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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-05-31 22:05 [#02382083]
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Thats a really good point Guybrush. Even though I hate apple
products they do have a tenancy to raise the bar amongst
their competition. Simply because they seem to be able to
recognize/create consumer trends before everyone else.

Its too bad most of the apple fanatics are pretentious
idiots, it makes me embarrassed to walk around with an iPod.
I still can't find anyone who will give me a good argument
as to why its a good idea to pay twice as much for something
that does fundamentally the same thing in a slower manner,
aside from the fact that some people want to use specific
software.


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2010-06-01 01:37 [#02382122]
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JivverDicker sounds like a simple Apple fag.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2010-06-01 01:55 [#02382124]
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You are a boring try-hard. 8 )


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-02 03:10 [#02382251]
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just now:

W. Mossberg: Is the tablet going to replace the
laptop? Tell me what you think about where it's going?

S. Jobs: You know... (long pause). I'm trying to
think of a good analogy. When we were an agrarian nation,
all cars were trucks. But as people moved more towards urban
centers, people started to get into cars. I think PCs are
going to be like trucks. Less people will need them. And
this is going to make some people uneasy.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2010-06-02 03:28 [#02382252]
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Have you played with one Terrence?


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-02 03:58 [#02382258]
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yes and the 2 minutes were enough to convince me that it
makes sense.
i'm not exactly sure if i'd need an iPad for anything
else besides fun/leisure though. Learning to code for it,
sure would be an incentive..

Would i do all the web-browsing and emailing and pdf-reading
on it, and use the laptop only for work? Would i
still want to do any work then at all? it's weird.

if i had the cash i'd probably impulse-buy one instantly
lol.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2010-06-02 04:15 [#02382259]
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I'm lucky at the moment and have some spare cash so I got
one for me and one for my kids. They will be four years old
in a week and they can choose Spiderman, Alphabet games,
colour stuff and watch Shrek or sing long with songs we've
made up all by themselves. There are loads of OSC things to
play with for me that are great! I'll post some links
tomorrow.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-03 09:44 [#02382345]
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Please be my dad.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-03 09:54 [#02382347]
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Not a good analogy. You don't need to plug your car into a
truck every second day just to keep it running.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-03 14:04 [#02382359]
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yeah you have a point there, this is a downer. Apple is
indeed kinda slow with this whole cloud business, and iTunes
surely sucks massive cock.
See this: LAZY_TITLE

What are the reasons you actually need to hook it up with
iTunes, other than syncing music?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-04 03:21 [#02382396]
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Not talking about itunes per se, but the standard method for
recharging an iPod is to plug it into a usb port on the
computer. I haven't unboxed and iPad, but I am sure the
default connector is the same.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-04 11:23 [#02382420]
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an additional charger like this is included: LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-04 15:44 [#02382440]
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Well played sir.

Still, you have to plug your car into the truck to add new
music movies or applications.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-04 17:02 [#02382460]
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yes. Downer. I really hope they fix this soon, iTunes is by
far the crappiest software they have ever designed, and i
don't think the need for plugging devices into it is a
hardware issue.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-06-04 19:51 [#02382512]
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true. someone already developed an app where you can sync
without directly connecting your iphone/pod/pad to a
computer. apple didn't approve it though, so you can only
install it on a jail-broke ithing
:/


 

offline Gonzola from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2010-06-05 01:38 [#02382578]
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Not a mac user but I think it could be the start of
something huge. Maybe not this version and maybe not even
apple as manufacturer, but the whole concept is great for
creative stuff. When these things get more common and good,
intuitive software to go with it, it could revolutionize
electronic music making. I've always wanted a really
physical and graphical interface to make music with and this
is the closest thing to that i've seen so far.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2010-06-05 02:32 [#02382580]
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These are some good ones to play around with -

TouchOSC you choose how many faders, rotarys,
switches, X/Y things you want and can easily flick between
pages of layouts

iDrum You can load your own sounds in this MPC type
sequencer and transfer it all back into your computer
easily

Jasuto A clone of the ReacTable but better

iSequence a sequence that keeps it simple

8Bitone Chiptune type sequencer

beatmaker Another take on the MPC way of sequencing

iElectribe an Electribe for £5.99


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-05 08:04 [#02382587]
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Yeah, tablet computing is a fantastic new cutting edge
technology that isn't 20 years old.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-05 08:11 [#02382588]
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propellerhead also have released a port of reason for the
ip*d.


 

offline PS on 2010-06-05 10:20 [#02382591]
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In the future, you might have something even better than an
iPad that will fold up and fit in your pocket. You can do
whatever you want on it, and you won't be able to live
without it. It will be very addictive and destroy countless
lives. I'd never lead my kids down that path..


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2010-06-05 11:12 [#02382598]
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oh knock it off, guys


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-06 15:58 [#02382737]
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I'm going to get one at some point. I am constantly reading
.pdf files for my work and get sick of them cluttering my
screen when I write my reports.

I wouldn't call myself a fan boy at all. I just find Mac OS
easier to work with than Windows, perhaps due to an
extra/missing chromosome or summat.

However, it will be difficult to see the screen on it due
the all the smears I'll make with my grotty little cock.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-06 21:04 [#02382754]
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saw one today and really liked it, when it is capable of
being run on its own without needing a computer to connect
it to i'll get one and sell my regular computer and
monitor.

