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offline JivverDicker from my house on 2010-07-09 03:08 [#02386414]
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How far did you 'explore' pulseclock? What were the names
of the families that you spoke to that are hurting.

It's great that you spout crap on an IDM forum though.
That'll help the dead.


 

offline clark672010 on 2010-07-09 03:17 [#02386415]
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why do u say that??


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-07-09 03:43 [#02386420]
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This is a good introduction. Another point that
needs to be brought up is speaking in absolutes. If the
crime is so heinous that it would be impossible to cover up,
that somewhere along the line something would come out, than
the opposite has to be taken as well.

A history lesson that isn't taught in schools. (At least it
wasn't for me in both Public School and College)


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 03:55 [#02386421]
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I never claimed to be exploring into the families of the
victims, nor was i trying to reach them via seance, i was
referring to exploring and discussing more aspects of the
towers' destruction and elusive's arrogant comment about
people not being smart enough to understand the difference
between a missile and an airplane, or thermite and burning
jet engine-fuel.

All i want is further debate and not the same-old personal
attacks on a messageboard from people who barely know each
other. Why don't we try and work together and network
information to help each other become aware and knowledgable
of the truths surrounding global terrorism, in this case
9/11.

It's a shame that while terrorists are working together for
their common goals and working diligently for their plans to
be successful, we are sitting here bickering amongst
ourselves over who's smart and who's justified to
talk about certain things.

Let's get over it and actually do something worthwhile in
this thread.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 04:16 [#02386423]
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A lot of info to look over, though, I just want it to be
clear that I'm not about to join up with the anti-Israel
crowd, everyone's in bed with each other.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2010-07-09 04:37 [#02386425]
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I'm not trying to get anyone to join the "crowd."
Information is out there for people to make their own
opinions.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 20:24 [#02386467]
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it's the whole 'truth' attitude that im dismissing.

in the day of the internet when anyone can read an article
and instantly become a self proclaimed expert, it's quite
obvious when such is taking place when a young lad runs to
you screaming about truths to topics he probably didnt give
2 damns about moments earlier...instead, he should be asking
questions to real experts in such professions; to gain more
knowledge of how things work in the real world.

it reminds me of those young lads that made that video about
9/11 and all the theories (of which most of not all were
shot down) - about how they were arguing to RF/wireless
engineers (young kids with no engineering background) -
arguing to industry/field-leading engineers that there is no
way you could make a call from 30,000 ft on an airplane from
your cellphone - so it must have been staged.

these are the same kids that complain about fox news ... and
how it's so one-sided ... and then go right on and watch a
video that purposely portrays certain events in certain
order, leaves certain information out, and straight up leads
you to believe their bullshit by creative portrayal/editing
.... to the point where you get done watching the movie and
your mind/opinion has already been made up by the movie.
it's that hypocrisy that drives me to nutty extents.

all of these kids straight up accepted everything that was
in that original 9/11 truth video (can't remember the name)
... how many of you went out and dug up information on your
own to attempt to verify what they were saying was indeed
factual? not many from my experience. they took the ball
word-for-word from that movie and ran with it. how is that
any different than the types they mock (e.g. fox news
viewers - who eat up the lies they spew without verifying a
word of it)?

it's the same, in my opinion.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 20:27 [#02386468]
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you don't need to have a degree or be in a executive-level
position to be able to discuss such topics...but i do find
more of the young kids attempting to detail me specific
engineering level topics/failures than real professionals.

i always inquire as to what these brilliant minds are doing
with their lives if they are so intelligent on such a
plethora of engineering topics ... and they usually reply
unemployed or art student or some other bullshit job where
they never once applied themselves in the real world. but
it's easy to be an expert on the internet.

and why would it be hard? on the internet you can look at
things from a very high level and scrutinize...once you're
in the real world and working with such, you realize the
depth and complexity of the very topics you're trying to
discuss. dunning-kruger effect, essentially.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 20:28 [#02386469]
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"if you're so fucking brilliant and have it all figured out,
what are you doing working minimum wage at a coffee shop."



