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They never hid the fact that they want more information about its users, but they say it's for targeting services and search. Like the more they know the more they can tailor their services to fit the users specific agenda. A part of me wants to believe they are doing this in the users best interest, but sure you could always get paranoid about it. I just don't understand why they would want a profile on say, me. I'm not interesting in the least, and I have nothing specific about me to warrant anyone peeking. |
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It would be foolish to trust Google. They're following the same pattern as every other gigantic and successful tech company. They start by making some magnificent, revolutionary product, like IBM's hardware platform, Microsoft's MSDOS, or Google's search engine. Then, they expand on that by offering other products in competing industries, by applying their same philosophies. But then they go public, grow into an enormous corporation, and begin doing business as a corporate entity, mostly concerned with appeasing their shareholders. Now, I totally respect and and agree with that form of business. Everybody should be allowed to make as much money as humanly possible without breaking the law. But: the consumers need to not be a bunch dumb cunts and complain every time these companies go to the so-called "dark side." IBM has since outsourced its innovative capacities to other affiliated companies. Microsoft is concerned only with sales numbers, and will do anything legally possible to maintain their market share, even at the cost of making shitty products. Google will stop at nothing to exploit their algorithms' abilities to provide ad revenue, and continue to attempt complete domination through various web services. Google is indeed "evil." They offer their services for free because they literally watch everything you do. Their web spiders crawl pretty much every web site on the planet; they read your emails; they scan your searches and match them with your IP address. They have no respect for privacy - you sign it all away when you agree to use their services! But who could legitimately expect otherwise? This information has been in the news since day one. There have been countless debates over these issues - the consumer should be aware! Who in the world would be so stupid to think that such powerful, perfected services could be offered for free without a catch? |
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To be honest, I disagree with your conclusion. It's true that they scan your emails, websites and even match them with your IP address, but so what? The majority of those emails and websites are of no interest to anyone at google. It provides nothing to them that could lead to any profit or advantage. They use that information to provide targeted advertisement, and in the case of websites to provide good search results. Can you list some other things they could use all this information for? Especially the private information they have? Cause I can't .. What good is it for? That's why they are NOT evil. They are earning money in an honest way - by providing a free service. They store your private info (that YOU are letting them have) and so far they have only showed that they value your privacy. I read all over the place about how privacy is so important, and yeah it is. But with things like facebook, google, it's a matter of trust. Maybe a google engineer has looked up his friends email account once, maybe a facebook engineer checked out a girls pictures without being on her friends list.. But those are isolated cases and are not representative og Google or Facebook as a whole. Their agenda isn't to create profiles for evil, it's to provide the service they offer. |
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I think it is a good idea. They are basically creating their own linux distro for netbooks and kiosks. Just a really basic kernel and a really basic WM running chrome and coming with a nice set of web apps. |
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As I've said, I certainly condone what Google does. It's their method of making business, it's brilliant, and if people have a problem, they can choose not to use their services. I choose not to, and still respect their methods of making money. I don't foresee anything profitable coming out of Google's email and search scanning that hasn't been done already, however that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Nobody 10 years ago could have dreamed of a world where virtually unlimited, powerful email accounts would be offered to the end user, being funded by powerful search spiders and tracking software sending real-time user information to their algorithmically-controlled web-ads service. That's why the people who come up with these ideas are so brilliantly paid; they think of the things we don't. But your conclusion is wrong - they do not engage in these actions to "provide the service they offer." They do it to make money, and to appease the shareholders - like any good corporation should do. Google has had a few cases where, as a corporation, they haven't wisely handled the responsibilities of their service. One good example was about a year ago when Google handed over private data about a pro-freedom Chinese protester to the Chinese government, even when they had no legal obligation to do so. I would say that oversteps the bounds of being moral or logical in terms of both practical business strategies and decency. |
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OK I'll meet you halfway.. If you see interviews with Eric Schmidt and the founders of google, you see that they aren't just slaverobots working to make money, they also have a vision. I think most people at Google actually do want to work with what they do. Of course they also do it for the money, but I believe even as a corporation, Google also has a vision, and you need to be in their state of mind to even get a job there. I have no idea about the specifics of that case you spoke about, so I can't really comment. |
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yes they seem to be investing a lot of their revenue in actually innovating the webs. if you have 1hr 20min spare time, the recent first public presentation of Wave. Wave is an open protocol rather than a collection of apps, it's meant to be the successor to e-mail, and it could very well be. They're doing this open source and it will work non-centralised, much like you can set up your own mail server, you'll be able to run a wave server in competition to others. This one has a lot of potential imo! So in order to do things like that, they have to be kinda drastic in terms of privacy et al, but i'm certain the clever minds behind this don't do it to gain control of humanity, and also making money from it has to be secondary. Google has a rather unbeatable system of making money that can be glued into just about anything on the web anyway. This is about enhancing digital communication. |
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I need faster more intuitive methods of posting "lol" and linking to YouTube videos. |
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hey cwnt what you said was very interesting regarding governments owning our proccessing power. could it be one day when tremendousness amounts of cpu power are needed to run VR , the public might be forced to rent proccessing power from multinationals to engaged in these environments., so at the same time might encourage us to use there computer farms for our storage of personal data too? i shall read the rest of this thread tonight . |
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