It 'almost' does everything I want a home computer to do...
lack of flash is a bit of a bother for internet browsing
though.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-06 21:07 [#02382757]
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"Maybe not this version and maybe not even apple as
manufacturer"

i very much doubt that, look at the ipod and iphone... once
apple develops something like this very rarely does anyone
else get even close to them let a lone catch up or
overtake...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-07 21:55 [#02382904]
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I finally got to try one out in the store yesterday. Spent
about 20 minutes with it. All I have to say is "meh". Kind
of indifferent. Its like a big iPod touch. I can see why
people might want it as an e-reader, but its certainly not
the groundbreaking device everyone is hyping up.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-07 22:02 [#02382908]
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New iphone looks nice with the nice screen and the nice 720p
video recording and being portable and whatnot.

Can't justify this ipad thing though. its funny money to me,
no matter how nice an e-reader it is (which the new iphone
will do just as well if the super nice screen hype is to be
believed).


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-06-08 21:02 [#02383110]
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i feel sorry for the people who jumped on the ipad-wagon too
early. next version will have the retina display that's now
going to the new iphone. (plus cheaper, faster, etc)
o well. at least the anti-apple kids have something to
complain about.


 

offline kaara on 2010-06-08 21:05 [#02383113]
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it's a poor man's jazzmutant device


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-10 02:36 [#02383302]
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today i've seen an iPad. the shit with the fishes and the
dragon-flies, i do this at the park on sundays. none the
less it was a fucking iPad reunion, and i was one of them.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-12 14:23 [#02383703]
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look what i found on watmm


Attached picture

 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-12 14:34 [#02383705]
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i've seen worse,


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-06-12 14:38 [#02383706]
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he looked a lot healthier back then


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-13 17:30 [#02383824]
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Have any of you tried it as a controller for Logic or any
other music making software? I imagine it could be killer
for that kind of thing.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2010-06-13 23:21 [#02383860]
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I'd be more interested in coding for this platform. The
moments it'll be in my hands will be when i'm on the toilet
though i think... When exactly will you use it?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-13 23:29 [#02383863]
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i've only seen people showing it to other people for the
moment


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-06-14 00:12 [#02383868]
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indeed. it's a great way to hook up with random chicks.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-14 00:15 [#02383869]
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i'd have to agree, random chicks are much better

what does random mean by the way


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-14 01:24 [#02383875]
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Randomness is a concept of non-order or non-coherence in a
sequence of symbols or steps, such that there is no
intelligible pattern or combination. Randomness has somewhat
disparate meanings as used in several different fields. It
also has common meanings which may have loose connections
with some of those more definite meanings.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines "random" thus:
Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a
particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without
method or conscious choice; haphazard.

Also, in statistics, as:
Governed by or involving equal chances for each of the
actual or hypothetical members of a population; (also)
produced or obtained by such a process, and therefore
unpredictable in detail.

Closely connected, therefore, with the concepts of chance,
probability, and information entropy, randomness implies a
lack of predictability. More formally, in statistics, a
random process is a repeating process whose outcomes follow
no describable deterministic pattern, but follow a
probability distribution, such that the relative probability
of the occurrence of each outcome can be approximated or
calculated. For example, the rolling of a fair six-sided die
in neutral conditions may be said to produce random results,
because one cannot compute, before a roll, what number will
show up. However, the probability of rolling any one of the
six rollable numbers can be calculated, assuming that each
is equally likely.



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-14 01:36 [#02383877]
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if you hang out with a random chick, and walk with that
chick the same tiles, of the same street, and talk about the
same things you talked with another chick, what is there to
predict


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-14 06:43 [#02383882]
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Well, with you, she would probably get bored and walk off,
however there is a possibility that she will stay
interested. They are kind of unpredictable like that.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-06-14 08:09 [#02383886]
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mr taxi, for once i completely agree with you. well done.


 

offline PS on 2010-06-14 08:44 [#02383887]
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m taxd, for oncde i campaletly agre witsh yoc. weladl donse.


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-14 09:01 [#02383889]
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HAHAHA!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-14 10:42 [#02383900]
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lol


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2010-06-14 10:43 [#02383901]
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you still make me think about my job


 

offline Guybrush from the white room on 2010-06-19 19:15 [#02384817]
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so i walked past the apple store today, and saw they had
many ipads on display, so i thought i would nip in and try
one. I'm not a fan of apple, but have secretly been coveting
this device, i certainly don't' need one, but it does look
rather nice.

I have to say, i was rather underwhelmed by the experience.
the games were lousy, the virtual keyboard useless and the
speaker was feeble. I'm guessing the average casual apple
user can't manage much more than pigeon-pecking a normal
keyboard though, so this probably isn't a real concern for
apple.

So what is this for? would i want to watch a film on it?
probably not, as it requires too much forethought. Would i
use it to listen to music on? probably not, as the storage
is tiny. Would i use it to look at pictures? most likely,
this element really works well, and just feels well suited
to the device.

The multi touch is rather lovely, but hardly worthy of the
price tag alone. It does feel very intuitive for looking at
maps, and websites look nice, but i didn't bother trying any
that didn't support flash. So that all this brings to the
table. a big touch screen. There is no real technological
innovation here, but perhaps there doesn't need to be.
Perhaps the real innovation is selling mutton dressed as
lamb. Apple are on to a winner here, and people who think
its a bit crap (e.g. me) most likely aren't apple's
demographic anyway.

Still, its early days, and early adopters always get a
bum-deal retrospectively. I guess this really is trying to
tap into the casual market

Overall score: 40%



 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-20 13:45 [#02384891]
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Is it fun reading books on the iPad?
That's really the only question for me, because I can
readily see it's good for movies and photos and web and
email.
But reading for longer periods of time on normal screens is
just horrible. I prefer paper.


 


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