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offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:14 [#00205891]
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but u dont have a good reason...

..(do u?) if u do, please post away


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-05-05 02:14 [#00205893]
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Stick to your guns Aminal, say two lesbians/gays bring up a
child, the child realises he/she is gay later in life.

What's wrong with that?



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:15 [#00205895]
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any reason is a good one to someone who believes so..... im
still against them adopting.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-05-05 02:16 [#00205897]
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Is it the parents 'fault'?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:17 [#00205901]
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...r u with me or against me?

ya, what IS wrong with that?
nothing!

theres never been anything to suggest that people w/ gay
parents turn out to be gay more than usual...

...and if they DO:
1) so what?
2) its probably only because they understand that that is OK
to be gay, so they are more free to feel that way, and
wouldn't be in denial for their whole life, like a
surprisingly LARGE number of "straight" people ;)


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-05-05 02:18 [#00205904]
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i dated an ex-raver, she didn't even do it anymore, and it
was THE worst decision in my life, followed by THE worst 8
months of my life.

Generalization = ravers are heartless, soulless gouls, a
least in the states. They never change either.

Ravers suck, dunno about you kidz across the pond though....


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:19 [#00205906]
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So what? Your just saying that the onyl reason people are
gay is because they think its ok to be like that? NO. Its a
chemical/genetic defect..... { i mean doesnt make them a
defect, but in scientific terms, YES its true] they are
mutant....


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:20 [#00205907]
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its straight parents "fault" that their kids are straight:)

..lol

but, no, i don think so....

the majority of people will always be heterosexual, because
its our natural instinct (for MOST of us).....

...some people will always be gay/lesbian too....... (just
like in all mamals) but never THAT much


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:22 [#00205909]
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Yeah.. the raver thing you just said... mostly true from
what I know, iam dating an exraver too.... she was hardcore
into it, but not at all anymore and thinks its stupid
now.... things are great.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:22 [#00205911]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to REFLEX: #00205906



no, thats NOT what i said.....

thats why ii said: no, they wouldn't turn out MORE gay than
w/ straight parents...

..BUT MAYBE more of them would ADMIT to being gay, because
their culture would be ok with it.....

..but they would prob. be gay raised by straight parents
anyway....

..im just saying a larger percentage might come out of the
closet, thats all


 

offline XePhA88 from San Jose (United States) on 2002-05-05 02:23 [#00205913]
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well.. this is how i see it: there are raves... and there
are parties... raves are parties... but not all parties are
raves.. raves only occur when you get the scene full of
candy wearing E-tards all gaked out of their minds dancing
like fucking idioits in the mud. parties occur when you
have a dj, and people enjoying the music... (which happens
to be the case at a rave)....

so my response, is yes i goto raves, but never on purpose, i
was most likely trying to goto a party. I'll find this out
again tonight..


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-05-05 02:23 [#00205914]
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I'm with you. If you 'blame' the adults that bring a child
up for 'Gayness' then you are just stupid.



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:25 [#00205915]
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someones to blame.. beisdes this is getting old... who gives
a shit. I say "thats gay" to a lot of things.. its not a
habbit and i dont give a shit.

xepha hasnt been here forever...


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-05-05 02:25 [#00205916]
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The whole 'Candy Raver' scene is funny! We don't really
have that in Europe. Raves in america are more like a Coke
advert with really bad actors.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:25 [#00205917]
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ya, i agree with you

i think it will be funny 100 years from now... when they
read in history text books about how poorly gays were
treated by our society..
it will be embarassing


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 02:26 [#00205918]
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I doubt things will change...


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-05 02:30 [#00205923]
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ravings wicked - its the reason why you have the electronic
music you love - if you don't like the the music on offer do
it yourself !



 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-05 03:22 [#00205947]
Points: 3727 Status: Regular | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #00205923



i really don't understand why you ppl hate raving so
much...i've met a lot of intelligent ppl who go to raves,
and have met a lot of posers, and a lot of dumbasses, and
airheads...ppl should go to raves for urself...if you don't
dig house, simply walk over to the Dn'B rooms, or the trance
rooms etc., the reason why i started this topic is because i
got offer's to start Djing at venues, and i wanted to know
what you ppl would like to see change...but instead this
thread has filled w/ hipocratical close-mindedness, and
some-how evolved into homosexual upbringings...it's very
unfair to profile any group of ppl...be it goths, rappers,
ravers, be it by race, or class...I've alwyas respected
ppl's opinions, but this thread has made me lose a lot of
faith in this board...

also to reply to astrid:

yes! do it ur fucking self! if you don't like it, change it!
don't whine about it...or bash it...fucking make it ur
own...that's my goal here in seattle, and hopefully
elsewhere...

-DJ "End User"-

Spinning/Mixing/Shreding Power Electronics, Dance
Industrial, American Industrial, Hardcore, Gabber, and even
IDM..."all synthetic, all the time"


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-05 03:52 [#00205960]
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REFLEX:

"Why would saying gay in a bad manner like
"thats gay" be so bad?"

well, just a hunch, but maybe gay people don't like the word
that descibes their sexuality to be used to describe things
that are stupid, bad, lame, whatever. it's not a complex
issue. it's a simple matter of respect. you can say gay in
a negative sense all you want, but don't fool yourself into
thinking it's not disrespectful.

you obviously have troubles with the issue of gender and
sex. why do think a man can't be nurturing? a gay couple
can adopt and raise a child as healthy as any family.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-05 10:42 [#00206119]
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so and people dont like others using the word bitch, or
slut, or even fuck, but we all do dont we? So unless you
dont swear and mean it in a negative sense then I should be
allowed to use the word fag in the same way.


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 12:28 [#00206276]
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gaying fuckin fat ass raver bastards ggrrrrrrr!
dont you just love it!


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-05 12:47 [#00206291]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



I've seen pictures of raves in canada and they look really
fucking stupid. When saying we don't have raves here, I
meant like that...people with dummies in their mouths in
dungarees, surely that went out with acid house?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-05 12:49 [#00206294]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to REFLEX: #00206119



Yeah but the use of words like that is used in a derogatory
fashions, so ofcourse its going to be seen as negative. You
can't see something shit and call it 'gay' and not expect a
gay person (or anyone else) to get upset because you are
inferring they are shit too.


 


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