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offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-09 01:08 [#00342441]
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I think the first step towards redemption for chesimone
would be to stop the practice of blanket
stereotyping...attributing the crimes of Zionists on all
jews is just as bad as calling every Muslim a terrorist..

Zionists are an entirely different species from the rest of
the Jewish community..they are the equivalent of the KKK in
Christian garb..
They have an imperialistic, expansionist agenda all their
own which has little to do with the plight of the Jewish
people..as proven by their refusal to help the inhabitants
of concentration camps in WWII when an escapee gave them
ample intelligence and know how to do so..they instead
prefered to use their resources towards their interests in
Jerusalem


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-08-09 01:18 [#00342446]
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i completely agree....

so, the moral of the story is: stereotypes/generalizations
suck.


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-09 01:41 [#00342475]
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Isn't a moral a generalisation?


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 04:07 [#00342555]
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"I think
America had it coming, I was not surprised at all."

Yeah really, I bunch of innocent people going to work just
trying to make a living, really had it coming to them.


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-09 05:05 [#00342575]
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chesimone: Your views disgust me. I don't understand how
someone can despise an entire group of people because of
what a few powerful individuals have done. I hope you are
banned.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-09 07:17 [#00342633]
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+Yeah really, I bunch of innocent people going to work just

trying to make a living, really had it coming to them.+

you also just described the millions of victims in Hiroshima
and Nagasaki..


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 08:06 [#00342661]
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What are you, some anti semitic neo-nazi?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 08:13 [#00342666]
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I think this guy has a reasonable grievance against the
Zionist state of Israel and its despicable treatment of the
Palestinains, but he's not mature enough to see that it has
nothing to do with religion or Jewish people per se. There
are more Jews in New York State than in Israel so any
equation with Zionism and Jewish people in gerneral is
proposterous. As Flea said, during WWII the Zionists blocked
Jewish migration to the US and did little/nothing to help
the Jews fleeing persecution. Their plans have always been
about expansionism and nothing to do with the fate of Jewish
people.

I don't think he is genuinely anti-semitic, just really
confused. Maybe he'll get his worldview sorted out in time.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 08:18 [#00342671]
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Yep, Israel is to Judaism is as Britain is to Christianity.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 09:41 [#00342755]
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What in the fuck is your problem Flea? Everytime someone
posts something, you gotta go and say some anti-us bullshit.
Btw, we dropped flyers and told Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and
the Japanese empire that we we're going to drop the bombs. I
mean that still doesn't justify droping em, but where was
the warning for the us? Two totaly diffrent situations, it's
stupid to compare the two. If we hadn't of dropped the bomb,
then we would of had to invade Japan, creating tremendous
amounts of casualties on both sides. It was the best choice
to make at the time back then.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 09:46 [#00342758]
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Complete bullshit of course. The war was pretty much over
and the only reason the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima
and Nagasaki was to say "we're the new rulers of the world
now. Don't fuck with us". I've put it rather crudely but
that's what it amounts to.

And what of the bombs dropped on Vietnam tek? The US dropped
more bombs on Vietnam than all the bombs dropped by both
sides during both world wars. And for what end?


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 09:57 [#00342763]
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Jonesy, you're so full of shit your eyes are brown. The only
reasons were:

To end the war quickley and lessen casualties.

To beat the communists to the punch.

And revenge for pearl harbor.

As for vietnam, no one even talking about it, and it's
totaly out of context.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:02 [#00342769]
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Well if we're talking about US bombing then I think it
couldn't be more relevant. It illustrates a consistency in
US military action.

But then you're a dumb-ass patriot with your head so far up
your arse you don't know your history.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:07 [#00342774]
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We wern't talking about US bombings ya fucking cum guzzler.
We were talking about the comparison between the WTC, and
Hiroshima. But then again you're just another one of those
educated pompus ass britts that probably has their head up
Bin Laden's ass.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:07 [#00342775]
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Fight fight fight fight!

"To end the war quickley and lessen casualties. " On the
american side
:)


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:09 [#00342781]
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Well what's wrong with being educated?


