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A friend of mine was putting up equipment on the club "Villa" around 300m from the explosion, he and one more guy came out before the roof collapsed. But a few injured there.. Villa must most likely be demolished. |
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his manifest is online http://www.2shared.com/document/7_M9C66M/2083-AEuropeanDecl arationofInd.html |
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Dozens of people are dead and all you can think about is your mental conspiracy theories. Sad. |
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Oh I'm sorry, let me hold a candle light vigil before I start looking into the event. |
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Yes, reading the facts would help. |
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Yes, you're right. I should definitely read the facts posted by the MSM. Shame on me for not doing that. |
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Read the FACTS. Not msn you stupid fool. |
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Hey no reason to get sand in your trap. For all I could have known you meant the MSM. And I do have [some of] the facts. Like this bombing taking place on a Government Holiday when those buildings were (nearly) empty. Or the fact that the explosion took place underground. |
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It's more about kids being shot you dumb twit. |
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Pretty bad trolling their Alan, but you do need to practice somewhere. |
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No proper reply, not surprising you timid little wate. |
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Waste |
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Alan is jivverdicker, he's had plenty of troll practice. But this time I think he actually makes a good point: there is no justification for 9/11 truther type conspiracy theories in this situation-- it takes an individual that is severely fucked up in the head to kill 90+ kids. Let's just assume for now that it was just one crazy piece of shit before going all infowars conspiracy on this. |
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Alan is Jivverdickhead, no surprise. He has about 10 people he can troll on here. Infowars conspiracy (gatekeeping website to say the least)? I myself find it hard to believe that this "Anders" was able to rig such a huge explosion (underground) and kill 80+ people on an island. I never once said he didn't commit these atrocities. For all we know he could be a patsy or like I said a provocateur. I looked up some old forum posts by this man from early 2010, and from reading them you would get ZERO indication he was messed up. I am not saying that he wasn't, but shame on anyone who points the finger at me for bringing up the point that others could be (most likely) be involved. |
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why is it hard to believe? there are several survivors who've given a pretty grisly account of his tactics on that island. Why would they lie? He was able to get the fertilizer for the bomb on account of his involvement with some farm (he may have even owned the farm, I guess). Why jump to conspiracy conclusions? To me it seems like you're looking for evidence (the government was on holiday) to fit your notions of governments being evil entities. I remember you came out with some strong libertarian positions in the past (I'm generally libertarian too), but you can't always fit a round peg in a square hole. Anyway RIP all you little dudes in Oslo. Cx, I've seen you lurking around, glad you're ok. Gotta hit the books. |
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Again, not once did I say he did not commit these atrocities. I find it hard to believe he acted alone. Again, patsy, provocateur, etc. etc. Yes, he supposedly had a watermelon (?) farm which is how he was able to score the fertilizer. All the pieces are there, but I find it hard to believe this is a lone gunman scenario. I am not finding things to fit my worldview. Shame on you or anyone else that chastises me for thinking there is more at play here than a lone gunman. This was an extremely well planned and executed attack. Don't forget that just recently Norway has become very vocal about their support for the Palestinians. I love how I am attacked for my opinion. This was a horrible event and my thoughts go out to those on here who may have been effected in some way. How about you put that energy at who actually deserve to be called out for saying unbelievable things. |
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See, but I think it really does come down to world view, for both of us. (going by my recollection of your previous posts) You tend to mistrust governmental entities, and given the current geopolitical climate, you'd be surprised if there weren't some dark strings being pulled by some group of people with political motives. I work in psychology and my worldview says that given the rates of mental illness, I'm surprised there aren't more people flipping out like this all time. Evidence to fit my worldview: this guy was clearly sick, enjoying what he was doing. ("Come out and play, I won't hurt you." according to the reports, etc) I really am surprised this doesn't happen way, way more often. Anyway I don't mean to chastise you. I really do have to get back to work. |
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It's a bad spot to go off on a tangent I am about to. I know, so please ignore my rant. What really bothers me about I work in psychology and my worldview says that given the rates of mental illness, I'm surprised there aren't more people flipping out like this all time. and essentially the whole field of psychology/psychiatry is their way of plotting any mental state onto some scale of mental illness. You're surprised there aren't more people flipping out, because you (you + the entire field of psychology/psychiatry) have got no clue as to what an actual mental illness is and what is not. Your surprise is the cherry on the pudding. Or rather the smoking gun. To me, psychology/psychiatry is losing it's legitimacy very fast. Mental illnesses seem to be created to push some more pills and to keep the economy of therapies/pills growing. You're part of a business which makes money by classifying people to have a mental illness. Sicko. Apart from that I've got no grapes against you as a person whatsoever. This is really not about you. |
