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Glitch isnt so bad if it's used as a means to your end. I use it to reverse sounds, because ableton (at least my version) doesn't have a built in reverse function. Of course, you can set it to randomize and basically make a shitty track for you, but that sounds like crap anyway. It's good to stretch out a note here and there with it, as long as you remain in control of the sound. |
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i still like abstract sounds. synthesized ones are best. it doesnt have to be glitch it can just be some interesting sound.. im trying to make these sounds for a new album now, with stuff like xenoplasm.. but im still not quite there yet. |
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hopefully you picked up my sarcasm in my little blog essay there. i came into this out of industrial and experimental music, not techno. i'm all about heavily manipulating sound. i also get why people are burnt out with some of it tho, so just trying to comment on where i feel the scene is, not just based on this thread but more over all. fah not singling you out either i like acid and like your music, again kind of a bigger picture sort of thing is all. |
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"a&d revolution" nothing against you man, but can you explain this? I struggle with what exactly is new in using both analog and digital equipment. |
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i've only heard americans call this music glitch music. was it in rolling stone or something? |
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Most of us were talking about the plugin "Db_Glitch", not glitch as some sort of genre concept. But who cares what anyone calls anything anymore. There are so many stupid names out there especially in electronic music. What fuckwit thought up "dub step?" that's retarded. So's "IDM" and "happy hardcore," whatever that's supposed to be. Drum and Bass is an alright and straightforward genre name, but most of that genre's musical "output" is cookie cutter crap, like 99% of music today is anyway. |
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"Most of us were talking about the plugin "Db_Glitch" " yeah i got that. I usually turn a blind eye because the genre debate is dull as fuck but there's something about a&d that's especially gets on my goat. it's the most feebleminded, half baked effort of a collective term- as if another was even required. highest order bullshit. |
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lupus: there is nothing new about it. like i said i was kinda being sarcastic, satiric or what have you. also i realize people were talking about that plug in, but i was getting at this idea that there is idea of a correlation between plugins, glitch music and what some perceive as being wrong with electronic music. there were as many idm sucks type comments and i think its part of a larger perception. i guess i should be less subtle and more direct about how i try to say it. |
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nah s'cool. sarcasm and tone are the 1st things to get lost in net forums. there should be a special font =] it's true that some tools make some signature sounds of electronic music very easy to achieve- be it 'glitch' programs or retriggers on a machinedrum, but at the end of the day it wasn't really hard work to sequence in 64ths/128ths anyway. the bottom line for me tho is- regardless of the proliferation tools and the more direct the technology, it doesn't really affect the fact that relative to any time period, stand out good music mostly comes about from original ideas, time, effort and hard work. if you take the easy route like so many then it seems inevitable that you'll end up cliched or bland. but i've not heard this jega album so i'll try and get this back on topic. |
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It's ok if you hated on me for making bland "acid" like everyone else, i wouldn't care since i love it, and neither would i care that you've just put all acid under one boring topic, people work like that.. what gets me on is "a&d 'revolution'" and my name in one post.. I have not chosen to be part of this "revolution" someone put me there. |
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bottom line is, music discussion is pointless, do your thing - fuck everyone else, goodbye and thanks! |
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if everyone listened to everyone elses opinion on music, nobody would have their own. we'd all be too scared of liking the wrong music. thats not how it should be. everyones opinion is equal just like all music is subjective and in that sense equal. HOOORAYY |
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can't you listen to someone else's opinion without adopting it? |
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yea, i wasn't hating on you tho. i just said you name because i figured it probably looked like i was since you made some posts earlier and you make acid. i don't even hate acid tho, i do like your music, and i get some of the ideology behind the a&d thing. it's more complicated than that. i just feel like innovation is down because everyone is burnt out on the scene and retreating back into their niches. this will come up on here again tho, i'm sure of it. there were points that kind of related back to jega, but i think they got lost, so let's bookmark it and let this topic get back on topic. |
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"retreating back into their niches." sounds like the best thing for innovation. hermits do all the best things. maybe they can all socialize when the big a&e (acoustic and electrical) trend comes along. probably best not tho. |
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What you mean? I like bumping the term "musical opinions" around like a very very very bouncy football, but do note that i nudge the ball with a pelvic thrust, not my foot. Alas, i'm not always that serious about it. I respect other opinions, and in respect of that i usually explain my own. It's not respecting MY opinions that gets me going all the time, which always keeps bringing the discussion back on, and mostly, into a fight. It are mostly caused by fanboys, which is a fact, they feel they should protect the ones they love, not knowing they don't even know you personally. I'm eating now though, bon apetit! |
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it's not eating. it's f&d. get with the kids man. |
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"and i get some of the ideology behind the a&d thing" could you please elaborate on it, then? "it's not eating. it's f&d. get with the kids man." this had me laughing good. :) |
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im sorry, that was mainly supposed to be a followup to glasse. |
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delivering the lulz while stuffing my piehole |
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btw, retape doesn't like this album. he thinks it's boring as hell. |
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truth ^ |
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truth ^ |
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Can you ask him why he's referring to himself in the third person? |
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I just found the new Jega on a blog. |
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Forgot all about Jega. I have Variance but never really listened to it, UNTIL NOW! Dreams is good, a lot of it is pretty dull though. Sorry Jega :-( |
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what is "A&D" / Analog and Digital?? |
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jega is 5/5 older radio show worth a listen |
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geometry sucked the only thing good he ever did were his skam tracks |
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a&d a failed attempt to replace idm as the name that everyone eays to describe aphex twin style of electronic music |
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Still need to buy Variance, will probably get around to that soon. I haven't heard the whole album, but I remember watching that kcrw live performance and something played on Radio 1 (I think?) and it was quite good. My favorite would have to be Spectrum though + some of the SKAM output. Both Jega and µ-Ziq I think are sounding their best when the tracks are more rooted in Techno, rather than going down the mental breakbeat route or indulgent (maybe?) "IDM" sounds. That's not to say their Jungle stuff isn't good, some of it is. Anyway, here's some good Techno-esque stuff he's done: |
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