 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 20:41 [#02386470]
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again no one is claiming to be an expert, just sharing
information, i'm sorry you have such a problem and can't get
over that. So you're saying art students or coffee shop
employees or unemployed people have no right to be
questioning things outside of their profession or lack
thereof? That's such bullshit. That's WHY people have
questions and are seeking answers, because they're not
professionals. It seems like you're anchoring here,
essentially.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 21:00 [#02386472]
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I mean, so by your logic then, I should have to goto Harvard
to be able to feel completely justified when talking about
American Economics right? As opposed to having a
multi-faceted approach to life? I agree with you that people
shouldn't make the sharing of information a hobby, it should
be a valuable exchange between concerned individuals, not
people who don't care, but really who can draw that line?
Many people who goto Harvard for business or MIT etc. have
interests and drives that are unrelated to the information
they're studying. Let's not forget that information doesn't
come easily and going to a good college costs a lot of
money.

I guess the way I choose to see it, is that the internet can
be good or bad, if the individual is just trying to be a
punk and anti-authority nut, then of course biases will
always be attached in some way, but others just REALLY care
about the state of their surroundings and aren't satisifed
with being uninformed.


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-09 21:06 [#02386473]
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i call straw man bullshit.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 21:11 [#02386475]
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"again no one is claiming to be an expert, just sharing
information, i'm sorry you have such a problem and can't
get
over that."


no, they're not claiming to be an expert directly. they're
just unqualified individuals speaking on very advanced
subjects; dumbing things down to support conspiracy theories
that don't hold water when the real world is brought into
focus.

stop reading what you want to read. did you read my first
sentence of that above post? jeezous. get over yourself.

there's nothing wrong with discussing and so forth - but
it's not much of a discussion when people who think they are
suddenly capable of discussing engineering level topics at
force as if fact.

there is little "discussion" re: conspiracy theorists...shit
is binary for them...completely true or completely false. no
in between. and anytime real world professionals get
involved to say "no, that's bullshit" - they'll never accept
it.

basically - too many people with little/no real world
experience in the subjects they're discussing trying to tell
others how it is - instead of asking questions to qualified
professionals to come to a better understanding of said
topic and situational awareness of how that plays back into
the original conspiracy/hypothesis.

i just get pissy at all the 19yr olds who never stepped foot
into the real world telling me how it all went down - right
down to the thermite and civil engineering equations that
factor into the buildings coming down.

and to which i reply - basically, if you're so smart...how
come you're not doing anything with your life? (-this
statement isn't directed at you...it's the perspective of
the types ive met in real life who have it all figured out
and self-proclaimed armchair engineer - and yet cant seem to
sort their life out the least bit.

just the hypocrisy im pointing out, is all.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 21:15 [#02386476]
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when i read (for example), a 'the economist' article...at
least at the fin of the last sentence im left thinking about
what i just read; analyzing and reflecting and into a fairly
deep thought. i dont have the article pointing me in one
direction (even subconsciously) so when im done reading the
article ive already made up my mind on the subject (or
rather, the article/author made up my mind for me).

that's what i see. you have these types who hate on fox news
for skewing and doing exactly this.... then those very
people go on to watch conspiracy videos, that are outlined
to do the very same effect to the people watching
that....and by the end, they are ready to take to the
streets over the shit they just learned! yet they dont
realize they've just been had just as much as any fox news
viewer...mind already made up for them by misrepresented
facts and directed path-walking.

ha


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-09 21:18 [#02386477]
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pulseclock, anyone can discuss...

another example - these same coffee shop kids who think
they're so smart --- telling me how evil credit card
companies are, or how they know how the real world works
financially and all the games they play... and those very
kids are deep in debt (credit cards) and dont have a dime to
their name (live paycheck to paycheck and dont have any
fiscal responsibility/independence/savings/etc...spend their
money on stupid shit and then want to lecture me on
banks/financial system/etc.

that's the type hypocrisy im relating directly to the 9/11
topic. hopefully that explains it a bit better the point im
trying to get across.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 21:32 [#02386478]
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that's great.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-07-09 21:38 [#02386479]
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Well congs to Freqy for finally making a thread that people
responded to, even if he did have to rely on one of the
defining moments of the 21st Century to get there.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-07-09 21:52 [#02386480]
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If you were so fucking brilliant you'd be able to make your
point succinctly and not have to bang on and on and on, post
after post saying the same thing


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-09 21:57 [#02386481]
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Well the great thing about the internet is that you don't
have to be so personal about everything and you don't have
to disclose your financial information with people you talk
to in order to maintain your integrity, but I see your point
that reality is always more credible as opposed to some
unreferenced information gathered by a biased
group/individual.


