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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-17 13:57 [#00270495]
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In one way I wish I liked guys too but in another way I don't If I did I would broaden my experience and not restrict my sexuality, on the other the number of attractive people I gawp at would double.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-17 14:00 [#00270501]
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i think eveyone should have that "other sex" fling. even if it doen't become sexual.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-06-17 14:07 [#00270521]
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no they should not...i dont wan to sound homophobic, im not against true gays, but what u suggest is wrong and unatural, sorry
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-17 14:12 [#00270529]
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There is no such thing as natural and unatural behaviour in humans. Everything we do comes under the banner of being 'natural' as we do it.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-17 17:26 [#00270817]
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good show Resident Evil... be proud of who you are!!! :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-17 17:37 [#00270838]
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I'm happy! does that count? oh i forgot that meaning of the word has become archaic in today's society. I don't really care if people are gay, live and let fuck I say. One of my sister's best friends is gay and he's a very good person, its unfair to judge someone just by their sexuality. Cha!
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-06-17 17:45 [#00270850]
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" Oh snap!"
Anywho....Being gay is gay. Im half gay, but gay is good and gay and oh no I've gone cross eyed.
Pretty song = Thunder Plateau-FF10.
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-06-17 17:46 [#00270853]
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Thanks Funkmaster =D
I came out to friends & family about a year ago. Everyone was cool except one "friend" who after me telling him decided he no longer wanted to be friends with me. Oh well, atleast I know who my real friends are!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 18:04 [#00270875]
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hmm, maybe I should tell everyone i'm gay to see who my friends are, that'd be a laugh!
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-06-17 18:06 [#00270878]
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Dude.....Its so stupid to lose friends over sexuality, and it sucks even more that you hafta hide it at first, just to survive, or be left alone.....
I hate it when people try to convince you that your NOT gay!
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 19:48 [#00271035]
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i know lots of gay people, they are all lovely human beings first though
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 21:15 [#00271229]
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there is nothing unnatural about homosexuality sexual repression is more unnatural and less healthy - and on the science tip - i think a diverse society is a healthy society also because gay people cannot reproduce together - you could argue that gay people keep us from overpopulating if you like as well - but this is a bit silly . I've a few gay mates and their sexualitty isn't really an issue .. i just like em ..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 21:20 [#00271245]
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Someone I know, he recently came out and his father, who is a doctor, thinks its an illness and says there's going to be pills coming out to stop it..
very sad =(
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 21:22 [#00271254]
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yep it's pretty dangerous i think when you can buy drugs to curb or contain "unwanted " emotions - far to close to brainwashing - emotions good and bad are the things that make humans incredible
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 04:07 [#00271956]
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nature's an elastic word. a lot of what people do is break apart systems and structures, make them clogged and backed up, unecological. That could be defined as natural simply because it's happening in reality and all reality could be defined as nature. Or, as one definition I've read, nature is that which isn't interfered with by humans. in this definition, keeping in mind people can agree on any meaning they want to otherwise meaningless words, it is the opposite of "artificial".
I think gayness is either mutated into the gene pool because natural selection doesn't select much anymore for our species (just saw a show on elephants and ones who mutated/inherited the "no tusks" gene are becoming dominant because poachers don't killem and they can reproduce/pass on their genes.- eh sorta unreleated) Or it's nurture/cultural in cause, or it's a combo of both.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 07:07 [#00272052]
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lose the pseudo-science...we're talking about living, breathing human beings here...
There are real limits as to what science can deal with & this area simply isn't one...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 09:55 [#00274514]
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I agree there are limits to human knowledge about their world, it would be difficult to take a view otherwise. Our brains have evolved only in ways that happened to be the most successful in reproducing the genes of their owners thereby making new/more individuals with these traits.
Reality simply exists whether people understand it or not though. that they're living breathing humans doesn't really alter whether science can provide solid theories in this topic. I probably sounded like an idiot explaining the scientific theory/view I adopted for now.
One example, it would make sense that girl humans would recognize a beard as a sexually attractive identification of manliness. (baby birds of one species innately peck at a red spot on the mother's bill to make her regurgitate... if provided with an index card with a red dot, they peck, the bigger the dot/more striking the contrast, the more pronounced their reaction just as an example of how genetic we run) Now what happens in a culture when practically all men shave, just as one example. I'm forced to in order to have my current job for example. As for my bizarre sexual quirk, I have a very powerful clothes pin feedish, I wish they'd make a magazine for people like me, but apparently I'm too much in the minority.
