|
|
Kryocera
from Plano, TX (United States) on 2002-07-04 23:30 [#00297114]
Points: 92 Status: Lurker
|
|
is it just me, or what, but I have never been too impressed with DJ Shadow. In my mind he is nothing compared to the likes of RDJ or Tom J. Most stuff I've heard bores me.
What tracks by him would change my mind? Maybe I havent heard the right stuff.
|
|
titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-05 00:34 [#00297180]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Kryocera: #00297114
|
|
"lonely soul" (unkle), "dark days main theme", "high noon", "midnight in a perfect world", "fixed income", "stem/long stem", "building steam with a grain of salt", "rabbit in your headlights" (unkle)
|
|
Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-10-08 20:04 [#00396957]
Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
|
|
this is a kinda silly arguement
|
|
jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-08 20:08 [#00396961]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker
|
|
dj shadow is mad boring. i really like endtroducing, but i have yet to hear anything since that doesn't make me lose patience. i prefer shoelaces over mcdonalds.
|
|
revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-10-08 20:15 [#00396971]
Points: 3167 Status: Lurker
|
|
Very Hard to compare. I guess I like Shadow a bit more, but that's only because I only like AE's 1st 3 albums.
Very tough choice, they both rule.
|
|
Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-08 20:18 [#00396975]
Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
|
|
I just can't seem to get into DJ Shadow, and I've tried... it's just not my thing. Autechre crushes him into a fine paste.
Some people say topics like this are dumb, ''you can't compare them, two different styles, etc''... I LIKE topics like this. Everything was put on this earth for comparison! Chocolate bars are better than Venetian Snares, for example. Porn is better than Mario Lemieux.
|
|
titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-08 20:44 [#00397004]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ophecks: #00396975
|
|
musically what's the commonality?
|
|
Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-10-08 22:28 [#00397079]
Points: 2461 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00397004
|
|
there is no commonality.
there is no "vs"
I think Ae is better in many ways over dj Shadow... but again, is just my opinnion
long live dear Ae
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 08:57 [#00967657]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker
|
|
it really was a strange comparison
but it was fun reading through it
|
|
Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-27 09:02 [#00967661]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Ophecks: #00396975 | Show recordbag
|
|
I reckon he's pretty good, but far overrated in my opinion. I just don't see what's so amazing about the track "Midnight in a perfect world" which everyone seems to think is one of the best tracks of all time... it's good you know, very moody and smokey, but it's not like it's breaking any new ground musically... trip hop had been around for years before this.
I personally think RJD2 does DJ Shadow type stuff far better.
|
|
Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-27 09:53 [#00967722]
Points: 374 Status: Regular
|
|
i love them both... but i get bored of shadows music before i get bored of autechres. this could simply be becasuse theres more of autechres music to keep me going, or it could be because autechres music has more depth who knows.
also, from some of the 'anti-autechre' comments (for want of a better word, stuff like i could never get into autechre, im listening now and keeep having to skip tracks cos they get boring.
to my mind autechre isnt great music for sitting there, listening, and waiting for it to grab u by the balls. at least not at first. much better to stick it on as background noise in my opinion. after a few plays u begin to 'get' the music, and soon it becomes comprehensible even to just listen to whilst doing nothing else. certainly i find this is the case with the later, more twisted stuff.
The earlier stuff was instant pleasure for me.
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-27 10:12 [#00967743]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
|
|
the later stuff is instant pleasure for me.
the older stuff bores me quicker.
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 10:19 [#00967747]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00967743
|
|
of who?
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-27 10:20 [#00967748]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to nacmat: #00967747
|
|
awetekkur.
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 10:21 [#00967751]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00967748
|
|
since when do you consider their later stuff?
I mean... what releases are included in that later stuff?
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-27 10:23 [#00967752]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to nacmat: #00967751
|
|
I really dislike Incunabula. it does almost nothing for me.
so that and basscadet really.. :)
amber has great stuff on it - foil and glitch are classic tracks, incredible even.
but as whole albums (as in: I listen to it as a whole album and like it), I think ae is best from chiastic slide and onwards.
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-27 10:23 [#00967753]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
|
|
and DJ Shadow does completely nothing for me.
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 10:28 [#00967755]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00967752
|
|
I also prefer autechre since chiastic (in albums)
but garbage, peel session and anvil vapre are great!!!
|
|
qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-27 10:30 [#00967756]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to nacmat: #00967755
|
|
meh.
I also like the ep's more since Da Slide.