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I should point out, my BA is psych, and I've had some training in that field, but I'm actually working towards a Masters in Social Work. I am by no means planning on being any kind of therapist or clinician. "you + the entire field of psychology/psychiatry have got no clue as to what an actual mental illness is and what is not." This is essentially true... the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders lays out certain agreed upon criteria for what a mental disorder is, but does that really qualify it as a "true mental illness?" Most in the field would probably say "no, it doesn't; but research has indicated that this treatment for this criteria has yielded the most positive results." If you like the scientific method, then you'll appreciate this, if not, I don't know what to tell you. I don't quite understand what issue you take with my surprise. Population is increasing, economy is down, stress is up, guns are readily available (at least here in the US, and it seems like Norway too), and whether you'd like to believe it or not there are a lot of people out there that have some seriously fucked up cognitions. Some of these people are dangerous, some are not. I feel I'm justified in my surprise that more people don't go berserk, like this piece of shit in Oslo did. |
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Thanks for the reply. Good points. My actual issue is that my sister, who is far in her 30's, recently got diagnosed to have Aspergers. Or to be close in the spectrum. After having done some test at some professional institute. And this was right after having been sacked, and having given birth to her second which she nearly didn't survive. I mean, what's the point of that test? Does the test help in any way? After all that's she's going through right now, the test is actually relevant? Well, she thinks it is. And it pisses me off to great levels. |
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Well, I don't know your sister or her situation, nor do I really know the standard course of testing or treatments for aspergers (I think it's really considered more of a personality disorder than a clinical mental disorder though), but if she has problematic thoughts and behaviors that are causing her real disress, then I would be for any kind of treatment that would better her quality of life-- usually it's a mix of cognitive/behavioral therapy (identifying bad, faulty or destructive thoughts and learning coping mechanisms) and medication (to correct chemical imbalance, not sure if aspergers typically needs this) In the end, it'll be up to her though. Here is the for aspergers. |
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DSM is the book of the devil. The idea that a diagnose can be made without taking the context into account. Or putting each kind of visual behavior in some kind of box wrt to mental illnesses. At this point I have more faith in NLP. There I go again... |
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_READ THE FUCKING MANIFEST_ |
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THE LAST TO POST IN CAPITALS IS A LOSER |
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The Internet once again some how miraculously making a really shitty event even worse. |
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sounds really fishy dude THERES MORE TO THIS THAN THE WORLD WANTS ME TO KNOW |
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His manifest is more or less a copy of the Unabomber's manifest. After reading part of it, i find it hard to find he co-operating with someone. He claims being part of larger organization, similar of knights of the round table. He has made a journal of his 10 last years, more detailed for the latter 3. Frightening to read.... |
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his |
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I'm fucking disgusted by the people in this thread that are using it to further whatever whacked out, paranoid delusions they have. Fuck off to infowars, you inconsiderate twats. You are inhumane. |
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And I do have [some of] the facts. Like this bombing taking place on a Government Holiday when those buildings were (nearly) empty. Well gee professor fuckniblets, I'm sorry the explosion didn't kill enough people to soothe your conspiracy fevered brain. Let's all join hands and pray for a higher death toll next time. |
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Hey asshole, I was merely pointing out if he wanted to kill a lot of people he would have done so on a regular business day when the area would be filled with lots of people. But no, people died and that is that. No one should question anything. |
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if someone wants to believe in a conspiracy just let him. or debate him, instead of calling him names. and ignore the trolls |
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can't wait to hear what other rights will soon be stripped away in the name of security. "people died". yes, it's sad, but how about the hundreds of thousands that are killed in illegal wars every day? do you cry over them? their families? No you're too busy sitting in front of your widescreen getting spoonfed by fucking bbc or some shit. its kind of like the response I get when bringing up Operation Northwoods in response to 9/11... "people DIED there MANNN, you're so fucked up", completely turning their back on anything they might learn in the process by having an open mind. |
