, durst... |
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Your point being? |
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Of course, when asking a question it does make sense to actually address it to someone ;) |
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It's not Fred Durst you dweeb. |
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yeah, i care |
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my country is a nice place to live in I dont care what nacionality I am really I am from planet earth, I dont know where will I go in the future... patriotic? I like spain, but I dont care about it, I am spanish but I could have been any other thing... casualty |
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Its alright to right it down but if you blatantly ignore it in practice, its not worth the paper its written on. Quite literally! |
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Fuck it. ...it also helps to address it to the right person. |
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and dweeb is a good come-back |
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It was a case of "we've invaded a country, we've abused blacks to build our luxury homes, we've ghettoised the natives, now let's offer them an olive branch." The declaration of independence was an attempt to wallpaper over their actions. There was no honest intent on their part, as the next couple of hundred years have shown. And if they wanted anything changed, they just introduced an amendment to the declaration. |
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Yeah, that was one of points Jonesy--the potential and how it has been manipulated and abused to create the monster that is modern Corporate America. |
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I think you'll find the native Americans have been living on reservations for along time and still are. Do a Google search on Leonard Peltier. |
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Like I said, it was mainly the colonists and rich people who did the abusing. As I said, it's not them I'm defending. It's not even necessarily the people who signed the Declaration. The fact that the Constitution came about was the potential I talked of. |
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On which point would you like me to clarify my position? |
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I said that the only place I would live in Africa was South Africa, you said "Me too. They knew how to treat the blacks there." What was the point of your comment? |
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I was being ironic. I was highlighting the implicit racism of your comments. |
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I know they are the indiginous population--it was the Colonials and the Conquisadors who fucked them up most, and it's not the regular citizenry who are fucking them up now. |
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Thought so, you were assuming I was being racist. I have family in South Africa, that's why I would live there. |
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I know but we are talking in terms of the country. They espoused one thing and did another. Just as today. |
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You were rather disrespectful of Sudan, but praised a white dominated racist South Africa. |
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That's why it always remained potential. |
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danbrusca might be black. Would that make a difference? Would you applaud him for wanting to go back to his roots? Oh, I wish danbrusca was black. Tell me you're black danbrusca - that would teach him. |
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See, you have a habit of seeing things that aren't there. I didn't praise South Africa at all. I still think Sudan is a shithole and would actively go out of my away to avoid having to live there. The same could be said of many *white* dominated countries too. |
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Refund from Richmond, Sydney. (Australia) on 2003-02-18 14:20 [#00559609] Points: 1793 Status: Addict I like Australia, but I'd prefer to be living in japan, I hate how basic everything is around here, the nearest decent computer store is 45 minutes drive... > sometimes i would like to live in Japan too... but on the other hand the work and stress must be so hard in there... blash from Verbier (Switzerland) on 2003-02-18 14:37 [#00559650] Points: 5 Status: Regular I'm french, and I hate my country. I left it 6 years ago - I'm ashamed to be french, and I will get married with my girlfriend to change citizenship. > is it because of the government (last law being you can't criticize or parody the national flag and hymn... it's such a fucking shame)? the population in general (who made the awful result in the last election happen)? if it's so i would agree... the general mentality in the country (clichés are probably all based on realities, so yes)? or/and something else? (sorry for using too much parenthesis (parenthesises?)...) |
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so, i tell you a small short story. my parents are both polish. they imigrated to germany in the 80ies. i was born in germany. lived there for 13 years. started to love it. lived near munich but in a small village. then we decided to move back to poland, to our "home country". i never wanted anything else. no i live in poland for 4 years. and i fuckin hate this "home country". was robbed 4 times, 2 cars stolen, home was broken and robbed. this country is kickin my ass... |
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i'd rather be back in Brazil, and Brazil has some fucked up things. i'm in America now though.. |
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There's a difference between saying somewhere is underdeveloped (i.e. raped by the West) and a shithole. Show some respect. |
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sudan is a big country with lots of oil and chances to develop but the oil corporations are having a tight grip on the country, assuring their civil war continues and all the oil money is only for war funding. also, sudan is one of the countries that are in danger of go all desert when erosion caused by bad farming habits and wood cutting eats up all the fertile lands.. rantityrants. lets go grap a morally approvable beer jonesy. |
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I love italy,which is were I'm from. I live in the us now...which says a lot |
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what part of italy are you from? |
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I don't feel at home in my country (UK) but then again I don't feel at home in my other country (France) so I'm kinda fucked.... |
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See you at the bar. |
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The SNP are a bunch of arses. If Scotland had independence, tax rates would be hugeand I personally dont think it would be worth it. Arseholes, the lot of 'em. And I quote Mark Renton from Trainspotting: "ITS SHITE BEING SCOTTISH." I should know. :) |
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I dont live in my own country..well where I am from I dont really have a country to call my own..I am from that grey area between Pakistan and Afghanistan called the tribal areas with family on both sides of the border..I love my region..I love my people..I miss it like hell..but patriotism or nationalism doesnt come into my equation.. |
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Fernz I agree with you...The SNP are twats. I wish I could afford to move back to Bonnie Scotland,I miss the scenery.Its a shame about all the drug and work problems there though..... |
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How very politically correct, |
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No, not PC just fuckin decent. |
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my country is full of dumb violent drunkards, it is hard to find anything interesting ANYWHERE accept for the capital cities, and you get stereotyped as either an outback brute or a air headed surfie, neither of which I am, Decent people seem to live miles away, and the girls here are so easy going that it's impossible to have a MEANINGFUL relationship with them. so yeah, australia sucks |
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easy going girls? whats wrong with that? :) |
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And the heroin problem aint easing up either... ;( |
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