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:01 [#00274517]
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afxnumb, just whack it through p-shop I think funkmaster has already caught it what is that throbbing red pole hes holding?
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:02 [#00274519]
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did you know Alexander the great was given some dude as a gift to have sexual relations with?
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:03 [#00274523]
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dang lucky him
I always just get aftershave for xmas
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 10:08 [#00274528]
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no I did not know that... I read the very brief summary of how he conquered a whole bunch of cities and stuff, then pretty much couldn't control/organize them all (too vast) and they organization fell apart. It was some book made in like the 1960's when people took time and effort in their writings. Well I'm still reading it, I'm on page, like 12 if I ever pick it up again...
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:12 [#00274531]
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well he controled them just fine but when he died it was divided between his generals because his male lover had died a few months before and his two sons where a baby and an unborn, both of them were later murdered
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:14 [#00274535]
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now they didnt cover that in the bbc doco did they?!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 10:17 [#00274537]
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They didn't mention his homosexuality, well the title of the book did say "brief" something er ather about time...
It was interesting in a discovery channel show that poacher poachers (people who poach poachers) exist. They actually shot and killed like 4 elephant poachers right on tv, and I guess it was perfectly legal in africa. Converstations are contests, the goal is to take what the other person said and run the other way or something- calvin and hobbes, random postum, i shudup or somthien e a ljkaf e e of o fo of of fo f
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:20 [#00274538]
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haha well i take classics at school so i know...
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:20 [#00274539]
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wmw:
yes
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:23 [#00274540]
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ancient greeks were almost all bisexuals,,
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:25 [#00274544]
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thats a bit of a generalization their bisexuality was bound by strict societal confines, for two grown men to fuck was frowned upon
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 10:28 [#00274549]
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there were some sick evil political tyrants from what I've read, glad there's democracy now, though maybe it forces the majority of people to always have the say so. Well do the right thing if you want to start a religion and have lots and lots of kids. then make it part of the religious faith TO have lots and lots of kids, then you'll become the majority over time simply by biomass... I know little about politics. Nero seems to be one sick mo fo, I bet he'd make awesome music.
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:30 [#00274552]
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yes
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:31 [#00274554]
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if by frowned upon u mean extremly common then ur correct..
but actually i think it was usually a grown man and a young youth that paired up so not two men of the same age...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 10:32 [#00274556]
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I should add that using an anus as a vagina practically must be regarded as misfiring behavior. (behavior that evolved with the intention of gene replication, but accidently got a wee bit mixed up... er) like those chicks that will peck at a flash card of a red dot is misfiring behavior.
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:37 [#00274566]
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anuses are never used as vaginas...nothing can replace vaginas...
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:39 [#00274571]
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so that makes masturbation "misfiring behaivour"?
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:41 [#00274574]
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yeah salma thats what i mean it was always a younger/ older mentor type deal, ancient greece had few gays in the way that we mean the term now
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:48 [#00274581]
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alexander's lover was his own age...
also i consider a guy who has sex with another guy gay weather he's older or the same age is irelevant...
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 10:53 [#00274588]
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it was different in battle situations as they paired up guys to make them fight harder to protect each other
yeah age is irrelevant, Im just saying thats what the greeks did
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 10:55 [#00274591]
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that only applied to one city state, not sure which one though
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xtiaan
from city of lost children (New Zealand) on 2002-06-19 11:01 [#00274594]
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*stands corrected* I wonder which state.....
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 11:01 [#00274595]
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maybe Thessaly or Thebes
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Salma Hayek
on 2002-06-19 11:03 [#00274599]
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i think it started with T
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-06-19 21:16 [#00275500]
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from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-06-19 21:16 [#00275501]
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 21:17 [#00275503]
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I wish I was gay, because girls are SOOOOOO frustrating. Guys seem so much simpler. They'd like to think differently, but they ARE simple.
Girls think guys are complicated because girls are dumb and can't comprehend just how SIMPLE we are.
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-06-20 05:05 [#00276150]
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gay topic! Is there any topic you can't find on this forum? hahahahahaha!
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