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oh please, stop with the clichés you simpleton |
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everyone acts like they see a god walking around, as if it's proof to say science has less meaning. Shut the Fuck up, settle down, you got 80 years on this earth at the most, let's all try to get over the bullshit that people have brought on the world since the caveman era. |
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hoo boy, what made you so bitter? anyway, thanks for the wind up. |
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nah |
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agree |
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You really have no clue what you are talking about. Even a materialist naturalist ideology has to rely on metaphysics, or else science would not be possible. |
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The tldr wikipedia article for metaphysics made it seem like a pointless umbrella term for a whole bunch of crap when that crap can exist individually without the umbrella. I googled 'metaphysics physics' and got this page: which distinguishes them like this: -Physics is the study, understanding, and knowledge of the physical, measurable universe around us. bla bla bla -Metaphysics, in it's academic sense, is the study of theology and ontology. Theology is the study of the western God as well as religion and spirituality. Ontology is the study of beingness and the nature of reality. Metaphysics is also more commonly referred to as the study of mythology and the occult - which some also classify as theology (it's a matter of spiritual or religious perspective). bla bla bla .. right.. so the core of 'metaphysics' seems to be brain viruses like belief in an imaginary sky friend, 'spirituality' and 'beingness' which are both brain phenomena. And the nature of reality, which science already studies. All that stuff is just science and normal 'physics' with no need for a term 'metaphysics' that I can see. I think they mentioned physics studies how and metaphysics studies why or something. I assume physics/science could answer why's as well if we had more information. I kinda doubt 'metaphysics' makes much progress. What do they do, just ponder stuff that science hasn't solved yet like what's beyond the universe? HOW does life exist? genes, dna, replicators, natural selection WHY does life exist? genes, dna, replicators, natural selection aren't both basically the same question in this case? |
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Please dude, educate yourself. Maybe read a book on basic philosophy. Mario Bunge would be an author i would recommand, especially his 'Philosophy of Science'. |
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recommand is a clever person word |
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Whats your opinion on metaphysics dude? |
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there really should be a lots more threads about it. the pursuit of knowledge and all that. guide the way |
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dude |
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-Metaphysics, in it's academic sense, is the study of theology and ontology. Theology is the study of the western God as well as religion and spirituality. Ontology is the study of beingness and the nature of reality. Metaphysics is also more commonly referred to as the study of mythology and the occult - which some also classify as theology (it's a matter of spiritual or religious perspective). What about an idea, or a concept? I think metaphysics is anything that is not physical in nature, not just God and ghosts. I guess if we can't prove that consciousness is physical then we can't very well say an idea or a concept is either. What I am typing here is physical, as in the actual letters displayed on your screen. My fingers are physical, your eyes are physical, and the synapses going off as you read it are physical. My case, argument, whatever, is however not physical. It is meta (beyond) physical. It is a concept and has no tangible existence outside of human interaction. amirite? |
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I'll just assume Mario Bunge books are full of long winded circular pseudo crap that doesn't lead anywhere and not infect my brain with them. ideas/concepts/arguments are most likely physical in neurons/information/brains, but we don't know exactly how the brain works yet. |
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i hate humans. |
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w M w talkin sense in this thread |
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I wouldn't call it an absolute fail. It has 67 entries as of this post. |
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he's a troll though, bringing up a subject hoping that fights will ensue over it |
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Yeah! Go home monoid. You can't play us no more. |
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Yeah. He's a troll. A troll that cares. |
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The phenomenal world does not exist; it is a hypostasis of information processed by one mind or Deity |
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[i]"Bunge began his studies at the National University of La Plata, graduating with a Ph.D. in physico-mathematical sciences in 1952. He was professor of theoretical physics and philosophy. Mario Bunge has been distinguished with fifteen honorary doctorates and four honorary professorships. Bunge is a very prolific intellectual, having written more than 400 papers and 80 books"[/i] Wow, you sure showed him..... |
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I still know almost nothing about him, but I could spend my time reading things that interest me instead of taking your metaphysics recommendation. Besides I don't really have much respect for educational institutions, based on my own experience going through them (though a few like MIT are apparently good). One hacker said high school is basically a holding pen to keep adolescents from interfering in society. Also you don't choose your own teachers or even subjects, even in college. You have to learn from dr retarded about some subject you don't give a shit about because its required to get the 'distinguished' degree, like this one fucktard who tortured us with this ass wanky dense shit text about gay poetry in fagville or something. And the art class I took just shows how watered down and retarded the educational system can make something interesting appear to be. If you're self taught you can read whatever books you want; choose your own teachers, and learn from the medium of writing where thoughts are carefully constructed, and not be locked into rigid time chunks of classes, mostly full of wasted time. But you don't get a 'degree' which is just a mechanism to say who can have which job because they paid the highest price by undergoing the most brain washing. 80 books sounds like quantity over quality to me. |
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Well, if you are not intrested in Metaphysics than there is no reason to be in this thread. |
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Yes there is. |
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i disagree with every post in this thread. even my own. |
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I heard this guy is also into metaphysic |
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XLT has been pretty good lately ! |
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