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:11 [#00342786]
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Well, you're not, you just think you are.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:11 [#00342787]
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No, no. I am.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:12 [#00342790]
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Worker's self education? Don't make me laugh. Unless you
went to Oxford you don't know a thing ;)


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:13 [#00342792]
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Lol, even if he did go to oxford.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:13 [#00342793]
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I went to the University of Life.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:16 [#00342795]
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And I went to the university of death, boy would I like to
demonstrate what I learned there on you.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:19 [#00342797]
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I went to Glamorgan, so don't mess with my massive
intellect! (Any people from Wales should find this amusing-
Glamorgan is an ex-polytechnic that is only any good for
computing and law, if you say you're from glamorgan without
specifying which degree you're doing they assume you're a
drop out bum)


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:23 [#00342801]
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Damn, you look too young to be in, or out of college. But
the again, you guys star college earlier I think.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:28 [#00342804]
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Ha ha, and when I wear a suit people think I'm older than I
am.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:33 [#00342808]
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Damn it's 3:30am over here, I gtg to bed. This "dumb-ass
patriot" has to work tomorrow.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:34 [#00342809]
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Damn it's 3:30am over here, I gtg to bed. This "dumb-ass
patriot" has to work tomorrow.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:34 [#00342810]
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I loathe academic snobbery.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:34 [#00342811]
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Damn it's 3:30am over here, I gtg to bed. This "dumb-ass
patriot" has to work tomorrow.


 

offline teknoterrorist from United States on 2002-08-09 10:36 [#00342812]
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Wtf? it posted 3 times. Anyway, Goodnight.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:36 [#00342814]
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It's great isn't it? One of my friends has a 2:1 in Law from
Bristol, he cannot get a placement as he has an inner city
london accent. Another of my friends has a 2:2 in Law from
Bristol, he *can* get a placement as he has a middle class
accent and plays golf.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:38 [#00342817]
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Tell your 2:1 mate to work on his accent and invest in some
golf trousers.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:38 [#00342819]
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G'night.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:38 [#00342820]
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Don't forget to wank over a copy of Guns and Ammo before you
go to bed eh?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:40 [#00342822]
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Maybe he should join the young tories too, that would no
doubt help him (I forgot to mention the 2:2 mate is a young
tory).


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 10:51 [#00342834]
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you associate with people right across the political
spectrum eh?


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2002-08-09 10:58 [#00342838]
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yeah Ceri I remember a while back you saying you were at a
young tories bash. I have my suspcions young man


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 11:02 [#00342842]
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Suspicions?! This guy is a fully paid-up member of the Anne
Widdecombe fan club and he runs a website dedicated to her.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 11:08 [#00342848]
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Ha ha, on my first weekend in Bristol I had nothing to do so
I tagged along with 2 mates to the young tories bash. The
people were elitist, ill informed and boring. The guest
speaker (some nondescript old tory back bencher) was talking
about drug abuse in prison and was using info years out of
date. I was quick to point this out to him in the "point of
information" format of debates. After that people pretty
much left me alone for the rest of the night. Although I did
nearly burn someon with my irish coffee...

Jonesy: Anne Widecombe is a psycho. She is also not
particularly attractive.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 11:25 [#00342859]
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Well, occassionally even I have to venture into the street
and walk past the peasents ;)

Seriously, I used to work as a labourer and a gardener. I
know all sorts of people. I'm not classist at all...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 11:25 [#00342860]
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And that is the perverse appeal she holds for you no?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 11:36 [#00342868]
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I think it's the idea that someone could be so ugly
and that stupid that really does it for me.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-10 01:06 [#00343624]
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+If we hadn't of dropped the bomb,
then we would of had to invade Japan, creating tremendous
amounts of casualties on both sides. It was the best choice

to make at the time back then. +

hunh..?

could there possibly be ANY MORE casualties on the Japanese
side in any conventional scenarios than caused by the
A-BOMB..are you actually aware of the fucking
statistics...are you aware of the millions of
"survivors"..that were trapped in the contaminated Third
Degree Burn hell..feeling as if they were burnt anew each
morning they woke up for decades..and the babies born years
after with symptons of radiation???

Not to mention plunging the arms race that we are yet to
recover from..is it comforting to know that currently means
exist to blow this entire planet a million times over...all
thanks to that attack...

sure it reduced the number of casualties..on the US
side..well your ground troops are a laughing stock of the
world..the most incompetent and klutzy soldier in existance
is a US marine..dont believe all the Rambo, Delta Force,
Special Forces bullshit..Even back in WWII..the Allied
soldiers used to make fun of the YANKS...and the single
biggest casualty the US suffered in Gul War was when the
partying US soldiers got too drunk of your piss weak
Budweisers and plunged to death on a Boat..seriously..Gulf
War veterans acquired the dubious skills of playing a damn
good game of poker in the desert wind and under the desert
sun

you are either too naive or to sick to try and diminsh the
impact of the Atomic Bomb attacks...



 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-10 04:37 [#00343671]
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Bush knew what was coming -- and it was more concrete than
some flyers dropped on a city as a parodic forbearing of the
atomic weapons soon to be taking their place


 


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