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2010-07-10 15:40 [#02386516]
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The internet is 100% good. There's no bad to be found within
its nature. It may be perhaps the greatest achievement
mankind has thus far produced, and if a couple of pussies
and duckfuckers get their hands on it to do their gay shit
on it, more power to them. I'll simply not give those
people, or their dumbass sponsors, any ad revenues by not
going to the part of the toobs that they occupy.

Then again... the internet did cause that whole Ron Paul
thing. >={


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2010-07-10 15:42 [#02386517]
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By the way, I went to middle school a few blocks away from
the WTC towers on September 11th, and anybody who thinks
that it was caused by anybody other than a few crazy radical
Islamo-fascist nutjobs can go fuck themselves.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2010-07-10 16:17 [#02386524]
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no other skyscraper has ever collapsed from fire. the wtc
towers were designed to withstand multiple jet impacts.

unmistakable conclusion: the towers were brought down in
controlled demolition.

lemme tell ya, this job was SO inside, people often had
major difficulty finding the way out.



 

offline Greg Reason from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-07-10 17:19 [#02386525]
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The architects and draftsmen who designed the towers have
gone on the record stating that it was built to stay put
even in the instance of planes smacking into it.

Demolition specialists have been taken into the building and
have pointed to evidence of obvious demolition in keeping
with standard practice in the field.

More than thirty former military and government officials
have stood up over this and said that the US government is
lying.

None of this is conspiracy, it is all easy to find within a
few minutes of googling. None of this is saying "the Jews
did it" or "the government did it" but they are all saying
that the official story is a bunch of bullshit and we are
being lied to.


 

offline big from lsg on 2010-07-10 17:23 [#02386526]
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Chomsky on 911 Conspiracy Theories


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2010-07-10 17:41 [#02386527]
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"The architects and draftsmen who designed the towers have
gone on the record stating that it was built to stay put
even in the instance of planes smacking into it."

If this is your evidence that we're being lied to, then I'd
check your premises. It's much more likely that the
architects and draftsmen were incompetent. Do you understand
the implications of saying that the US government is
engaging in a conspiratorial lie on a grand scale - only to
be "found out" by a couple of bratty college kids with
iMacs?


 

offline big from lsg on 2010-07-10 18:13 [#02386531]
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"The architects and draftsmen who designed the towers have
gone on the record stating that it was built to stay put
even in the instance of planes smacking into it."

It was designed for that as well as for fire. It couldn't
stand the heat however of the thousands (tens of thousands?)
litres of burning kerosene.

"Demolition specialists have been taken into the building
and have pointed to evidence of obvious demolition in
keeping with standard practice in the field. "
It looks like a controlled demolition so it is one?



 

offline Greg Reason from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-07-10 18:16 [#02386532]
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"even if it were true, who cares?"

I would have expected better from someone as intelligent as
Chomsky


 

offline big from lsg on 2010-07-10 18:19 [#02386533]
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he also says it would have implications and he means to say
energy should be used more wisely


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-07-10 18:29 [#02386534]
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I think Chomsky means one should look at the broader picture
and why this might happen, I doubt he means "dhurr..
whatever"


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-10 18:48 [#02386535]
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will cooper


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-10 18:50 [#02386536]
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"no other skyscraper has ever collapsed from fire. the
wtc
towers were designed to withstand multiple jet impacts.
"


that's the shit im talking about.

lol.

the kinetic energy from the impact of an object with such
mass alone is enough to damage the structural integrity of
the building.

i think watching all the impact videos on youtube has made
some people believe/visualize in their head that the entire
impact much smaller/less forceful than it really was.

"no other skyscraper has ever collapsed from fire. the
wtc
towers were designed to withstand multiple jet impacts.
"


sounds like they're just covering their own ass. was it
tested and modeled? did the modeling technology even exist
at the time wtc was designed?

the mere fact of how little some people view the impact /
explosion is what really blows my mind. the videos don't
really do justice the sheer kinetic force of such an
impact.