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 10:34 [#00967763]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00967756
|
|
for me in albums its like you:
chiastic lp5 confield draft
I listen to these much more than what I do with incunabula, amber or tri repetae even though I love them too
but with eps I think I listen a lot more to peel 1, garbage and anvil vapre, than waht I listen to gantz graf, peel 2 or cichlisuite
of course I didnt mention envane cos i listen to it a lot (exception)
|
|
ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2003-11-27 10:44 [#00967781]
Points: 2712 Status: Addict
|
|
i doubt anything can come close to Draft 7.30 especially an artist who names start with the letters D and J
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 11:01 [#00967810]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to ChildrenTalking: #00967781
|
|
is draft your favourite album by autechre?
|
|
k_maty
on 2003-11-27 11:16 [#00967821]
Points: 2362 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #00967810
|
|
nacmat you should resurrect that "rank your favorite idm artists" or whatever poll. that was cool.
|
|
happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-11-27 11:21 [#00967823]
Points: 2786 Status: Regular | Followup to cygnus: #00296954
|
|
rice over beans any day
cake over rice tho..
|
|
dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-27 11:26 [#00967826]
Points: 12426 Status: Regular
|
|
Music is good, sometimes.
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-27 11:48 [#00967859]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to k_maty: #00967821
|
|
you mean the championship witht the voting and all that?
that is in march when woofer and I do it
|
|
titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-29 20:00 [#00970842]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ceri JC: #00967661
|
|
yeah but would RJD2 have a career without dj shadow? no. his music is completely indebted to dj shadow. instrumental sample-based hip-hop would be nothing without dj shadow (not the 1st of his kind but the best by far).
|
|
zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-29 20:02 [#00970844]
Points: 4428 Status: Addict
|
|
for one, why are you comparing these two albums? i suppose you could assert that autechre is the future of hip hop and that dj shadow recycles its past to make its future, but that would be really pretentious just for a messageboard comparison...
autechre sucks nuts, dj shadow rocks.
|
|
electro
from detroit on 2003-11-29 20:26 [#00970865]
Points: 2880 Status: Regular
|
|
well autechre's music is like the abstract pieces of classical music where the music is a SUPREME musical existance
dj shadow is like vivaldi's four season classical yet....POPish
|
|
electro
from detroit on 2003-11-29 20:28 [#00970869]
Points: 2880 Status: Regular | Followup to electro: #00970865
|
|
confield is a masterpiece it makes me shiver with every glitch and static sound draft is just pure electronic love, so warm and...cold at the same time
masterpieces for all times
|
|
kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-11-29 22:38 [#00971025]
Points: 2311 Status: Addict
|
|
and now, eternity.
|
|
Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-29 22:50 [#00971027]
Points: 374 Status: Regular
|
|
i didnt mean i prefer the older stuff, i meant the older stuff is more instantly accessable (in much the same way as dj shadow is instantly accessible)
|
|
E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-11-30 03:36 [#00971128]
Points: 3000 Status: Regular
|
|
they CAN be compared because they both do MUSIC tho it's pointless beyond the "i like him/them more because..." due to subjectivity of the subject
as for confield i think it's splendid, pure aural bliss... but have you ever wondered that many OLD records sound like it in one way or another so you can't really say they're better because they do things YOU never heard...
|
|
boket
from Australia on 2003-11-30 04:48 [#00971147]
Points: 198 Status: Lurker
|
|
ae would win easily.
they outnumber dj two to one.
rob could get shadow in a headlock while sean administers a severe nipple cripple.
|
|
ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2003-11-30 14:45 [#00971732]
Points: 2712 Status: Addict
|
|
to answer nacmat's question, yes Draft 7.30 is my fav. autechre album, as of now...
|
|
nacmat
on 2003-11-30 15:41 [#00971760]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker
|
|
actually autechre is not far away from hip hop
|
|
weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-11-30 16:28 [#00971795]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
|
|
Jesus, I cant believe I made this thread.
|
|
WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-12-01 10:04 [#00972461]
Points: 12920 Status: Lurker | Followup to weatheredstoner: #00971795
|
|
me too :)
|
|
Combo
from Sex on 2006-05-04 18:05 [#01892922]
Points: 7540 Status: Regular
|
|
That thread is pretty funny. These two artists are very different. The topic you arouse sounds like something people could ask when they only know 2 artists. =D Two great artists btw.
|
|
i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-04 18:11 [#01892928]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular
|
|
nothing changes
|
|
cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-04 21:42 [#01892974]
Points: 11920 Status: Regular
|
|
haha more like planetary gravity versus taking a shit?
|
|
B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-05-04 23:00 [#01892989]
Points: 1361 Status: Lurker
|
|
Shadow shits me with his "yeah give it up ya'll listen to my 10 minute intro ya'll. Do you love me?"
|
|
somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-05-07 09:15 [#01894306]
Points: 1441 Status: Lurker
|
|
dj shadow once said that he doesn't dig most of the Warp stuff because it doesn't have soul. i can agree with that to an extent.
personally i could see myself having a lot more fun at a Shadow show than an Autechre show for a few reasons. Shadow's show would be more dancing and interacting, where Autechre's would probably be the typical dudes with their arms crossed trying to figure out what they are doing to make that sound. boooooring to me.
|
|
staz
on 2006-05-07 09:20 [#01894308]
Points: 9844 Status: Regular
|
|
dj shadow has always been extremely overrated in my opinion...
|
|
Messageboard index
|