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FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF |
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I get what you're saying, and if he was a bit more devious, he would not only have exploded that bomb during the busy hours like u said, but make up a fake statement where he claims the bomb was from some sort of new scandinavian islamic extremist organization, who feel inspired by Q'ran etc., with the message that they will not rest until all kafirs are under the banner of Sharia law. He would then not have killed the children and thereby reveal his identity, nor allow himself to get caught, but would simply carry on exploding bombs in the name of Islam. This would eventually create division amongst the Norwegian people, and they would slowly become antagonistic against islam, a course which would sooner lead to an expulsion of rapidly breeding muslims from the european continent than this current action of his, which probably has the opposite effect. |
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i know, the truth hurts doesn't it |
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i feel like you sort of people are going to talk so much about this stuff that one day it will actually happen, and then people like me are going to look really stupid hu |
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,do you think its possible to create a new reality with words and ideas n shit? a reality where you might feel as if you are capable of comprehending everything, all succinctly explained from one point of view? |
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nah i don't believe in any new age bullshit or wear a tin foil hat. do you sort of people really believe that just talking and typing about what's coming is going to make it happen? I wish we had that much influence. Try doing some reading instead of joking out of complete and utter ignorance. A few keywords "you sort of people" might wanna read up on if you have some spare time false flag attack operation northwoods martial law globalist agenda freemasonry police state bilderberg group ...that stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. If it does not interest you at all, just remember to thank the pigs in uniform for 'protecting' your yellow ass once full on martial law is declared. its alllll for your protection. |
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sorry staz. for making this thread suck so much. totally undeserved. my apologies. |
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rsicko i wasnt really talking to you at that point it was more of a thing i was just typing. dont respond to my posts while i hate you i hope that norway recovers quickly from this it's hard to imagine that this wont affect things for a long time. im so glad he was caught instead of killed but i dont feel like theres going to be many clear answers. this kind of guy just happens to the world sometimes |
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The mainstream media has been a complete disgrace, one misinformation after the other or blatantly lying. |
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I don:t know if that guy was mentally ill. See, the germans killed millions of people in ww2, you think they were all mentally ill? I guess the right wing propaganda did have some influence on him, maybe because he already had antisocial tendencies. |
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When brain cant rewire itself this conditions to be stranded on one believe system. This is result of lack of blood flow in certain areas of the brain which allows to change mind and switch easily from one thought to another. This is one possibility, I think, don't u think so? |
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what a shit thread. really. |
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It's really dangerous and deluded to think this has shady political motives behind it, like a staged attack for the control of western beliefs about how we perceive terrorism. if you start looking for clues they will appear but they hold no solidarity or investigative merit... just a tangent of loose ideas which conveniently fit together because you want them to. People like Alex Jones peice together information sporadically and make up half of it on the spot and he is a fear mongering fat bastard anyway... All you have is the most likely version of reality, which is a voiceless right wing sociopath, that resorted to the most cruel and shocking acts of violence; killing innocent lives with the sole perpose of promoting his sick politcal frustrations to the world... driven with anger and hatred for the left wing Norway. This meglomaniac planned and executed his attack purely to get himself in the spotlight....but he did nothing but cause complete devastation to so many |
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Alex Jones probably shares the same racist, nationalist ideology that is filled with crude conspiracy theories and hate against a modern society. |
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if you start looking for clues they will appear but they hold no solidarity or investigative merit... just a tangent of loose ideas which conveniently fit together because you want them to. Precisely. You can create thrilling narratives that make your nipples hard but fiction with some details "torn from the headlines" is still fiction. I heard the asshole "historian" Webster Tarpley on Alex Jones a couple months ago and he began "I imagine..." then spun a story about Obama yelling at some CIA guy re: Libya. Then proceeded on like this was established fact he hadn't by his own admission completely invented! Maybe I'm wrong to gas on about this but you conspiracy guys are mental peasants and it's fucking up the world pretty bad. get a brain morans |
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