"The architects and draftsmen who designed the towers
have
gone on the record stating that it was built to stay put
even in the instance of planes smacking into it. "


wow - what a vague term. "it can withstand planes smacking
into it"

there are so many more variables that are completely ignored
by such a statement it is mind boggling. way to dumb it
down.

next time im presenting design requirements, ill be sure to
make an honest attempt to be so vague of details.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-10 19:00 [#02386537]
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lol


 

offline Greg Reason from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-07-10 19:13 [#02386538]
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This thread is not worth it. I'm not feeding the trolls
anymore. Back to your regularly scheduled electronic
chatter.


 

offline freqy on 2010-07-10 19:20 [#02386539]
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"go to Washington monument, take a guided tour to the top
and wait there"
. lol :P


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:23 [#02386540]
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The date of the attack: 9/11: 9 + 1 + 1 = 11

Anagram for September eleven

TEN REV BE, ME SLEEP

Rev 10-1 Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from
heaven.
He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head;
his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery
pillars.

911 is the Number for Help in many countries - 9 + 1 + 1 =
11.

Greaterthings/news/911

Note: We received this information in an e-mail dated
9-5-2001, prior
to the World Trade Center event. It seems rather prophetic.
Under the
WTC are 7 floors which go into a deep pit.

Rev. 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel
of the
bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is
1Abaddon,
but in the Greek tongue hath his name 2Apollyon

We are living in the time of the Book of Revelation - Rev.
9:11

(This is another name for Satan and possibly his posterity.
Biblical scholars say this is the 'destroyer'.
Helena P. Blavatsky states that the 'destroyer' is the God
Shiva).

Mohammed's birth is celebrated on the 11th day of the 9th
month

September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 =
11.

After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of
the year.

119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11.

Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number
11.

The number of stories is 110 (2x) 110 - 110
Remember that the zero "0" is not a number, so we have
11:11

The number of Tower windows = 21,800 2+1+8+0+0 = 11

The third building #7 to fall had 47 stories = 4+7=11

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11

American Airlines number1-800-245-0999

1+8+0+0+2+4+5+0+9+9+9=47 = 11

State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union

New York City - 11 Letters

Afghanistan - 11 Letters

The Pentagon - 11 Letters

Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters
(convicted of orchestrating the bombing attack on the WTC in
1993.
He is a blind man.
He was a Muslim teacher in a mosque)



 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:23 [#02386541]
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If you annagram 'Osama bin Laden' you get.... "A blind Man O
sea"....
'Man o sea' is spanish for..."a man that is"
If you say it...'A Man o sea blind' it means... 'A man that
is blind'
If you put in "a man o sea blind" into a language
translator
it gives you back... ' to the man that is blind'
Since Osama bin Laden means 'A man that is blind'
you have 'the blind man leading the blind'

George W. Bush - 11 Letters

Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11

Flight 11 had 11 crew members

Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11

The Flight 11 call letters were AA11: A=1, A=1, AA=11.

Four of the hijackers on flight AA11 have the initials A. A.
for their names: AA=11.

The fifth AA11 hijacker was the pilot, Mohamed Atta, 11
letters, and AA in last name.

Flight AA11 had 92 people on board - 9 + 2 = 11.

Flight AA11 had 11 crew members - 2 pilots and 9 flight
attendants.

The target of Flight AA11 was in New York City -11 letters.

The State of New York was the 11th State added to the
Union.

Manhattan Island was discovered on Sept. 11, 1609 by Henry
Hudson -11 letters.

Trade Center is 11 letters, and Skyscrapers is 11 letters.

World Trade Center Towers is 22 letters - 2 x 11 =22.

The WTC Twin Towers - standing side by side, look like the
number 11.

The first WTC tower hit (North Tower) collapses at 10:28
A.M. -1+2+8=11.

The 1st Fire Unit to arrive to the WTC towers was FDNY Unit
1. Unit 1 lost 11 firemen.

The WTC towers collapsed to a height of 11 stories.


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:24 [#02386542]
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After 99 days of burning, NYC declares the WTC fires are
extinguished - 9 x 11 = 99.

The World Trade Center fires burn continuously for 99 days,
between September 11, 2001 and

December 19, 2001. The World Trade Center fire is the
longest burning commercial fire in U.S. history.

On September 7, 2002, NYC Medical Examiners announced the
revised official

death toll from the World Trade Center attacks was 2,801 -
(2+8+0+1 = 11).

