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i don't think radiohead set out to impress anyone with their skills at electronic music. the synths, drum machines, and software serve in constructing and supporting the songs. they didn't use electronics so they could be (very unfairly) compared to groups like autechre. they used more electronics than previous albums (and there've been electronic instruments on all albums) because that's what served the songs and the mood they were going after. |
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I know... I never accused them of being ripoffs or derivative, I just don't like their electronic flavored tracks. They're distinctly Radiohead, and Thom's voice plays a pretty big part in those tracks (backwards or cut up or what have you) so you know it's Radiohead right away, but I'm just not into them. Like when Metallica does a country song... I'm just not into it. There's no songs on The Bends or OK Computer that I skip, but Amnesiac has a handful... Kid A has one or two. |
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And I know they're not setting out to make an electronic track, that's just what it turns out as... but it doesn't really matter what they're TRYING to do, how I hear it matters, and if I like it. |
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i'm not saying they ripped anyone off. they aren't IDM albums, i didn't attempt to say they were, i'm just explaining why i don't like them as much as i used to, and i'm comparing them to the logical counterpart in the music world, their influences, which happen to be mostly IDM. as far as the albums being cold, i think they may have achieved that, although songs like treefingers or motion picture soundtrack are anything but cold. distant perhaps. i know what they were attempting to do, and kudos to them for doing it. i've been a fan of this band for a very long time, and i loved kid a when it came out. after hearing BOC or autechre, really the only two heavy IDM influences on the band, i went back to kid a and amnesiac and found they lacked something. maybe its the addition of lyrics to this type of music, i don't know. i still love this band, and i respect these albums for what they are, but they have ceased to satisfy me. |
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that was a response to titsworth by the way |
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i obviously have very mixed feelings about these two albums. its just that, OK computer was very importent to me, something no one else could touch, and i never skipped a track on it. in a way, its as rock and roll as an electronica album will get. i guess when radiohead use more electronic instruments, i just don't care for the overall feel of it. except like spinning plates. thats the kind of thing that to me is completely unique, and totally radiohead, and a beautiful piece of music as well. |
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What's an IDM album? feckin genres... O_o |
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I agree with you on LSP... absolutely superb piece of music. Always reminds me of the dwarf in twin peaks. |
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hmm. the thing i like about that track is that it doesn't remind me of anything. i remember when i first heard i was thinking that amnesiac would be their greatest album, but then i was completely let down by the rest of the music on it. |
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i think the supposed idm sound of the 2 albums is blown way out of proportion. on kid a i would definitely NOT call idioteque IDM -- to me it sounds like a piss-take of club music with elements of hip-hop and industrial thrown in, all done from a dadaist's perspective with the paul lansky sample. everything in its right place and kid a are more idm-ish but still, they're pretty straight forward and lack any of the techniques autechre has developed post-incunabula, and kid a has some very organic elements (the drums, though programmed, sound live, and it's way too light hearted to be compared to either BOC or Ae, IMO). i could go on, but i just don't see either album as being in the same vein as IDM. there are so many rock songs, and then you have forrays into jazz and more abstract styles (motion picture soundtrack, morning bell amnesiac, etc.). i think people are just being too unfair by measuring them against artists that supposedly influenced the album when radiohead never set out to compete. any such comparisons ruin the listening experience, i think. |
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i agree about idioteque. i just don't care if it is or isn't IDM. the only thing that i'm trying to get across is that i found a bunch of artists (BOC, autechre, squarepusher) who i thought had more soul than anything on Kid A or amnesiac. i wasn't really comparing them within musical genres, simply by their merits as music. |
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what genre is radiohead considered? alternative? idm? rock-idm? ?? |
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they should stick with rock! while some ppl still listen to them... and i guess they're considered rock |
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go radiohead go |
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yeah, they're going down!!! |
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radiohead's good music - its all the genre-fying and bollocks that gets talked about them that obscures this. Beyond that, what better way to position yourself as artier-than-thou than knocking the most visible of the "arty" bands around. I dont love all their stuff, but to be making accusations of people "ripping each other off" is missing the point in my opinion- theres nothing new under the sun. |
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heh |
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it's different being a radiohead fan in the US because here we have shit like puddle of mudd and such. like the smiths, they were constantly on the tv in the UK but only the college kids followed them in the US..? that's what it seems like at least. does anyone understand what i'm trying to say? |
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yeah dude, america fuckin sucks music wise |
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No dude youve made no sense to me whats so ever.....youre totally making a generalization on a message board of Aphex Twin and electronic music in general that not many people are into in the first place thats cause you live in a little town on Kansas =) |
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radiohead is a band of apocalypse prophets. ok computer was when they finally found their sound, but I've been a fan since pablo honey. someone told me that autechre is thom yorke's favorite music. I believe it... you can hear the influence all over kid a |
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this is a cruel joke i thought amonbrune had returned!!! |
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radiohead is genius!!! they are one of my favorite bands after NIN/TooL. also, the drummer from MuDvAyNe also likes Autechre a lot. Who couldn't, it's all genius tied together. ;... And, down with Linkin Park and all those other hip gangster wannabes. ..... |
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