On the morning of September 11, 2002 the names of 2,801
victims were read at a Ground Zero

Ceremony. It took 2 ½ hours to read all the names.

According to the FBI, earlier terrorists originally planned
to hijack 11 planes.

Thirty days after the attack, the FBI releases a Most Wanted
Terrorist List with 22 names.

Mohammed, the prophet of the Muslim faith, died in 632 A.D.
- 6+3+2=11.

The Taliban's Manual of Afghan Jihad (Holy War) is 11
volumes.

119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran - 1 + 1 + 9 = 11.

The League of Arab States is comprised of 22 Arab nations -
2 x 11 = 22.

The suspected base of the terrorists is Afghanistan - 11
Letters.

Osama bin Laden's birthplace is Saudi Arabia - 11 letters.

Ramzi Yousef - convicted of orchestrating the 1993 WTC
attack - 11 Letters.

The Prime Minister of Israel - Ariel Sharon - 11 Letters.

Deputy PM, & Minister of Foreign Affairs for Israel - Shimon
Peres - 11 Letters.

On Friday 9-13-2001, President George W. Bush went to the
WTC to talk with and thank the Firefighters, rescuers, and
police officers who have given their time and hearts
tirelessly 24 hours a day since the horrible tragedy.
President Bush stood on top of a pile of rubble with a
firefighter whose helmet was numbered 164.
1+6+4 = 11

The train which was stopped and two suspected terrorist
arrested near San Antonio, Texas was #121 = 11 x 11

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11 by
American Airlines or AA - A=1st letter in alphabet so we
have again 11:11


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:24 [#02386544]
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The train which was stopped and two suspected terrorist
arrested near San Antonio, Texas was #121 = 11 x 11

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11 by
American Airlines or AA - A=1st letter in alphabet so we
have again 11:11

The house where the terrorist are believed to have lived had
# 10001
(don't count the zeros)

Flight 11, 93, 175, 77 -

If these numbers are broken down, 11 actually remains the
same in numerology,
93 becomes 12, 175 becomes 13 and 77 becomes 14. 11 - 12 -
13 - 14
Broken down again and you have 2 - 3 = 4 - 5.
Add them all up and break them all down!

11 + 93 + 175 + 77 = 356 = 14 = 5

11 + 12 + 13 + 14 = 50 = 5

2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 14 = 5

Twin Towers =11 + Flight 11 + September, 11th = 33

The number "33" is linked to Freemasonry.

"The Symbolism and Spiritual Significance
of the Number Eleven"


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:25 [#02386545]
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The two flight numbers of the planes which hit the twin
towers were 11 and 175

11 + 175 = 186 divided by 2 = 93 (The number of Aleister
Crowley's Thelema)

The Twin Towers (Pillars)

The flight number of the plane which crashed in
Pennsylvania, possibly intended to hit the White House = 93
(The number of Aleister Crowley's Thelema)

Ninety-three [93] is an extremely important number in
Thelema, it is in fact the numeration of Thelema [Theta,
Epsilon, Lambda, Eta, Mu, Alpha], Will, referring to one's
purpose for existing, as well as Agape [Alpha, Gamma, Alpha,
Pi, Eta], Love, in part, the means of doing one's Will.

The 93 Current of Thelema is shown to be synonymous with the
Lightning Flash of the Qabalistic Tree of Life.

Federalist Paper 93 is about the State of the Union under a
Failed Constitution

The flight number of the plane which hit The Pentagon = 77

The Pentagon is a 5 pointed Star

Irridium, which is twice as heavy as lead has atomic number
77


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:25 [#02386546]
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The iridium, Ir, atomic number 77, is a white metal which
the name is a derivative of the Greek word "iris" meaning"
rainbow". It is under the sign of the rainbow that God
concludes his Alliance between him and the humanity, and the
Christian remains in this Alliance if he forgives 77 times
the faults of his brothers (Mt 18,22).

According to Jacob Boehme, 77 is the total number of the
divine revelation thanks to the Word formed. Because
starting from only one Verb speaking and a unique vital
spirit, it exit 77 languages of which "five belong to the
Spirit of God who speaks by his children when and as He
wants; but the sixty-twelve others belong to the persons and
to the human particularities by which speaking the own
intelligence of the man, telling at the same time lies and
truths. Also the sixty-twelve languages, that is to say
Babel, must pass by the court of God and the pure has to be
separated from the impure and to undergo the test of the
fire".

World Trade Center = 16 = 1+6=7

Jesus asks to forgive 70 times 7 times

The 77 generations of Adam to the Christ according to the
evangelist of Luke. (Lk 3,23-38)

Cain is avenged 7 times but Lamek, 77 times. (Gn 4,24)

Halley's comet, turning around the sun, reappears
approximately every 77 years.

The numerical value of the Hebrew word BGhE, meaning to
pray, gives 77.

Federalist Paper 77 is about the powers of the President


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:26 [#02386547]
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The Height of the Towers: 1368 feet equals 9...
1+3+6+8=18=9

414 meters... 4+1+4=9

A buried firetruck brought out of the wreckage was number 18
- 1+8=9

The number on the sleeve of a trader on the stock market
floor at opening was 477
4+7+7=18 = 1+8 = 9

The address where the builder of the Twin Towers has his
offices is 666 5th Ave.

Reverse numbers can be just as important and symbolic as
numbers which go forward.
A movie playing now in theatres is U-571, the story of a
submarine in WWII.
Their job was to decode messages during war.
571 - reversed is - 175 - one of the planes which just hit
the World Trade Center


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:26 [#02386548]
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A ABANDON SMILE A BALSAM DONE IN A BANAL DEMON IS A
SANDMAN BE OIL
A ANIMAL BED SON A SALAMI NOB END A ALMA BED SIN ON A
ANAL BEND I'M SO
A ANAL BIND ME SO A ANAL SIB DEMON I'M A ANAL END SOB I'M
ON A NASAL BED
A MANA BLED IS ON A MANA BEND SOIL A MANA IDLE SNOB ANNA
IS A BOLD ME
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MALE ON BAD SIN
BAD SIN ON A MALE A BANED ON ISLAM A BAD NEON ISLAM A SO
BAD MAN NAIL
I AM A BAD NELSON AM A BAD NILE SON IS A LONE BAD MAN A
BAD MANN LIE SO
A BAD MAN LIES ON BAND A ISLAM ONE MAD ON A LESBIAN DAM
ON A LESBIAN
ON A ABLE MAD SIN I ABLE DAMN A SON A ABLE MAN DO SIN I A
SAD NOBLEMAN
A LEBANON MIDAS AS I DAM LEBANON I'M A LEBANON SAD A
DENIAL MAN SOB
A MAD ALIEN SNOB BE ON A MAD SLAIN A MAD INANE SLOB A
INSANE AM BOLD
ISLAMABAD NONE DEMO IN NASA LAB LAMB DIE ON NASA BAD NAME
AS LION


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2010-07-10 19:30 [#02386549]
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good point Guybrush, i'm done with this stuff.


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-10 19:39 [#02386550]
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i always like how numerologists are so fucking smart, yet
can't seem to develop their argument beyond the basic
mathmatical functions


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2010-07-10 23:10 [#02386558]
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two hundred sixteen


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-07-11 00:46 [#02386560]
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chomsky video is great


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2010-07-11 13:58 [#02386575]
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I think Chomsky pretty much wraps it up. Almost says what I
said above word for word. Why? Because it's basic common
sense. As Elusive says, you don't need to look into this
event at any deeper level, a) because you haven't the
technical expertise to attempt to do so. b) you're
discussing it amongst the ignorant.

But, you can take an overall view, based on common sense,
and within 5 seconds realise you don't need to look any
deeper.

Besides, conspiracy theorists often have their own agenda,
like making money out of this thing, and/or using it as
propaganda against the American government.

I took a look at just one site -
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ - and saw all the DVDs,
CDs, postcards and t-shirts they're selling. They're not
conspiracy theorists, they're running a business.


 

offline big from lsg on 2010-07-11 14:21 [#02386577]
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it's because they're not trying to show off their smarts or
math skills but are saying there's obvious
connections.

same goes with the conspiracists. it's easy saying they're
dumb, and make yourself look smart. but in fact conspiracies
could be true a lot of the times. they're not because
of what chomsky says


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-11 14:45 [#02386579]
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nah, its bullshit because if you look for patterns, you find
them.


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-07-11 14:46 [#02386580]
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100


 


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